HD Shotgun flashlight.

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I'm looking for a light to mount to a Home Defense Shotgun. I would like to keep the budget around 100.00.
The first question involves which switch?
So far I have under consideration
Streamlight TLR-1 HL
Surefire Fury single brightness.
I am thinking a clamp from extended tube to barrel. I can get either picatinny rail or just a 1" clamp specifically for a flashlight.

[Crusader8207]

What shotgun are you using? I run an 870 with a Magpul fore end that has a small rail attach. I then use an INFORCE WML and activate it with my thumb. I found the light on eBay for about $75 and the fore end was about $20.

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Its a Remington 1100.I want to leave it stock except for the magazine extension and the light.
I am asking about which because of low light tactics. Is one type recommended more than the other.
I like the Streamlight because it is a wide beam which seems perfect for home defense. I like Surefire for the warranty. I plan on the beam from the light illuminating a fiber optic front.



What shotgun are you using? I run an 870 with a Magpul fore end that has a small rail attach. I then use an INFORCE WML and activate it with my thumb. I found the light on eBay for about $75 and the fore end was about $20.

[Chuck Haggard]

I doubt you'll be able to get a light mounted so that it lights up the FO front sight, but you'll be able to get it silhouetted against the target nicely.

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I doubt you'll be able to get a light mounted so that it lights up the FO front sight, but you'll be able to get it silhouetted against the target nicely.

That will work too.

[JDM]

http://www.mountsplus.com/AR-15_Accessories/AR-15_Scope_Rings/130-CDM-MOD-C.html

I use the above mount with a single output surefire G2 on my Benelli M1. It is easy to use, and pretty solid. it also lights up the front sight nicely.

I'll take some pictures shortly.


ETA: The CDM mount is out of stock everywhere I looked. Apparently they are in production (http://www.cdmgear.com/lightmounts.html).

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They will be back in stock next week. So the G2 doesn't have a clicky. It's twist to on. This is the type of switch you recommend? If you have time can you explain your decision to me so I can understand the thought process.

http://www.mountsplus.com/AR-15_Accessories/AR-15_Scope_Rings/130-CDM-MOD-C.html

I use the above mount with a single output surefire G2 on my Benelli M1. It is easy to use, and pretty solid. it also lights up the front sight nicely.

I'll take some pictures shortly.


ETA: The CDM mount is out of stock everywhere I looked. Apparently they are in production (http://www.cdmgear.com/lightmounts.html).

[JDM]

I don't think I am in a position to recommend anything, but I will happily share my experiences and what works for me.

Modulating a clicky tail cap, especially on a light with multiple brightness levels has always been a pain in the ass for me. I would get constant bright when I was after momentary, and momentary dim when I wanted something else. The only clicky light I've had simply did not work for me.

When I activate a weapon mounted light, I want to know exactly what I am getting every time, regardless of how I activate the button on the back. I also cannot think of a situation I would want the weapon light to be constantly on where I would not have the time to twist the tailcap an eighth of a turn or whatever.

[TR675]

Two brightness level clickies also will sometimes change modes under recoil.

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I don't think I am in a position to recommend anything, but I will happily share my experiences and what works for me.

Modulating a clicky tail cap, especially on a light with multiple brightness levels has always been a pain in the ass for me. I would get constant bright when I was after momentary, and momentary dim when I wanted something else. The only clicky light I've had simply did not work for me.

When I activate a weapon mounted light, I want to know exactly what I am getting every time, regardless of how I activate the button on the back. I also cannot think of a situation I would want the weapon light to be constantly on where I would not have the time to twist the tailcap an eighth of a turn or whatever.


Two brightness level clickies also will sometimes change modes under recoil.


I'm looking for a light to mount to a Home Defense Shotgun. I would like to keep the budget around 100.00.
The first question involves which switch?
So far I have under consideration
Streamlight TLR-1 HL
Surefire Fury single brightness.I am thinking a clamp from extended tube to barrel. I can get either picatinny rail or just a 1" clamp specifically for a flashlight.
I see what you are saying. Both lights I have specified are single brightness. I can see with a clickie the light could be switched on when you just wanted a flash. All my experience was with NVG, Starlight NOD not flashlights. Seems like I need a low level light class, I would like to purchase whatever is the current recommendation.

[SpyderMan2k4]

I've tried a number of mounting options on terms of putting a light on a forend, and they all beat up my hand under recoil. Because of that I much prefer it mounted to the tube/barrel. I've got pumps, so my hand moves away from the light.. I like clicky so I have the option to have it on through the whole process. That's less of an issue with a semi. I've been running Fenix lights for a few years but the new Surefire lights look great

[Dropkick]

I'm here for some pictures. ;)

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+1
I'm here for some pictures. ;)

[JDM]

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa334/fatcook/D99F5357-0D47-4619-AA1E-219770FBEDD5_zps1etiwy9d.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa334/fatcook/51B167F4-CD30-44E4-A45E-60CFB0ACC755_zpsx2coe3nz.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa334/fatcook/FF05C3B7-F79D-4176-AF03-78E4311C9A3C_zps5zc7ttky.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa334/fatcook/493BFE97-6DAC-4200-AB80-7B607C5358EC_zpsgmmevnm2.jpg

A three cell length light would be ideal, as it would basically eliminate barrel shadow, but I have no desire for a 1000 lumen light on a gun I might use inside. The 320 from this G2 is pushing it.

And FWIW I don't really notice the shadow when I'm on the sights.

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http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa334/fatcook/493BFE97-6DAC-4200-AB80-7B607C5358EC_zpsgmmevnm2.jpg

A three cell length light would be ideal, as it would basically eliminate barrel shadow, but I have no desire for a 1000 lumen light on a gun I might use inside. The 320 from this G2 is pushing it.

And FWIW I don't really notice the shadow when I'm on the sights.
Thanks. I really like this pic.

[coldcase1984]

Your choice of barrel or tube mount with a plain old SF Nitrolon 60 lumen light. Got a SF G2x Dual Output, and I'd rather use the 10 Lumen setting than the 320 that produces too much bloom inside my house.

[SpyderMan2k4]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/spyderman2k4/IMG_20150403_201718304_HDR_zpsruoqm2ot.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/spyderman2k4/media/IMG_20150403_201718304_HDR_zpsruoqm2ot.jpg.html)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/spyderman2k4/IMG_20150403_201955029_HDR_zpsoxr3j8eq.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/spyderman2k4/media/IMG_20150403_201955029_HDR_zpsoxr3j8eq.jpg.html)

This is a little bit of a custom setup as mounting a light with a sling, and not having them interfere with each other, can be tricky. The light sticks out from the side slightly further to accommodate the sling, but it hasn't been an issue so far.

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http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa334/fatcook/D99F5357-0D47-4619-AA1E-219770FBEDD5_zps1etiwy9d.jpg

A three cell length light would be ideal, as it would basically eliminate barrel shadow, but I have no desire for a 1000 lumen light on a gun I might use inside. The 320 from this G2 is pushing it.

And FWIW I don't really notice the shadow when I'm on the sights.

So when you are shooting do you hold your thumb on the activation switch? How does recoil effect your thumb and do you have any problem breaking contact loosing your illumination?

[65k10]

BOM. How many rounds do you have with that light setup? I have a G2X like yours that I wouldn't mind using on a shotgun, but I was under the impression they might not hold up on a gun.

[JDM]

So when you are shooting do you hold your thumb on the activation switch? How does recoil effect your thumb and do you have any problem breaking contact loosing your illumination?

The recoil doesn't really bother my thumb and I don't struggle keeping the light on.

[JDM]

BOM. How many rounds do you have with that light setup? I have a G2X like yours that I wouldn't mind using on a shotgun, but I was under the impression they might not hold up on a gun.

I have 100 or so birdshot, probably the same amount of buckshot, and 40 or so Brenneke slugs. No issues so far.

[65k10]

I have 100 or so birdshot, probably the same amount of buckshot, and 40 or so Brenneke slugs. No issues so far.

Works for me.

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Can anyone post their experience of a TLR vs a Flashlight on a shotgun?

[Chuck Haggard]

The vast majority of my experience has been with the Sure Fire integrated forends/pumps when it comes to shotguns. Those work REALLY well, but are rather pricey.


The mounting for the TLRs seems to hang the light out in space away from the gun a bit. Some of the set-ups we tried at work, using the thumb to run the toggle switch, were rather uncomfortable during recoil.

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Thanks Chuck

The vast majority of my experience has been with the Sure Fire integrated forends/pumps when it comes to shotguns. Those work REALLY well, but are rather pricey.


The mounting for the TLRs seems to hang the light out in space away from the gun a bit. Some of the set-ups we tried at work, using the thumb to run the toggle switch, were rather uncomfortable during recoil.

[Chuck Haggard]

Oh, I have also seen some of the clicky type switches get clicked into "on" during recoil, which may or may not be a bad thing. The lights that are mounted in line and so one can run them with the forward thumb seem to be comfortable under recoil if one has a rubber boot type switch, just wanted to throw the clicky thing in there for food for thought.

[Dropkick]

Some of the set-ups we tried at work, using the thumb to run the toggle switch, were rather uncomfortable during recoil.
Thanks for that tidbit. I was talking with a friend the other day about how I was considering trying out a TLR or X300 on the "Streamlight Mag Tube Rail" mount I have. I'm reconsidering that idea now, a normal tube flashlight sounds like a better option.

[65k10]

I tried the TLR-1 on the bottom of a forend. The problem was activation wasn't as easy as I wanted it to be and it wasn't fun having the switch jab my hand during recoil. For now I'm trying a G2X mounted at 6 o'clock on the forend and activating it by sliding my hand forward so it pushes on the tailcap. If I wanted this around for more than to be familiar with a shotgun, I think I'd just spring for the Surefire forend.

[Jakus]

Anyone had success mounting a momentary only Inforce WML on the Magpul forend? How did it feel through recoil?

On a pump shotgun does having the light mounted forward of the forend leave you hunting for the light when you reach for it after cycling the action?

[Wheeler]

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt86/Wheeler686/S%20and%20W/1749CFBD-1D1B-4C14-AFE3-27CA9E53E899_zpsrqmhjwnm.jpg (http://s600.photobucket.com/user/Wheeler686/media/S%20and%20W/1749CFBD-1D1B-4C14-AFE3-27CA9E53E899_zpsrqmhjwnm.jpg.html)

I have not had the opportunity to run the gun with the light mounted yet.

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I have not had the opportunity to run the gun with the light mounted yet.
Should be interesting to read about if you have the time to post your results.

[ASH556]

I'll echo others here in that I found forend-mounted lights to be very uncomfortable to my thumb. I used both a G2X (single output) in an offset Gear Sector mount and an X300. The X300 was worse than the G2. Neither were satisfactory, so I switched to a Surefire forend. Sorry, but that's really the best answer for a shotgun light. Iterations:

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/20130310_183140.jpg

(apparently the X300 was such a bad idea I didn't even take the time to photo it)

SF Forend:
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/IMG_7131.jpg

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I have a plan :cool: Thanks for the input. I have an 870 and an 1100. Both are police dept trade ins that I got fairly inexpensively. 1100 doesn't have a forend available and besides I find that too expensive of a solution.

[QUOTE=ASH556;311123]I'll echo others here in that I found forend-mounted lights to be very uncomfortable to my thumb. I used both a G2X (single output) in an offset Gear Sector mount and an X300. The X300 was worse than the G2. Neither were satisfactory, so I switched to a Surefire forend. Sorry, but that's really the best answer for a shotgun light.

[SLG]

Been reading up on lights. Most of my experience is with the SF forends, but I've never really liked them. What is the best clamp/mount for a tube light for an M2 and an 870?

[LHS]

I've played around with several configs of lights bolted on in various ways, and I keep coming back to the old-school Laser Products-era SureFire forends. They're heavy, but for me they have the best switching arrangement and comfort.

[Cookie Monster]

(apparently the X300 was such a bad idea I didn't even take the time to photo it)

I was thinking about getting X300U for my pair of 870's. What was the issue is the X300's? The way I roll Surefire fore ends are a no go, I cannot physically work them. Maybe mount up some Surefire Fury's.

Cheers,
Cookie Monster

[Crusader8207]

I run a Surefire Scout Mini on a Magpul MOE fore end3431

[Caboose]

Do you come over the top with the support thumb to activate the mini scout?


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[JM Campbell]

This

http://arisakadefense.com/collections/light-mounts/products/300-series-light

And this

http://arisakadefense.com/collections/light-mounts/products/offset-scout-mount-m-lok

Or even this

http://arisakadefense.com/collections/light-mounts/products/ring-light-mount-m-lok

Might be the ticket for you guys using the magpul moe furniture with m-lok.

[Crusader8207]

I'm a lefty, so I activate it with my right thumb.
Do you come over the top with the support thumb to activate the mini scout?


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Bump for any innovations or additional solutions for shotgun flashlights

[SpyderMan2k4]

I've become a BIG fan of using handheld lights with a clicky, using 1" scope rings and a piece of rail. That's essentially how my 1301 and 590 are set up... The 870 was set up that way until i put a surefire forend on it (which i hate, but it's not my main gun and i like having it for variety when it comes to T&E).

I HATE lights attached to forends. I tried a bunch of solutions with the magpul forend, and everything just beat the hell out of my hand under recoil. Therefore, I prefer having the light mounted further forward than where my support hand usually rides.

Clicky all the way. I don't want to try relying on keeping pressure on the cap under recoil - obviously with a pump, since the light isn't attached to the forend, clicky is necessary to keep the light on during the firing cycle.

Single output, single button is the way to go. I've played around with different options and they all suck when you're running it. I.e. i tried a Fenix tk16, 2 button. Turning it on was no problem, but there were times I'd go to turn it off, but hit the mode button on accident, and make it dimmer instead of off. No good.

My current light of choice is the Fenix tk15UE (currently on my AR, AK, and 1301). There are different brightness that can be selected with a button on the body (i mount the light so the button is facing the gun so it doesn't get bumped accidentally.) It's 1000 lumens, single button clicky. I shoot an above average amount of shotgun, typically the heaviest recoiling 00 i can find, and the Fenix lights have never missed a beat.

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