Foregrip or no foregrip..

[breakingtime91]

So, I have been messing around with having one on on my carbine again (16inch bcm middy with bcm kmr). Can't decide which I like better, anyone got a reason to use when or not to use one?

[Peally]

I use a shorty as a grip placement reference and a handy thing to use for bracing against barricades, but not much else. They're just handy little stubs IMO, no reason yet for me to get rid of it.

[breakingtime91]

I use a shorty as a grip placement reference and a handy thing to use for bracing against barricades, but not much else. They're just handy little stubs IMO, no reason yet for me to get rid of it.

ya i have the BCM key mod one, I use it as a reference, barricade, and storage thingy..

[Peally]

OK I went full retard and misread "deciding whether to use one" instead of "deciding on which one to use". Sorry :D

I don't need storage in the grip so I use a Magpul vert grip (short enough to stay out of the way, long enough to use as a rest). BCM has a huge selection too, and if I had a KeyMod rifle that'd be the route I'd personally take.

[LittleLebowski]

I like the stubby one in case things get too hot and for barricades.

[Kyle Reese]

I like the stubby one in case things get too hot and for barricades.

Ditto.

[breakingtime91]

thanks guys, I think I'm gonna keep it on there.

[Failure2Stop]

If you can't determine why you have it, then you might want to reevaluate your gear choice.

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[Andy T]

They are also useful for shooting from a variety of unorthodox positions. You can use it to brace against you forearm, rest it on your shoes, etc...

[NickA]

I like the stubby one in case things get too hot and for barricades.
Good thought, I hadn't considered the heat issue (since I haven't done any high volume carbine shooting).
Just won a free KMR rail, think I'll order a short grip for it.

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A consideration if you plan on using a foregrip with KeyMod as a brace or other stressed part:
http://i.imgbox.com/K72eXKBV.png (http://imgbox.com/K72eXKBV)

Roland obviously isn't his real name, but it is the same guy that the Roland Special was named after; the guy's currently an SMU, FWIW.

[breakingtime91]

A consideration if you plan on using a foregrip with KeyMod as a brace or other stressed part:
http://i.imgbox.com/K72eXKBV.png (http://imgbox.com/K72eXKBV)

Roland obviously isn't his real name, but it is the same guy that the Roland Special was named after; the guy's currently an SMU, FWIW.

that doesn't jive with what I've seen. I lift 6 times a week and can bench mid 200's and curl in the 90's for max (not super good but for my weight im doing ok) and it doesn't budge.

*Also not saying this guy is doing it but as soon as MLOK came out it seemed like keymod started to suck over night. Before that it seemed like everyone was accepting it as an option but then BAM Mlok and "keymod sucks!"

[John Hearne]

First, let me say that you can do good work with a bone stock AR. If I had to prioritize upgrades, I'd say:
1) Sling
2) White light
3) Red dot optic
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4) Free float tube
5) VFG

My take is that the VFG is more for the offensive use of the AR than the defensive role. It allows me to rapidly move my support hand out to a known, easily repeatable position and to help me shoot from obstacles. I'm running a very stubby Unity Tactical which is just long enough to be useful but not so long as to be in the way.

The only negative I see with a VFG is the use of the hammer grip on it. This can cause some accuracy problems as shooters over torque the gun.

[Peally]

Might as well buy one of those 90's broomstick VFGs if you're going to be a dork and grab the entire thing ;)

[LHS]

I still use a stubby TD, mostly as a hand stop. I don't use them on shotguns though.

[Surf]

I've run the gamut as Far as VFG's and helped with the inspiration for some variants. I have experienced or tackled just about every pro and con that I have heard of, or could think of on my own in regards to their use and now I am back to not using one. My experiences are not necessarily the same as others, so one may need to go through the process on their own to come to a conclusion. However as F2S mentions, if you cannot find an advantage to any accessory or piece of gear, then you might want to reassess the choice.

[Kyle Reese]

I use them as more of an anchor point for my support hand, but have found that the AFG pronates my support hand wrist a bit more than I would like.

[LHS]

I use them as more of an anchor point for my support hand, but have found that the AFG pronates my support hand wrist a bit more than I would like.

Agreed. I've tried the AFG on a few guns (AKs, shotguns, ARs) and never liked it. If it works for folks, rock on, but it's not for me. My hand's much more comfortable using a handstop.