Accupower 1-4

[breakingtime91]

So I am deciding between Trijicons new Accupower 1-4 line and a few other options. I really like the look of the Mil-Square reticle but am still thinking about what I would personally want. Anyone have any info on these new optics?

[Unobtanium]

People I know who have shot them like them.

[voodoo_man]

Ive never ownes one but had shot rifles with trijicon 1-4x attached, of various designs.

Trijicon knows how to make an optic. If I sobt buy a leupold 1-6x multigun ill end up buying a milsquare accupoint.

[breakingtime91]

Anyone know how the eye relief and eye box are compare to the tr24?

[HCM]

I haven't been able to put hands on an Accu power yet. However, I have a TR 24G with the green triangle. The eye box is one of the most forgiving I've tried.

[EVP]

The trijicon accupower 1-4 looks like a pretty nice option.

[breakingtime91]

mil dot or moa? what are the main differences?

[Luke]

The difference is in how you calculate your holds or adjustments. If you shoot at unknown ranges and would like to be able to range targets based on pre determined sizes IE stop sign, power pole, deer.. I'd stick to one in which you use in your daily life. If someone says how tall do you think a squirrel is? If your answer is 8 inches, you MIGHT do better off with MOA. If your answer is .1 meters.. You MIGHT be better off MIL. What ever you do don't mix MOA turrets and MIL reticle or visa versa. This is just my opinion and only matter if you plan to range your self without a range finder. If you'll always have a range finder or known distance targets it doesn't really matter. Look at the conversions and math for each. Which ever one you think you can do better if your calculator takes a dump might benifit you.

[HCM]

A review of the Accupower 1-4x

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ikQjuEmalIg

[Unobtanium]

A review of the Accupower 1-4x

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ikQjuEmalIg

Great review! Total SupersetCA vibe on the intro.

[breakingtime91]

ordered the moa with red illum off of ebay for 655 shipped. Will get some pics up after I get it!

[breakingtime91]

That seems like a really good price. Is this the same listing/seller?

Trijicon RS24-C-1900000 AccuPower 1-4x24 Riflescope MOA Crosshair w/ Red LED (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trijicon-RS24-C-1900000-AccuPower-1-4x24-Riflescope-MOA-Crosshair-w-Red-LED-/261921418484)

Yes sir

[voodoo_man]

He's got some good deals!

Edit - Trijicon on amazon sells the milsquare w/ green led for $710 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VXLQLO4)....not too shabby.

[breakingtime91]

He's got some good deals!

Edit - Trijicon on amazon sells the milsquare w/ green led for $710 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VXLQLO4)....not too shabby.

would of been my second choice.

[voodoo_man]

would of been my second choice.

You wanted the BDC specifically?

[breakingtime91]

You wanted the BDC specifically?

no I went with the MOA (mostly because the cost and I already have an understanding of it). BDC, while cool, wasn't for me.

[ASH556]

no I went with the MOA (mostly because the cost and I already have an understanding of it). BDC, while cool, wasn't for me.

Do you have it yet? Shot it? How do you like it? Got them holding one for me at work.

[breakingtime91]

Do you have it yet? Shot it? How do you like it? Got them holding one for me at work.

I get it Monday because of the 4th. I plan on taking it out on Wednesday if possible. Which one did you get?

[GJM]

The Trijicon names are confusing.

Was the Accupower discussed in the 1-4, 1-6 thread or just the Accupoint?

[breakingtime91]

The Trijicon names are confusing.

Was the Accupower discussed in the 1-4, 1-6 thread or just the Accupoint?

Accupower was discussed a little. No one really had experience with it though. Looks like Ash, Voodoo, and myself picked one up tho

[voodoo_man]

Accupower was discussed a little. No one really had experience with it though. Looks like Ash, Voodoo, and myself picked one up tho

I should have mine in a week or two, I'll post up pix and first impressions.

If it's anything like any other trijicon product, I am sure it'll be a keeper.

[breakingtime91]

I should have mine in a week or two, I'll post up pix and first impressions.

If it's anything like any other trijicon product, I am sure it'll be a keeper.

Ya, I am pretty excited about mine arriving monday. I have a "intimate" relationship with trijicon products since it was all I used down range, so it felt natural to stay with them for my own personal rifle.

[voodoo_man]

Ya, I am pretty excited about mine arriving monday. I have a "intimate" relationship with trijicon products since it was all I used down range, so it felt natural to stay with them for my own personal rifle.

I have not had a bad experience with them yet, and I have had a lot of them throughout the years.

Hell, my current duty gun is 15 or so years old and the OEM trijicons are pretty bright.

[HCM]

I have two Accupoints, one of which is almost 20 years old, and two ACOGS - the closest thing to complaints I have is the short eye relief on the 4x ACOGs.

I'm thinking about the Accupower 1-4 with the segmented circle reticle. Does any one have experience with this reticle ?

I'm curious to see how bright the dot in the MOA reticle actually is vs say the Leupold Firedot.

[ASH556]

I picked up my 1-4 Accupower yesterday. I got the Segmented Circle 55gr 5.56 BDC reticle. I messed with it in the shop and took it outside a few times for 2 weeks before making the decision to buy it. It's maybe not as bright as a Leupold Firedot, but on max illumination in afternoon sunshine I couldn't get it to wash out against a white background. Even if it did, you've got a nice, bold, black etched reticle. The turrets are a little mushier than I'd like, but every ACOG I've ever used was the same way. Use them to zero the scope, screw the caps back on, and go shoot. Seems rugged and durable, but not overly-heavy like the Vortex stuff. I'm still debating on mounts, leaning heavily toward the Aero Precision Ultralight.

I'll be using this on my 3gun rifle, so it will get knocked around a bit. I'll see if I can get some reticle pics up this week showing illumination. Glass is fantastic and reticle is clear/not overly busy. Pretty reminiscent of shooting my TA-11 with horseshoe.

[breakingtime91]

I picked up my 1-4 Accupower yesterday. I got the Segmented Circle 55gr 5.56 BDC reticle. I messed with it in the shop and took it outside a few times for 2 weeks before making the decision to buy it. It's maybe not as bright as a Leupold Firedot, but on max illumination in afternoon sunshine I couldn't get it to wash out against a white background. Even if it did, you've got a nice, bold, black etched reticle. The turrets are a little mushier than I'd like, but every ACOG I've ever used was the same way. Use them to zero the scope, screw the caps back on, and go shoot. Seems rugged and durable, but not overly-heavy like the Vortex stuff. I'm still debating on mounts, leaning heavily toward the Aero Precision Ultralight.

I'll be using this on my 3gun rifle, so it will get knocked around a bit. I'll see if I can get some reticle pics up this week showing illumination. Glass is fantastic and reticle is clear/not overly busy. Pretty reminiscent of shooting my TA-11 with horseshoe.

nice, thanks for the description. I get mine today, whenever the mail shows up. I went with the Larue SPR Mount.

[Doug]

Another review

https://youtu.be/ic7TtyfGOSc


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[voodoo_man]

Another review

https://youtu.be/ic7TtyfGOSc


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"Review"

Unless a person has put a worthwhile amount of time through an item them just talking about it is worthless.

Some of hus videos are good, except ive asked on occasion how much time he had with an item and the response was not confidence building.

[breakingtime91]

I have not shot mine yet but I am really liking it so far. The eye box is forgiving, the eye relief is crazily long compared to an Acog, the adjust do hickey is smooth, and the illumination is amazing. I will try to do some shooting with it and over time/rounds give updates. Some people I know have commented on the battery life but since it has a reticle regardless of illumination I could care less. The illumination is for me to turn on if I grab my rifle in the middle of the night.

[StraitR]

I've spent countless hours researching my next LPV optic lately. I currently have the TR24r triangle, had it for several years now, and I love it for what it is and for my purposes. To me, it is still hands down the best 1-4 when the primary mission is shooting 0-50. Subsequently, the reticle that makes it great for 0-50 is the same reticle that makes it more difficult past 5.56 MPBR (300ish yards). Anyone who owns or has considerable rounds through a TR24 triangle knows exactly what I'm talking about. Fans of the TR series, such as myself, have been begging for more reticle choices for years. Although not tritium/FO, the RS series is fine with me as long as the glass, durability, and shoot ability (FOV/Eye box) are relatively the same as the TR series. I like the stats on the new TR25 1-6, but at $1300, there are SO many other options I dare not go down that road. Honestly, for a 5.56 rifle, and based on my experience and uses here in Central FL, I'm perfectly content with 4x.

That being said, we have have a local defensive carbine (two gun) match once a month here, but 300 has been the max in matches I've shot, and generally only one target (most people are running red dots). Many of the same group, along with another larger group two hours up the road have started a DMR/SPR match, and plan on doing it at least quarterly. The first was last week, and it was so popular that they're talking about doing another in August already. Anyway, targets are as close as 5 yards, and out to 600 yards, with the majority from 300-500. Spotters are supplied for corrections. Let's just say, I'm chomping at the bit to get out and play, but the TR24 at 500-600 yards does not sound exciting. Technically, I can dial for hold overs, but wind is pure SWAG as far as hold offs. So, now you understand my use.

This leaves me looking for something with a more friendly reticle for distance. I've settled on mil/mil because it makes sense to me, and as much as I'd like a 2.5-10 NF or Vortex, it would just sit in the safe between these matches. I recently sold off my LMT MWS, no real regrets, so I'll be shooting these matches with a 5.56 gun, either a Noveske Light Recce or SR15. I'm not trying to win, more for the experience and enjoyment. I shoot plenty of 200 yard static at my local club.

Wow, that ended up being longer than I planned. So, to make a long post longer, if anyone that has already picked one up could continue to update here with additional thoughts, reticle pics (1x-4x), or comparisons to other LPV scopes used, I would greatly appreciate it.

Since you took the time to read all that, I'll give you some gun porn, and thanks in advance. Again, the MWS is gone, the TR24 is now on the SR15, the T-2 is now on the Noveske, and the T-1 has been horse traded to a friend.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7649/16360862723_17bc507265_c.jpg

[ASH556]

I got out this afternoon to take some reticle pics of the Accupower 1-4. I bought a used Larue SPR-E VFZ (non-QD) off Arfcom yesterday so hopefully it'll be here next week for me to mount and zero. In the meantime, my observations about the Accupower are all positive. You have to understand that I've been staunchly against LPV's for a long time. The concept sounds good and all, but everything I'd messed with up until this point had let me down in one way or another. Usually it was that the scope lacked a true 1X on the bottom end. I live in Northeast GA and both natural terrain and matches are all pretty much inside 100 yds. For that distance, the red dot is king. Try running a shoot house or a 3gn bay stage with a 1.25 or 1.5 on the bottom end and those 5 ft targets will eat your lunch. However, I do see the utility of the higher magnification, be it shooting something farther away, or finding/identifying a partially-occluded or dimly-lit target. Some of the earlier scopes that bragged about true 1X (Accupoint, Vortex Razor 1-6) gave horrible fisheye, which I still found distracting for close up targets. Then, you have reticle design. I prefer simpler, faster, ballpark to slower but more precise, so the 5.56 BDC segmented circle in the Accupower is right up my alley. It's similar to shooting a TA-11 ACOG with a Horseshoe. You've got this big, fat, in your face circle for closeup speed, but then very clearly-defined holdovers for distance. The glass is fantastic as well.

Perhaps my favorite thing about the Accupower is its ability to disappear. In the pics below you'll see what I mean. Because of the great eye box, field of view, true flat 1X, and low overall profile, you really don't find yourself looking through the scope on 1X. Rather, it's very much like looking through an Aimpoint or Eotech in that your focus stays on the target and you simply move the reticle onto the target vs "looking through" the optic.

I suppose the one thing that some will consider a downside to this optic is its lack of firedot-bight reticle. The reticle does illuminate and you can see it during daylight hours, but the color will wash out on a bright background in bright sunlight. However, the bold black reticle makes this a non-issue. This was another thing that was on my LPV wish list: that the reticle had to be visible/useable without illumination. For example, I love the Leupold Mark 6, but with its FFP design, the reticle shrinks on 1X and becomes a blazing bright dot. That's great so long as your battery is working, but without illumination, that tiny 1X aiming point can be hard to find. Hence, the SFP (same size throughout power range) bold black reticle in the Accupower is a great choice. Finally, Trijicon did a great job keeping the weight manageable. With most of the popular LPV's weighing in at 20+ oz, the 16oz Accupower is quite nice.

Well, that's enough rambling for now. I'll be mounting this on my 3gun rifle and putting it through its paces in the coming months. Wish me luck!

Pictures show an IDPA silhouette at roughly 20 yds:

1X, no illumination, full afternoon sun:
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/F2B2B5D9-A885-4204-ABD0-B06AD8D111DB.jpg

1X, max illumination, full afternoon sun:
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/11F48E38-84E2-4E59-B54B-D5BE4BE4FA2D.jpg

4X, max illumination, full afternoon sun:
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/0874FFEA-FB48-4D51-A40A-9702A95A141A.jpg

1X, max illumination, same lighting, target in shade:
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/734D1959-AE04-48ED-9A23-4BF00BC3807E.jpg

[joshs]

That looks pretty good. I wish more manufacturers would use a segmented circle instead of a horseshoe.


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[breakingtime91]

Ash I love mine to. I'll get some pics up after I get to the range

[voodoo_man]

I saw the segmented circle at warrior expo today. Pretty cool, the glass is really clear. Trijicon knows their stuff.

[StraitR]

Ash, really appreciate the time you took to provide the pics and feedback. Great info.

[breakingtime91]

I shot mine today, it is a really awesome scope. But lets talk about the "bad" first, day light illumination was not the greatest. Not a negative for me since I still have a badass reticle to use. I was averaging first shots at 7 yards in the .65 range, which is about what I do with irons or a dot. The glass is really clear and the throw lever is the smoothest I have felt. I ran a drill where I shot at 50, sprinted to 25 and shot 2 more. I then ran to an area about 30 yards away and had to shoot two plates at 250 and 350. I throw that sucker in prone and was easily able to adjust off impacts. All and all, if it proves durable I do not see this scope going anywhere.




*A side note, we had a "scare" the other night (my wife heard something down stairs and the dogs growled) and I grabbed my carbine with this optic on it. Without realizing it I had turned on the illumination when I press checked the gun. Turned out to be nothing but found it funny that I was worried I would forget to "turn" on the recticle. Regardless, I run a light on my carbine so if I did forget I would just light up the target with 250 lumens :cool:

[voodoo_man]

http://i.imgur.com/iUNLTgM.jpg

[breakingtime91]

I want to get some flip up covers for my accupower. Which ones from butler creek do I need?

[voodoo_man]

I want to get some flip up covers for my accupower. Which ones from butler creek do I need?

Get a scope coat (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00162PPN8). Easier on and off and you don't have to deal with the covers when they break or obstruct your view.

[KeeFus]

Our new ARs (M&P 15s Magpul Edition...) come with the standard front sight and flip up rear. Will the front sight interfere with the sight picture of the Accupower 1-4x 24 too much? Or is it base dependent?

Silly question probably but I have an astigmatism and the Aimpoint Pro dot looks like a comma.

[HCM]

Our new ARs (M&P 15s Magpul Edition...) come with the standard front sight and flip up rear. Will the front sight interfere with the sight picture of the Accupower 1-4x 24 too much? Or is it base dependent?

Silly question probably but I have an astigmatism and the Aimpoint Pro dot looks like a comma.

On a 1-4 x i think you will be fine. Ihad a chance to shoot a similar set up, a SIG M400 with a Vortex 1-4 and the A frame was not an issue at all.

[Sigfan26]

Our new ARs (M&P 15s Magpul Edition...) come with the standard front sight and flip up rear. Will the front sight interfere with the sight picture of the Accupower 1-4x 24 too much? Or is it base dependent?

Silly question probably but I have an astigmatism and the Aimpoint Pro dot looks like a comma.

I use an ADM ReconH and have no issue on my Colt 6920

[Sigfan26]

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[KeeFus]

Thus far Ive looked through an Aimpoint PRO, Aimpoint T-1, EOTECH, and some other red dot optic that I'm unsure of the brand name. All either look like a starburst or a comma/apostrophe. Someone mentioned that the Aimpoint T-2 may be different but I havent looked through one yet and one of the other firearms instructors is getting a Trijicon MRO in the coming weeks which I will look through. This astigmatism is irritating me to no end with red-dot optics. Will the Trijicon Accupower 1-4x24 with the segmented recticle help or am I just pissing in the wind? I can get the optic for 40% off MSRP from Trijicon (any LE firearms instructor can with the proper documentation).

[HCM]

Thus far Ive looked through an Aimpoint PRO, Aimpoint T-1, EOTECH, and some other red dot optic that I'm unsure of the brand name. All either look like a starburst or a comma/apostrophe. Someone mentioned that the Aimpoint T-2 may be different but I havent looked through one yet and one of the other firearms instructors is getting a Aimpoint MRO in the coming weeks which I will look through. This astigmatism is irritating me to no end with red-dot optics. Will the Aimpoint Accupower 1-4x24 with the segmented recticle help or am I just pissing in the wind? I can get the optic for 40% off MSRP from Trijicon (any LE firearms instructor can with the proper documentation).

The etched reticle should be just fine even with your Astigmatism. I had 20/20 vision until my mid 40s. Now, I can still see aimpoint just fine with my glasses but I get the comma affect without them when my eyes are tired. Speaking of Trijicon I understand the RMR works for some people with astigmatism.

You just cost me money. Check your PM's.

[Sigfan26]

Thus far Ive looked through an Aimpoint PRO, Aimpoint T-1, EOTECH, and some other red dot optic that I'm unsure of the brand name. All either look like a starburst or a comma/apostrophe. Someone mentioned that the Aimpoint T-2 may be different but I havent looked through one yet and one of the other firearms instructors is getting a Trijicon MRO in the coming weeks which I will look through. This astigmatism is irritating me to no end with red-dot optics. Will the Trijicon Accupower 1-4x24 with the segmented recticle help or am I just pissing in the wind? I can get the optic for 40% off MSRP from Trijicon (any LE firearms instructor can with the proper documentation).

I have bad astigmatism. No issues with the green circle dot reticle on my Accupower

[ASH556]

I shot my first match with this scope Sunday and have to say that I really enjoyed it. It's helping me overcome my distrust of "1X" optics for shooting on the move. This match has a "gulley run" which basically consists of 10 targets in the woods that must be double-tapped on the move between the starting point and cone. Targets are left and right and partially obscured by trees, etc. Targets are IDPA silhouettes and are scored with full value being added for down zones. I completed the stage in 19 seconds minus 1, so 20. All in all, that's moving on uneven terrain, forward and laterally (curved path through the woods) with 19/20 hits inside an 8" ring. On another stage, an array of 4 IDPA targets were shot from a static position, two to the body left to right; then one to the head right to left. I was able to shoot this in 6.15. The fastest shooter on our squad (and overall match winner) shot it in 6.09 using an Aimpoint.

At this point I'm gaining comfort with it and anxious to put it through its paces some more in the A3G Championship match at the end of October. So far, it doesn't look like it's giving up anything to an Aimpoint.

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/IMG_8916.jpg

[R.M.T.]

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Soft 340 zero at SAC about a month ago. Really digging it. The turrets are not as tactile a I would have liked. Rifle is a 14.5 308 built on a mega chassis. All up it weighs 9lbs 12oz with a full mag. Super happy with the build.


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[Unobtanium]

Thus far Ive looked through an Aimpoint PRO, Aimpoint T-1, EOTECH, and some other red dot optic that I'm unsure of the brand name. All either look like a starburst or a comma/apostrophe. Someone mentioned that the Aimpoint T-2 may be different but I havent looked through one yet and one of the other firearms instructors is getting a Trijicon MRO in the coming weeks which I will look through. This astigmatism is irritating me to no end with red-dot optics. Will the Trijicon Accupower 1-4x24 with the segmented recticle help or am I just pissing in the wind? I can get the optic for 40% off MSRP from Trijicon (any LE firearms instructor can with the proper documentation).
Is Trijicon taking a loss on you guys, or is there THAT MUCH mark-up? If they are marking their optics up that much, that explains a lot, but if they are taking a loss on LE, good for them!

[HCM]

Is Trijicon taking a loss on you guys, or is there THAT MUCH mark-up? If they are marking their optics up that much, that explains a lot, but if they are taking a loss on LE, good for them!

I'm not sure what their markup is but there aren't many optics that sell for MSRP. It's worth noting that Triger con's discount only applies to firearms instructors not to LE / MIL in general.This indicates to me it's a way to put their products in the hands of people who have input on equipment selection and people who others look to for guidance in selecting personal purchase equipment. Essentially it is a form of marketing or advertising.

[joshs]

Is Trijicon taking a loss on you guys, or is there THAT MUCH mark-up? If they are marking their optics up that much, that explains a lot, but if they are taking a loss on LE, good for them!

I think that's a pretty standard "good guy" discount. That's from MSRP, it's not nearly as much of a discount from the street price.

[breakingtime91]

ya u can snag accupowers for low 600s if your patient on ebay

[EVP]

Anyone have any updates?

I am considering moving from an aimpoint but the robustness of the aimpoints kinda keeps me leaning towards them.

[breakingtime91]

800 rounds down the pipe with mine. Some of the things its been through:
-bounced around in a soft case between Montana and Wisconsin and then back to montana. It was shot in wisconsin and also dropped about 5ft onto dirt by an inexperienced shooter.
-detached (larue) about 8-10 times
-rested against benches, berms, and the ground.

For a civilian this is pretty normal but it did get beat up in the back of my durango (loads of stuff shifted onto the rifle/optic and it never lost zero). I did leave it on the 11/10/9 setting for a couple of months and the battery died sometime in the past 3 days. No biggie, I put a new battery in and to be honest, I am not sure how badly you need the lit up reticle if you have a light on your rifle. Does it help? Absolutely but it isn't needed. So far I really like it and for the money it is probably one of the best 1-4 options out there IMO. Is it a night force? No but it'll do the job.

[voodoo_man]

Anyone have any updates?

I am considering moving from an aimpoint but the robustness of the aimpoints kinda keeps me leaning towards them.

Put the green milsquare in a bobro on my mk107 upper. It works well enough, though the milsquare is very small and difficult to use at times it does a good job.

[StraitR]

Is everyone still happy with their Accupower? I noticed that BT91 got rid of his, but any additional updates from anyone else? The Accupower is on my short list of LPV's to look for on Black Friday/Cyber Monday.

[breakingtime91]

Is everyone still happy with their Accupower? I noticed that BT91 got rid of his, but any additional updates from anyone else? The Accupower is on my short list of LPV's to look for on Black Friday/Cyber Monday.

I kept mine bro. I had a short lapse of judgement and pulled it down and sold something else

[voodoo_man]

Is everyone still happy with their Accupower? I noticed that BT91 got rid of his, but any additional updates from anyone else? The Accupower is on my short list of LPV's to look for on Black Friday/Cyber Monday.

Still have mine.

The glass is nice and while you should choose a reticle based on your needs it, its a Trijicon product so it'll likely work very well for years to come.

[ASH556]

I still like mine! It's the only one I'd use short of a Swaro or Kahles. I'm super picky about 1x not giving up speet and transitions to an Aimpoint and this one beats everything else I've tried (Nightforce, Vortex, Leupold, Bushnell, etc.)

[StraitR]

I kept mine bro. I had a short lapse of judgement and pulled it down and sold something else

HAHA. Ok, I saw it up in the classifieds and thought you parted with it.


Still have mine.

The glass is nice and while you should choose a reticle based on your needs it, its a Trijicon product so it'll likely work very well for years to come.

I've had a TR24r (triangle) for a few years and have been very happy with it, but the bigger triangle and lack of holdovers have me wanting a useful reticle for 300-600m. Looking at the MOA crosshair reticle (RS24-C-1900001).


I still like mine! It's the only one I'd use short of a Swaro or Kahles. I'm super picky about 1x not giving up speet and transitions to an Aimpoint and this one beats everything else I've tried (Nightforce, Vortex, Leupold, Bushnell, etc.)

Thanks Ash. I've found the TR24r to be every bit as fast as my T-1/T-2's. I expect that to degrade a bit by losing the big red triangle, but there's a local SPR/DMR match once a quarter here with targets out to 600m, and I really want a more appropriate reticle.

[breakingtime91]

HAHA. Ok, I saw it up in the classifieds and thought you parted with it.



I've had a TR24r (triangle) for a few years and have been very happy with it, but the bigger triangle and lack of holdovers have me wanting a useful reticle for 300-600m. Looking at the MOA crosshair reticle (RS24-C-1900001).



Thanks Ash. I've found the TR24r to be every bit as fast as my T-1/T-2's. I expect that to degrade a bit by losing the big red triangle, but there's a local SPR/DMR match once a quarter here with targets out to 600m, and I really want a more appropriate reticle.

I really like the moa, worked well out to 700 when I did my job. If u were closer I would let you try it lol

[GJM]

I got a 1-4 Accupower with the red segmented reticle. Plopped it in a Bobro mount on a 6720, no bore sighting, and at the range this afternoon, the first three shots went into a one inch group, 1/2 inch high and 2 inches left at 50 yards. On high intensity, I could see the red illumination in bright sun -- not Aimpoint bright, but brighter than a NF 1-4.

Looking through the scope at the target, I noticed something odd. On 1 power, it was almost as if the scope shrunk the target, effectively making in .75% of one power. When I got home, I looked again, comparing the Accupower 1-4 with an Aimpoint Pro and NF 1-4. The Accupower seemed to shrink the target to my eyes, and to my wife's eyes.

Anyone else noticed this, and what is going on?

[breakingtime91]

I havent noticed it.. Not to say it isn't there but I'll check closer the next time I handle it.

[voodoo_man]

@GJM, I have not either. I compared the accupower to my SR4c and the glass is nearly identical at 1x.

[ASH556]

I got a 1-4 Accupower with the red segmented reticle. Plopped it in a Bobro mount on a 6720, no bore sighting, and at the range this afternoon, the first three shots went into a one inch group, 1/2 inch high and 2 inches left at 50 yards. On high intensity, I could see the red illumination in bright sun -- not Aimpoint bright, but brighter than a NF 1-4.

Looking through the scope at the target, I noticed something odd. On 1 power, it was almost as if the scope shrunk the target, effectively making in .75% of one power. When I got home, I looked again, comparing the Accupower 1-4 with an Aimpoint Pro and NF 1-4. The Accupower seemed to shrink the target to my eyes, and to my wife's eyes.

Anyone else noticed this, and what is going on?

It is a diopter adjustment issue. Most of the 1X scopes will do it (I've noticed it heavily on the Vortex Razor 1-6's). Just adjust the diopter on the end of the eyepiece until you see a true, flat 1X image.

[GJM]

Copy, thanks!

[Ironman8]

I know this is a necro-post but I didn't want to start a new thread.

I was hoping somebody with the BDC reticle could chime in. I'm wondering how it does with .223 at slower velocities, say from an SBR? Does it line up pretty close out to 400 yards? I prefer a mil reticle, but if the BDC works then I could work with that.

Also, I'm wondering how fast the reticle is to pick up with no illumination? Logically thinking, it should be the same as the reticle on the 1-8x right?

Right now, I'm trying to decide whether I should go the 1-4x route or the 1-8x. This would be on a SBR as a GP rifle for 0-400ish yards. If the weight and price of the 1-8x it's worth it, then I may go that route.

[voodoo_man]

Spend the extra and buy the 1-8x.

Trijicon makes good stuff. And overkill on magnification isn't exactly a bad thing.

[Ironman8]

Spend the extra and buy the 1-8x.

Trijicon makes good stuff. And overkill on magnification isn't exactly a bad thing.

I saw your 1-4x review and was hoping you'd chime in here. I take it you've spent time behind the 1-8x, so how "fast" is the reticle at 1x with no illumination?

Also, somewhat related and I think you've tested it, but would you feel ok putting this in an Aero Precision UL mount to try to keep things as light as possible or take the extra 5 ounces of a Geissele or Bobro? Not much out there regarding durability of the AP scope mounts.

[voodoo_man]

I saw your 1-4x review and was hoping you'd chime in here. I take it you've spent time behind the 1-8x, so how "fast" is the reticle at 1x with no illumination?

Also, somewhat related and I think you've tested it, but would you feel ok putting this in an Aero Precision UL mount to try to keep things as light as possible or take the extra 5 ounces of a Geissele or Bobro? Not much out there regarding durability of the AP scope mounts.

I have not had any significant time behind the trijicon 1-8x. I've shot a buddies a few times and the illumination is sufficient while the optic itself is robust, definitely reminds me of my old ta31fg in terms of fit/finish.

If you do not need QD then the aero is pretty good, the one I reviewed was good enough to work once torqued properly.

I have not tried the new geissele but from what I can tell it's exactly what you would expect from geissele. It's next on my list to try, probably with my next optic.

Bobro makes a fantastic QD mount. It is extremely well made and I would recommend it to anyone looking for a QD solution.

With all the above said, if you are looking for light an optic mount should be the last place you look to save weight. Barrel, optic, optic mount, they have to be good to go and unfortunately the heavier stuff usually is.

[ffhounddog]

Is anyone still using their Accupower long term? I’m getting back my Accupower green duplex reticle when I get back from this deployment. I have 3 acogs with the crosshair reticle and I’m thinking of getting rid of this scope or a Steiner since I want to do more long range shooting so need different glass for my Begaras and AR-10. I think The Trijicon to my eye has a light gathering compared to the PXi4 but the reticle are different.

My issued M4 and the AR-15/M4gery I have at home have a TA01nsn on top. I did Pickup a Steiner prism to try out I just have different needs now.

[fatdog]

Is anyone still using their Accupower long term?

A data point. I picked up my original Accupower 1-4 red triangle the first year they came out replacing the 1.25x4.5 version or whatever that gen 1 was. I am guessing 2006-2007? It has been in continuous service mostly on my 3gun 5.56 rifle or doing coyote watch duty on another AR-15 until this summer when I realized the tritium was essentially dead. I emailed Trijicon in inquire about relamping it. They sent me a return authorization and I shipped it back. About 5 weeks later they returned it, no charge, replaced the tritium and the fiber (although I had no complaints about the fiber part working well). I put it back on an AR this month and zero'ed it.

The 1-4X is adequate to my needs as I am unlikely to ever attempt a shot over 200 yards out here on some varmint with the AR. I recently acquired another used model with the cross hair reticle from a member here and put it on different AR.

So I have not done anything rough, just taking the rifles to the range and shooting, practice or matches, farm rifle stuff, and I am going to wildly guess that this accupower has seen over 5K rounds in its lifetime, all 5.56 and it has held its zero (despite being in a LaRue mount?) and continues to work. I have no hard use context to report, and that would be more telling about how well these hold up.

[fatdog]

Sorry, misread fflhoundog's post, my reference is the accupoint, not accupower...don't know anything about those.

[Ndbbm]

Is the credo line the replacement for the accupower? And are there any significant changes? Anyone have thoughts on using one now (I noticed most of the comments are a few years ago) on a patrol rifle vs something like a ta-33 with mrds piggyback. I have a H1 on it now but the aiming bean (my eyes) and I keep hitting scenarios were a little magnification would have been nice (I’m also limited to 4x). I’m not fond of the extra parts for a magnifier set up and again back to the aiming bean as it is.


Jason

[TWR]

I have two of them I still use, I like them. I seldom use the illumination but the bold segmented circle is easy to see. The center dot allows me more accuracy than I’m capable of and the BDC has been on out to 700 yards with my reloads. They are easy to get behind, clear, light weight and I’ve not had to change the zero since I dialed them in 4 or 5 years ago.

[Nephrology]

I have a Credo 2-10 I am very happy with, no experience with the LPVO.

[ffhounddog]

Is the credo line the replacement for the accupower? And are there any significant changes? Anyone have thoughts on using one now (I noticed most of the comments are a few years ago) on a patrol rifle vs something like a ta-33 with mrds piggyback. I have a H1 on it now but the aiming bean (my eyes) and I keep hitting scenarios were a little magnification would have been nice (I’m also limited to 4x). I’m not fond of the extra parts for a magnifier set up and again back to the aiming bean as it is.


Jason

Jason the credo amd credo HX are the replacement for the Accupower. I just have the green duplex that seem to have gone away from that reticle but there are a lot of good reticles now for it. If you are looking for Aimpoint daylight bright in 4x I would be the look at is the Steiner PX4i as well as the Trijicon offerings because it has Aimpoint like red dot. Only reason why I’m thinking of getting rid of the Steiner is I have Four 1x-6x scopes and I got on this deployment (all 4 are the same reticle and scope) that are going on my rifles when I get back and a TA02 Acog that will be going on another rifle with the TA01nsn reticle.

Part of the reasons I’m going back and forth I know people will pay more for the Steiner Vice the Accupower at this point due to daylight illumination, and when I get back in 2022 the Accupower will be still a discontinued scope. I have a fiancé (who happens to be a Marine) that likes the duplex reticle/TA01 reticle so that is also driving my reasoning.

The Trijicon Credo 1-4 and Steiner 1-4 would be some of the best 1-4 on the market right now.