This is interdasting...... [Archive]

Totem Polar

11-24-2014, 11:30 AM

It's an eyesore, true, but I am a fan of 3" 5-shooters. If it shoots to POA, I could see overlooking its tuna fish profile in order to have an expendable alternative to my beloved 1976 36-1 for knocking around.

Interesting indeed.

Hizzie

11-24-2014, 11:32 AM

Hopefully this is Ruger testing the waters for a full sized combat tupperware revolver. A 3-4" poly Security Six in 357 would be awesome.

LSP972

11-24-2014, 11:37 AM

Can Ruger revolvers get any uglier?

My thought exactly.

And since my sole interest in a small revolver is for secondary/BUG/pocket use, the extra barrel and grip length here defeats that purpose.

But I can see where this one would be a great shooter...

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Totem Polar

11-24-2014, 11:51 AM

Hopefully this is Ruger testing the waters for a full sized combat tupperware revolver. A 3-4" poly Security Six in 357 would be awesome.

I will echo this, and repeat my request for a 3" 5-shot DAO .44 special with slightly scaled up LCR frame and lockwork.

A bulldog with the attributes of a postmodern flexing, lightweight poly frame, and even smoother camming trigger geometry would be compelling. Welcome to the new 70s...

Dagga Boy

11-24-2014, 12:25 PM

Hopefully this is Ruger testing the waters for a full sized combat tupperware revolver. A 3-4" poly Security Six in 357 would be awesome.

Ditto. That gun as a 6 shot (or 7) would make a great nightstand gun for most of America. Especially with the laser.

Hizzie

11-24-2014, 12:32 PM

Especially with the laser.

Fire the "laser"!

Malamute

11-24-2014, 12:48 PM

Can Ruger revolvers get any uglier?

The first thought I had was WHOA!!! Then, "Why didn't I buy that 4" Smith 25-5 a few years ago for $225?"

Totally different purposes, but I think it was a knee jerk self defensive reaction to seeing that Ruger

GK17

11-24-2014, 03:46 PM

Thinking the next ones out will be LCR9s with & without the x. The "Latest & Greatest" half-life of handguns is catching up with electronic devices for shortness of duration.

JonInWA

11-24-2014, 04:34 PM

With only a 5 shot capacity, I think I'd just choose a 3" SP101, or, better yet, a 6-shot 3" GP100 with the old Letts compact grip...

Best, Jon

Jeep

11-24-2014, 05:46 PM

The first thought I had was WHOA!!! Then, "Why didn't I buy that 4" Smith 25-5 a few years ago for $225?"

Totally different purposes, but I think it was a knee jerk self defensive reaction to seeing that Ruger

You had a chance to buy a 4" Smith 25-5 a few years ago for $225 and you didn't do it? How have you managed to sleep at night since then? At least tell us that you used the money for, say, a NIB Python or something like that!

Maple Syrup Actual

11-24-2014, 06:50 PM

I have to admit, that gun is so ugly I'm almost glad they're prohibited up here.

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Malamute

11-24-2014, 07:30 PM

You had a chance to buy a 4" Smith 25-5 a few years ago for $225 and you didn't do it? How have you managed to sleep at night since then? At least tell us that you used the money for, say, a NIB Python or something like that!

Well,...um,... it seemed like an OK decision at the time. Part of the reason I wish I'd bought it was that it used to be owned by a guy I knew, it was one of his mountain guns. Anyway, I checked it with some new brass, it was pretty easy to get the rims under the extractor star, which I had heard could be a problem with the 45 Colt guns. Loose chambers seemed to contribute, as well as the tiny rims on 45 Colt shells. I also had a couple perfectly good 29's, one of which has gone many miles with me. It bothers me more as time goes on though that I didn't buy it. I did end up buying a nice Smith 24 a few years later though.

Jeep

11-25-2014, 01:25 PM

Well,...um,... it seemed like an OK decision at the time. Part of the reason I wish I'd bought it was that it used to be owned by a guy I knew, it was one of his mountain guns. Anyway, I checked it with some new brass, it was pretty easy to get the rims under the extractor star, which I had heard could be a problem with the 45 Colt guns. Loose chambers seemed to contribute, as well as the tiny rims on 45 Colt shells. I also had a couple perfectly good 29's, one of which has gone many miles with me. It bothers me more as time goes on though that I didn't buy it. I did end up buying a nice Smith 24 a few years later though.

Well . . . at least that Smith 24 redeems you. In fact, where I live they are far harder to find than 25's (which aren't easy).

Dagga Boy

11-25-2014, 05:33 PM

If it's a 4" 24, I ll swap you a 25-5 so you can feel redeemed...:cool:

Malamute

11-25-2014, 06:48 PM

It is a 4" 24. I love it though. Its about my favorite all around general carry gun when I don't need the 29.

Al T.

11-25-2014, 08:26 PM

.22 Magnum would be very, very interesting.

Chuck Haggard

11-25-2014, 08:51 PM

.22 Magnum would be very, very interesting.

Especially if they unkittened themselves and made it a 7 or 8 shooters instead of being a 6 shooter

45dotACP

11-26-2014, 12:40 AM

What would be interesting is if there were no hammer. I personally believe the LCRx line should have never been born and that this 3" gun should have come as an outgrowth of the regular LCR line.

Wheeler

11-26-2014, 07:53 AM

Especially if they unkittened themselves and made it a 7 or 8 shooters instead of being a 6 shooter

I can't quite fathom why the .22 is an 8 shot and the .22 Mag is a 6 shot.

Drang

11-27-2014, 09:13 PM

Am I weird for wanting it a 6-shot in .327 Federal?

Dagga Boy

11-27-2014, 09:55 PM

Am I weird for wanting it a 6-shot in .327 Federal?

Yes...........and that is from the weird gun king.

Tamara

11-27-2014, 10:02 PM

Am I weird for wanting it a 6-shot in .327 Federal?

Then I'm weird, too.

Chuck Haggard

11-28-2014, 04:15 AM

Then I'm weird, too.

Me three.......

Wheeler

11-28-2014, 06:26 AM

Me three.......

Me four.

jetfire

11-28-2014, 01:08 PM

I can't quite fathom why the .22 is an 8 shot and the .22 Mag is a 6 shot.

I've been told that it's because of chamber pressure - a .22 Mag out of a pistol is operating at a higher pressure than a .38 Special +P. You have to cut those walls awful thin to fit 8 .22s in a cylinder that small, and maybe trying to squeeze 8 rounds in there that are operating damn near 9mm levels makes Ruger's engineers a little squicky.

jh9

11-28-2014, 01:39 PM

The 38s use the same speedloaders are the sp101. I assume the cylinder diameters are if not the same at least similar?

I wouldn't mind a .22 mag with the heavier non-tapered cylinder if they got at least 87 of them in there...

Wheeler

11-28-2014, 02:54 PM

I've been told that it's because of chamber pressure - a .22 Mag out of a pistol is operating at a higher pressure than a .38 Special +P. You have to cut those walls awful thin to fit 8 .22s in a cylinder that small, and maybe trying to squeeze 8 rounds in there that are operating damn near 9mm levels makes Ruger's engineers a little squicky.

I was running on the assumption that there wouldn't be much difference in wall thickness between the .357 Mag chambers in a five shot and the .22 Mag chambers in an 8 shot.
If anyone has a .22 version and would be willing to measure the wall thickness between chambers I'd be happy to measure my .38 just to satisfy curiosity.

Al T.

11-28-2014, 08:49 PM

Got two at the store. I'll try and remember as I "work" there tomorrow. ;)

Chuck Haggard

11-29-2014, 04:20 AM

Everything I have seen shows the .22lr and .22mag to be at the same pressures.

Bigghoss

12-06-2014, 11:13 AM

It would be even more interesting as a 22lr.

Agreed.

Hopefully this is Ruger testing the waters for a full sized combat tupperware revolver. A 3-4" poly Security Six in 357 would be awesome.

I would like to see that.

I will echo this, and repeat my request for a 3" 5-shot DAO .44 special with slightly scaled up LCR frame and lockwork.

A bulldog with the attributes of a postmodern flexing, lightweight poly frame, and even smoother camming trigger geometry would be compelling. Welcome to the new 70s...

I'd like to see this in .45acp cut for moon clips.

.22 Magnum would be very, very interesting.

Especially if they unkittened themselves and made it a 7 or 8 shooters instead of being a 6 shooter

Would like to see this also.

Hizzie

12-10-2014, 03:24 PM

LGS has one. $439. Liked the grip. The cylinder release needs to be bigger. Trigger was light but not smooth.

Im51504ID

01-01-2015, 04:02 PM

Especially if they unkittened themselves and made it a 7 or 8 shooters instead of being a 6 shooter

Yeah, didn't understand that, since Smith already had theirs out in 7 shot. :confused:

.22 Mag in some of the new defense loadings make a 7 shot revolver look pretty viable for a recoil sensitive person to use for HD/CCW.

Im51504ID

01-01-2015, 04:08 PM

Hopefully this is Ruger testing the waters for a full sized combat tupperware revolver. A 3-4" poly Security Six in 357 would be awesome.

Whoa. THAT would be interesting...... My Security Six/Speed Sixes are treasured favorites. But a lightweight one would be really cool.

Don't know if there's enough market for a medium frame .357 for them to do it though.... but there should be.....

1986s4

01-02-2015, 09:27 AM

I'm a revolver guy too. Part of the appeal of a good DA revolver is the classic good looks. Like my 3" M13, 4" M686, etc. But since Ruger is dispensing with steel and making a good portion of the thing out of polymer then I guess they get to decide what it looks like. A lightweight 6 shot, 3" carry revolver would seem to fill a void, especially since S&W won't make any more.

Chuck Haggard

01-02-2015, 09:54 AM

I'd really like to see a hard use modern construction/materials wheelgun, something that can be field stripped like my Security Six, and that can better withstand things like dust, sand and getting dunked than the older revolvers.

Totem Polar

01-02-2015, 01:38 PM

^^^Where's the "thumbs up" icon? I think there is plenty of agreement about this on P-F.com; we just need to work on Ruger.com.

As an aside, I got to fondle one of these beasts at my LGS over the holidays. With the barrel and OEM grip as provided by Ruger, it's definitely a bigger envelope than an SP101--I see no real carry advantage over, say, my old 2" model 12. The 3" LCR is a *lot * bulkier than my 3" 36-1 in carry trim, albeit way lighter.

The advantage to the whole concept is making a given platform (eg. 5-shot snub) lighter, cheaper. Do that with a 6 or 7 shot gun, sure. But making a 5-shot bigger is an answer in search of a question.
JMO.