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LittleLebowski
01-03-2015, 10:52 AM
As seen here.

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Kyle Reese
01-03-2015, 10:53 AM
I'd be interested in a 17 Gen 4 MOS.

LSP552
01-03-2015, 11:35 AM
I'd be interested in a 17 Gen 4 MOS.

Add me to that list!

Up1911Fan
01-03-2015, 11:39 AM
I like the idea, but it appears to use different plates for optics's similar to the CORE. Wondering if it would just be better to have the slide milled for the optic from L&M instead?

SeriousStudent
01-03-2015, 12:44 PM
I'd be interested in a 17 Gen 4 MOS.

Much agree with you and LSP552. My eyes are not getting younger.

JSGlock34
01-03-2015, 01:02 PM
No surprise that Glock released models to compete with the S&W CORE. I suppose they're aiming these for the competition market since they started with the 34/35, but I'd prefer to see a 17/19 with this option. The optic takes sight radius - one of the benefits of the longer 34/35 slide - out of the equation. At that point, I'd prefer the standard length slide.

My red dot experiment lasted two years before I moved firmly back to irons, but it is nice to see Glock offer a factory option. Will be curious to see prices. The picture also appears to show standard height sights - Glock should offer these with the suppressor height Ameriglos found on their new threaded barrel lineup.

JSGlock34
01-03-2015, 01:12 PM
Looks like 10mm and .45 models too...

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Kyle Reese
01-03-2015, 01:13 PM
The 10mm looks like a promising hunting pistol.

TCinVA
01-03-2015, 01:16 PM
An optics ready G34 intrigues me. Might have to see about getting one.

Clusterfrack
01-03-2015, 01:57 PM
Awesome! I would be interested in a G17 size gun as well.

It's odd that the guns don't come with suppressor height sights.

LittleLebowski
01-03-2015, 02:09 PM
An optics ready G34 intrigues me. Might have to see about getting one.

Isn't your debit card cooling down on dry ice right now? :D

GJM
01-03-2015, 03:41 PM
I wish they did the 17/22, as the sight radius benefit of the 34/35 seems moot with an optic.

LOKNLOD
01-03-2015, 03:54 PM
Based on the pic, the G40 is a longer slide than the 41. Like G17L length not 34/35/41.

LittleLebowski
01-03-2015, 04:17 PM
It's odd that the guns don't come with suppressor height sights.

Indeed. So obvious that I didn't notice it.

runcible
01-03-2015, 04:38 PM
While I believe that MRDS-equipped pistols should have (and preferably come with) suppressor sights, I wonder if Glock was worried about holster conflicts if they deviated from the norm. Not an issue with minimalist comp rigs, I suppose.

JV_
01-03-2015, 04:43 PM
They'd be plastic suppressor sights, most wouldn't keep them anyway.

JR1572
01-03-2015, 05:39 PM
Are these available with LE pricing? I wonder how much more they will be than a plain G4 34/35?

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JSGlock34
01-03-2015, 05:41 PM
My understanding is that the recent Glock suppressor ready pistols that come from the factory with threaded barrels use Ameriglo suppressor sights, and not plastic Glock placeholders.


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Savage Hands
01-03-2015, 05:55 PM
I'd be interested in a 17 Gen 4 MOS.

Yes!

TCinVA
01-03-2015, 06:36 PM
Isn't your debit card cooling down on dry ice right now? :D

I still have a spare kidney.

JV_
01-03-2015, 06:38 PM
My understanding is that the recent Glock suppressor ready pistols that come from the factory with threaded barrels use Ameriglo suppressor sights, and not plastic Glock placeholders

Thanks, I must have missed that.

JSGlock34
01-03-2015, 07:35 PM
I guess I'm more surprised that Glock didn't add the suppressor height sights as standard considering...

A) Their major market segment competitor, the M&P CORE, comes with suppressor height sights.
B) They already have Ameriglos available at the factory.

Perhaps they'll be an option - there's still a lot to learn about this MOS series, particularly the adapter system for mounting, and price. Still, glad to see Glock making some smart decisions, like dropping the 'C' series compensated pistols and devoting some production capacity to something like an optics ready pistol.

ETA: Saw one dealer advertise a price of $699 (presumably for the G34/G35 model). That's not much of a premium over a standard G34/G35 (and would keep them competitive with the CORE).

DocGKR
01-04-2015, 09:15 AM
There are some high round count, real world, non-competitive shooters who use slide mounted RDS equipped pistols with longer slides like the G34/G35 so the WML lens does not get as covered with soot. Perhaps this is also a factor...

Jay Cunningham
01-04-2015, 09:26 AM
I can see me picking up a G34 MOS and making that my primary home defense weapon.

GJM
01-04-2015, 10:11 AM
There are some high round count, real world, non-competitive shooters who use slide mounted RDS equipped pistols with longer slides like the G34/G35 so the WML lens does not get as covered with soot. Perhaps this is also a factor...

That sounds sensible if you thought those guys were going to buy enough to matter. I bet a dollar, though, that Glock marketing saw the 9L CORE and said we can do that. CORE, "competition optics ready equipment" has always stuck me as an intetesting name given how little competing is done with a slide mounted optic.

Lost River
01-04-2015, 10:56 AM
Personally I am pleased to see the new models. Glock has been pretty stagnant for some time. That longslide 10mm looks like it would be a killer outdoorsman sidearm, for both general purpose use, as well as handgun hunting.

I've been seriously contemplating divesting myself of 10mm/40 guns and scaling back to just .45 and 9mm. The newer G41 has been calling me as a replacement for my G35. However I still have 20k rounds of projectiles set back in .40 cal that I should probably burn through first.

I agree with many here that an optics ready G17 and G19 have merit, and I would be willing to bet that they are in the not too distant future provided the current models do well.

I am curious to see if any specialized units will take a serious look at these new models, as the the potential for practical application is evident.

DocGKR
01-04-2015, 11:29 AM
Specialized units are already using optics equipped precursors to these models...

GJM
01-04-2015, 01:18 PM
Specialized units are already using optics equipped precursors to these models...

Understood, and presumably they have had no problem getting them. The questions I have are:

How the Glock mount will compare to direct mounting or the Atom.

Will these guys replace their existing pistols with OEM ones.

Will there be some halo effect causing others to buy a 34/35 as an optics platform.

Lost River
01-04-2015, 01:35 PM
Specialized units are already using optics equipped precursors to these models...


I was aware of some using custom modified stuff, but not to what extent.

jetfire
01-04-2015, 02:23 PM
I wonder why manufacturers even bother having media sign NDAs when their new product is just going to get leaked by some 9.00 an hour guy working at a gun shop. But it's bloggers than can't be trusted, riiiiiiiight. /rant

On the actual topic, the 10mm intrigues me.

HopetonBrown
01-04-2015, 04:23 PM
What gun game would these even be legal for? You'd get stomped on in Open with a Glock.

From my Motorola StarTAC.

joshs
01-04-2015, 04:37 PM
What gun game would these even be legal for? You'd get stomped on in Open with a Glock.

From my Motorola StarTAC.

Open in 3 gun or most informal steel matches. I've also heard that USPSA is considering a Production Optics division.


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Palmguy
01-04-2015, 04:52 PM
I can see me picking up a G34 MOS and making that my primary home defense weapon.

Same here.

GJM
01-04-2015, 05:34 PM
Thinking about this, I can see benefits to the 35, even with an optic, as the 35 handles .40 better. I have also not heard much chatter of G35 problems with .40, unlike in the shorter barrel length models.

ranger
01-04-2015, 05:57 PM
I think this is very timely as there are a wave of aging shooters with aging eyes who struggle to see iron sights. I wear mono vision contacts so that I can see the sights and the targets with my 54 year old eyes - if I had a "dot", I might not need the special contact prescription.

I think it interesting how "racy" equipment from USPSA Open has slowly but surely become part of service and carry firearms such as the optics.

vcdgrips
01-04-2015, 06:03 PM
As a long time G35 user ( March 05 to date/22k rounds over 2 pistols /20k and 2 k), I am extremely intrigued with a factory backed G34/35/41 optic ready pistol. The gen 4 was not enough of a change to bump me off my braces of G34s and G35s. This development might very well.

GJM
01-04-2015, 06:24 PM
While a factory ready optics slide is good, I think the real opportunity is in optics. Making the optic more reliable, resistant to weather, and most importantly -- a display that allows the shooter to acquire the dot easier and plain shoot better.

Wendell
01-05-2015, 11:39 AM
Awesome! I would be interested in a G17 size gun as well.

It's odd that the guns don't come with suppressor height sights.

Isn't Glock just trying to keep the cost down? Don't most of us prefer to replace most stock pistol sights with our favorite brand and type of sights?

Not wanting to pay more for something I'm probably going to take off anyway, I like the way Glock does it, with cheap "dovetail protectors" (as KH puts it).

LOKNLOD
01-05-2015, 12:03 PM
While a factory ready optics slide is good, I think the real opportunity is in optics. Making the optic more reliable, resistant to weather, and most importantly -- a display that allows the shooter to acquire the dot easier and plain shoot better.

Factory RDS Glocks on shelves in stores will hopefully help breach a whole new market of people who would have never sought out custom work to have a slide milled, which will hopefully open up the market for further development of RDS themselves.

Chuck Whitlock
01-05-2015, 02:34 PM
Awesome! I would be interested in a G17 size gun as well.

It's odd that the guns don't come with suppressor height sights.

I'm curious if HD sights might be "taller enough" to be usable through the optic without going full suppressor height?

TR675
01-05-2015, 04:03 PM
Factory RDS Glocks on shelves in stores will hopefully help breach a whole new market of people who would have never sought out custom work to have a slide milled, which will hopefully open up the market for further development of RDS themselves.

Yup. Between the CORE and these I think we're set to see serious interest in RDS equipped pistols.

Question - I would expect that RDS's are helpful to new shooters. Is that correct?

JSGlock34
01-05-2015, 07:13 PM
Question - I would expect that RDS's are helpful to new shooters. Is that correct?

I wouldn't say that this study closes the book on this subject, but it suggests that a RDS is useful for new shooters. That said, in my experience a pistol mounted RDS is significantly slower than irons (whether for new or experienced shooters), and this study does not address speed.

Norwich University Study On Trijicon RMR Vs Pistol Iron Sights (http://soldiersystems.net/2014/03/07/norwich-university-study-trijicon-rmr-vs-pistol-iron-sights/)

Failure2Stop
01-05-2015, 08:10 PM
Want 41 or 21 with threaded barrel and dot for quiet night-time stuff.
Kinda wish that they had done the 17/19 sized guns first.

SLG
01-05-2015, 08:15 PM
Thinking about this, I can see benefits to the 35, even with an optic, as the 35 handles .40 better. I have also not heard much chatter of G35 problems with .40, unlike in the shorter barrel length models.

You may not hear about them, but I assure you, the problems are there.

edited to add...after reading it again, it sounded snarky to me. Not intended that way at all.

saints75
01-19-2015, 03:06 PM
I saw the pictures of the Optic Ready Glocks from Shot Show's Media Day. ITS Tactical did a quick run down of them. According to ITS, you can fit any type of red dot sight on it. According to the pictures the Glocks come with the same plastic sights. I guess you will have to invest in some good sights too. Here is the link if you are interested.
http://www.itstactical.com/centcom/news/shot-show-2015-media-day-live-coverage/

dookie1481
01-19-2015, 06:36 PM
I shot one today at Media Day. It is likely to suffer from the same wandering zero issues as the M&P CORE, as the optic still held to the adapter plate by two screws.

Funny, as the CORE I shot today lost zero as well :D

Savage Hands
01-19-2015, 07:00 PM
Glock has an interactive site for them now:
http://us.glock.com/mos?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=post%2B012015&utm_campaign=mos-social

Jay Cunningham
01-22-2015, 11:07 AM
I wonder if custom milling is still the best solution?

JHC
01-22-2015, 12:21 PM
I wonder if custom milling is still the best solution?

Me too. And does the MOS configured Glock make that any easier for the optic mounting specialty shops?

dookie1481
01-23-2015, 01:10 AM
I wonder if custom milling is still the best solution?

Until adapter plates fill in the space between the optic and the slide, I would say yes.

What kills me about this is that it would probably only cost a few bucks more to make an adapter plate that would hug the optic body to prevent this exact problem.

dookie1481
01-23-2015, 01:11 AM
Me too. And does the MOS configured Glock make that any easier for the optic mounting specialty shops?

Some shop could probably make some money by making plates for these that will keep the optic in place.

JSGlock34
01-30-2015, 07:20 PM
These are already showing up in shops and on Gunbroker...