Beretta 92 FS Safety

[Clobbersaurus]

I am curious how the membership here use the safety on their 92 F(S)'s.

1) Always use the safety, holstered or otherwise.

2) Just use the safety to decock and otherwise threat the gun like a G model Beretta.

Cheers,

Clobb

[JSGlock34]

Good topic - I'm curious to hear more as well. On the M9 I have the tendency to use the safety to decock only. That said, having recently acquired a G model, I can't say I run the M9/FS just like the G. With the FS, I'm probably not decocking until ready to holster. With the G, I'm trying to develop the habit of decocking once I bring the pistol back to the ready (dismounting the pistol) or when preparing to move.

[Trooper224]

Only used as a decocker, never as a safety. Carried with safety off.

[Alpha Sierra]

Only used as a decocker, never as a safety. Carried with safety off.

I don't have a Beretta but do have a 3rd gen S&W with the same exact safety/decocker arrangement and that is what I do. I refuse to use handguns must be carried with a manual safety engaged.

[Beat Trash]

Only used as a decocker, never as a safety. Carried with safety off.

This...

This is how we were trained to carry our S&W 5906's when transitioning from revolvers to 9mm's.

[Trooper224]

In my two decades of 1911 carry I always used the safety, of course. However, I find the safety to be a redundant feature on the 92FS given the initial double action pull. I typically reload with the slide stop, but since installing a low profile, single-sided lever I've worked the slide quite a bit as an experiment and in the last ten months have yet to engage it inadvertently. I consider the lo-pro safety an absolute must-do modification to the FS.

[Redhat]

Carried the M9 hammer down safety off. Used it as a de-cocker except when clearing/unloading the weapon where it was placed on SAFE.

[GardoneVT]

I am curious how the membership here use the safety on their 92 F(S)'s.

1) Always use the safety, holstered or otherwise.

2) Just use the safety to decock and otherwise threat the gun like a G model Beretta.

Cheers,

Clobb

Hammer down, safety off.Manual safety is used as de-cocker.

[Sigfan26]

I HATED Beretta for the longest time (due to the safety)... Until the 92G was re released. Decocker only is the only way to be with a Beretta 92 series pistol. While using the safety as a decocker works, running the slide (for any reason) can result in a dead gun. The G series guns are unable to render the guns inoperable.

[Clobbersaurus]

I've been training with my F Clone for a few weeks now. I've spent a fair amount of time with a G model Beretta, but I'm actually kinda digging the F(S) safety. I must have weird body mechanics or something, because when I first tried it, I couldn't understand why everyone complains so much about it. It's smooth and intuitive to operate on the press out and it offers more security when holstering.

My only issue is that its very easy to accidentally disengage, especially when holstered.

[Redhat]

I HATED Beretta for the longest time (due to the safety)... Until the 92G was re released. Decocker only is the only way to be with a Beretta 92 series pistol. While using the safety as a decocker works, running the slide (for any reason) can result in a dead gun. The G series guns are unable to render the guns inoperable.

It is what it is and being an issued weapon, we had to make friends with it. Sling shot the slide from behind by grabbing the safety levers or over the top doing the same thing. That's about the best way I ever found...

[Sigfan26]

It is what it is and being an issued weapon, we had to make friends with it. Sling shot the slide from behind by grabbing the safety levers or over the top doing the same thing. That's about the best way I ever found...

If military (or Law enforcement), this is the best advice (along with using the "safety" as a deCocker only)... If not military, get a G series.

[GardoneVT]

I HATED Beretta for the longest time (due to the safety)... Until the 92G was re released. Decocker only is the only way to be with a Beretta 92 series pistol. While using the safety as a decocker works, running the slide (for any reason) can result in a dead gun. The G series guns are unable to render the guns inoperable.

Subject to user's hand size.

A method which works for me is this-instead of running one's hand straight back from the front/middle and activating the safety, Ill grab the back of the slide under the safety from the start and pull back, making it impossible for the safety to activate as my thumb is under the left side and the offhand pointer finger is holding the safety from the right side. Ive never had an accidental safety activation happen when manipulating it this way.

[Redhat]

If military (or Law enforcement), this is the best advice (along with using the "safety" as a deCocker only)... If not military, get a G series.

Carried one (mil) for 20 years...just no interest in having one now.

ETA: Sorry Sigfan26, I thought your reply was to me.

[Sigfan26]

Subject to user's hand size.

A method which works for me is this-instead of running one's hand straight back from the front/middle and activating the safety, Ill grab the back of the slide under the safety from the start and pull back, making it impossible for the safety to activate as my thumb is under the left side and the offhand pointer finger is holding the safety from the right side. Ive never had an accidental safety activation happen when manipulating it this way.

Nobody dictates what I carry, so, I'll stick with G only. I also have Glocks and 1911s i Carry... Glock works. Good 1911 works. Beretta 92 series works. All of them work... As long as I'm willing to work.

[Sigfan26]

Carried one (mil) for 20 years...just no interest in having one now.

I enjoy the system.

[Lomshek]

I guess I'm the weirdo who always carries with safety engaged (when I carried a slide mounted safety DA/SA).

Just seems like asking for the safety to get activated inadvertently during carry and then being surprised that it is on safe and I have a dead trigger when I least want it.

[GJM]

Depends.

Prefer to use it as a decocker when carrying.

However, a 92 is in the drawer of the nightstand next to my head, with the safety on. Using the method taught by Ernest, I flick the safety down like a 1911, as I draw/present.

[Hambo]

I have large hands so it's not difficult for me to thumb the lever up, but I only use it as a decocker. In fact, my JMCK holster is formed in such a way that the 92 has to be carried with the lever in the fire position.

[fixer]

99% of the time it is a decocker. The 1% is for the situations where you may need an extra administrative layer to go through.

[Kyle Reese]

I've got a 92G, but regularly train up students issued with the 92FS. They're trained to use it as a decocker and not a safety. IMO a manual safety is dubious feature, at best, on a service DA/SA handgun.


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[Clobbersaurus]

Depends.

Prefer to use it as a decocker when carrying.

However, a 92 is in the drawer of the nightstand next to my head, with the safety on. Using the method taught by Ernest, I flick the safety down like a 1911, as I draw/present.

The method I use as well. Earnest should to do a video, there is only one very badly made video out there explaining it.

One question I have for you though, are you not worried that you'll miss the safety on your night stand gun, should you need to use it and have a dead trigger? It's happened to me multiple times during dry fire because I've got so much time on a G. I'm just now getting through entire sessions without an error. I've never had that problem when I've transitioned to a 1911 style safety.

[Lyonsgrid]

FS guns - Decock, safety off, holster.
I run left side only levers on all my 92's.

[BigT]

After Todd mentioned being able to push the safety down like a 1911 , I've played around with that a little. I would be tempted to carry a 92 on safe.

[El Cid]

I'll continue the dog pile... I use it as a decocker only. That's how I learned in the Air Force.

I don't have anything against safeties so long as they are frame mounted and move down to disengage (think Hi-Power and 1911).

[Clobbersaurus]

Swiping down/forward with the Beretta Safety is the way to do it....

Very poor quality video, regarding the use of the Beretta safety:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0VxLkqm--U

And thoughts by Paul Gomez (around the 2:15 mark):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9GdorjSbEE

[45dotACP]

Swiping down/forward with the Beretta Safety is the way to do it....

Very poor quality video, regarding the use of the Beretta safety:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0VxLkqm--U

And thoughts by Paul Gomez (around the 2:15 mark):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9GdorjSbEE

Great videos. Especially the one with Gomez.

[GJM]

The method I use as well. Earnest should to do a video, there is only one very badly made video out there explaining it.

One question I have for you though, are you not worried that you'll miss the safety on your night stand gun, should you need to use it and have a dead trigger? It's happened to me multiple times during dry fire because I've got so much time on a G. I'm just now getting through entire sessions without an error. I've never had that problem when I've transitioned to a 1911 style safety.

this is a quick (7 seconds filmed in Sportsmans Warehouse) video I did on the "Ernest method" for PF some months back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vhKmrdOyAI

If I could guarantee this bed stand gun would 100 percent only be fired by me, I would leave it with the safety off. Since I obviously can't guarantee that, given the nature of a "bed stand" gun, I feel like the safety is a reasonable trade off. I could have stuck a G model there and elected to use a FS because of the safety. With a FS, I assume the safety will be on, in the worst time possible, and train to disengage it regardless of its position.

[Suvorov]

I carried and shot the Beretta for years with the safety on. Never had a problem taking the safety off and always considered it an extra level of safety that I was able to train to use correctly. I used the thumb sweep method as described above so it worked well with both the Beretta and the Browning HP.

As I started to shoot SIGs and other guns without manual safeties, I decided to switch to using the safety as a decock only, around that time I picked up my Beretta 92G Elite so it made sense to me.

A couple years ago I made the decision to store my bedside 92 with the safety on as one more small level of protection in the event my toddler gained access to the vault (I realize this has been already discussed on the forum and many SMEs opine it is of limited value).