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Chuck Haggard
06-16-2015, 07:05 AM
I thinks it's pretty cool, assuming it works as advertised and such;

http://www.thetacticalwire.com/story/349135

JHC
06-16-2015, 07:12 AM
I hope our Alaskans, Montanan's, Idahoans, etc can weigh in about the adoption and performance of these pricey leverguns.

The .357 lever actions I've had fed .357 a little more smoothly than the shorter .38 special. I hope they have this one really well set up.

Jeep
06-16-2015, 11:53 AM
I thinks it's pretty cool, assuming it works as advertised and such;

http://www.thetacticalwire.com/story/349135

My shoulders already ache just thinking about shooting one. What I really need to find is a light saber. Light, no recoil, and will cut a grizzly in two before it can reach me. Perfect for hikes in the great outdoors, dealing with home invasions or dissuading muggers and carjackers.

GJM
06-16-2015, 12:10 PM
Am I reading correctly, MSRP pushing $3,000?

Colt191145lover
06-16-2015, 12:48 PM
To bad its not on a Marlin action but I digest...

45dotACP
06-16-2015, 12:49 PM
Why not just a simple 45-70 for something less than $900?

LittleLebowski
06-16-2015, 01:16 PM
Am I reading correctly, MSRP pushing $3,000?

yup :(

WDW
06-16-2015, 03:01 PM
Weird!!!! I literally had a dream last night that I had a lever gun chambered in .460 S&W...

MickAK
06-16-2015, 05:01 PM
but when you can reach out and touch them from a distance you can elevate your problem-solving skills to a better level. - See more at: http://www.thetacticalwire.com/story/349135#sthash.jz18e2qy.dpuf

How considerate of them to charge from 300 yards out.

I'm not seeing what this gives you over a decent .45-70, and why it costs as much as it does.

Lost River
06-16-2015, 05:40 PM
I would say that guns like this are long on theory and short on practical application. Lever guns are cool and all, and I own a few, but for most chores in the West where I live, they are short on practical application range. A short, mag fed, bolt action in .308 or something similar makes more sense to me. Add a side mounted flashlight for things that go bump in the night around camp and call it good. Frankly I see this $3K lever gun as geared towards the market that buys it, pulls it out of the safe for "show and tell" to impress guests, then sticks it back in the safe, not to see the light of day, until the owner wants to try to impress the next person. I also agree that a 45-70 makes a lot more sense if one just wants a purely defensive camp gun. Of course, so does a 12 gauge.

LittleLebowski
06-16-2015, 06:57 PM
I'm not seeing what this gives you over a decent .45-70, and why it costs as much as it does.

Ammo commonality with your .460 revolver and it is a custom rifle.

Chuck Whitlock
06-17-2015, 12:04 PM
Ammo commonality with your .460 revolver and it is a custom rifle.

With both of them being able to use .460, .454, or .45 Colt. Not bad for a rural combo. Why couldn't Marlin chamber a Guide Gun in .460?

Malamute
06-17-2015, 12:06 PM
I'm not positive what thre chamber pressure of the 460 is, but I dont think the Marlin action can take the pressure that the 460 has. I'm pretty sure they wont take the 454, or not for very long at full pressure loads.

Chuck Whitlock
06-17-2015, 12:21 PM
Point taken.

GJM
06-17-2015, 12:21 PM
Those pistol cartridges (.454, .460, .500), as I understand it, operate at very high pressures.

I love new stuff, but this seems like a product primarily designed to liberate rich shooters from their money. A .45-70 Guide Gun or equivalent, shooting hard cast, flat meplat style loads, is the gold standard as a stopping gun around bears and large animals.

I have never understood this fascination with handgun and rifle using the same cartridge -- same kind of logic that would have us chamber our M4 AR in 9mm, because we carry a Glock 17.

Colt191145lover
06-17-2015, 12:29 PM
"I love new stuff, but this seems like a product primarily designed to liberate rich shooters from their money. A .45-70 Guide Gun or equivalent, shooting hard cast, flat meplat style loads, is the gold standard as a stopping gun around bears and large animals. "

My thoughts exactly!

I have also found that the higher pressure cartridges usually means a faster recoil velocity as well...

LittleLebowski
06-17-2015, 01:15 PM
I'm not positive what thre chamber pressure of the 460 is, but I dont think the Marlin action can take the pressure that the 460 has. I'm pretty sure they wont take the 454, or not for very long at full pressure loads.

That's what I've heard as well. A gunsmith buddy told me that the BLR action would be best for the .460

Malamute
06-17-2015, 01:24 PM
I'm sure that the Bighorn armory gun is OK with the 460, but in comparing with the Marlin, yes, the BLR is much more appropriate. Most of us dont have the $3k for a gun like the Bighorn Armory though.

Hizzie
06-23-2015, 10:37 PM
A Ruger Alaskan Toklat and one of these would be a fine combo.