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QuickStrike
07-21-2016, 01:08 PM
Got one today. Forgot I had an aimpoint laying around. Took the light and sling from an AK. :D
https://i.imgur.com/1mQO4DK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OJZrEyG.jpg
disregard the above set up. Thorntail offset mount bumps against the front of the receiver near the QD socket, so it isn't truely parallel with the pic rail. Normal mount for the mini scout light puts it way too far back, tape switch ain't long enough to reach the forward grip.
Took the light off.
Then it was pointed out to me by The AUG guru that the aimpoint is sitting kinda high. He's right! So I ordered a bobro mount for the comp M4s.
Perfect height. Only one problem.
The low battery compartment on my comp M4S gets in the way of the Bobro locking mech, and if I turned the mount the other way, my delicate knuckles would be mauled when working the charging handle.
Thoroughly frustrated. I will now retreat back to my AR's. Will just put the red dot and light on the 6920 and play with that for a while.
Dagga Boy
07-21-2016, 01:33 PM
You have he shorter rail that is a little tough with the Comp M4. I use the Aimpoint LRP on my M4S equipped AUG. I have a T2 on the AUG I shoot most of the time, and the Micro is a better option on that short rail. The Comp M4 will be stellar on the 6920.
You can see with my house AUG that the longer rail of the A3 gives more room for the M4.
QuickStrike
07-21-2016, 02:50 PM
^Makes sense. I will be saving up for a T1 or T2 and work around that.
edit: Thanks! :)
Dagga Boy
07-21-2016, 02:53 PM
Also, the lint in the above picture is now on my T2 equipped AUG and I am using a Surefire AA battery Scout light on the house gun with the Comp M4. Replace batteries annually on the light an optic.
Wondering Beard
07-21-2016, 03:40 PM
Is it possible to retrofit the longer A3 rail on the new M1s?
Wondering Beard
07-21-2016, 06:57 PM
Not the A3 (non-M1) rail itself as the receivers are different, but you can switch to the longer higher rail for the M1:
https://steyrarms.com/accessories/aug/aug-a3m1-long-high-picatinny-rail.html
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Hmm.
It's hard to tell from the photo, is it as long as the A3 rail?
Wondering Beard
07-22-2016, 09:41 AM
Hmm. So there's not much room on there. Enough for an optic and that's it?
Poconnor
07-23-2016, 09:29 PM
Got my AUG set up with a T1 and a scout light. I just need to throw a sling on. Time to go shoot.
K.O.A.M.
08-09-2016, 12:56 PM
Hmm. So there's not much room on there. Enough for an optic and that's it?
I was able to put an Aimpoint M4 and a Viking Tactics sling mount on my short rail. It works fine for me, but not a lot of room for anything else.
JodyH
08-20-2016, 06:18 PM
Got my short rail A3-M1 setup and out to the range.
Aimpoint T2 2moa in a DD fixed mount out on the front of the rail.
Was an awesome setup while it lasted.
The Aimpoint took a crap after less than 100 rounds... damn my luck.
Only I can screw up one of the toughest sights on the planet.
The replacement will be here Tuesday and I'll try it again.
I need to get my AUG rhythm down because I have a 3-gun match to shoot it in next weekend.
:cool:
JodyH
08-20-2016, 07:15 PM
The 2020 Precision Sear Mod TSM (http://www.ratworxusa.com/product.20-tsm-auga3?source=search) is a worthy AUG trigger modification.
It takes away some of the pre-travel mush and shortens the reset while maintaining enough trigger weight to give you plenty of "margin for error".
JodyH
08-20-2016, 07:52 PM
One last thing, the Plate Design ACEM speed loader (http://plate-design.com/collections/acem-magazine-loaders/products/acem-ag-f-30-gen-4) is the shiznet for loading AUG magazines.
It zips 30+12 into the big mags super fast and easy.
Here's a vid of the AR mag loader in action, but their AUG version works the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBtXj2fwxZY
ReverendMeat
08-20-2016, 08:03 PM
Speaking of AUG trigger mods, I totally expect to get shit on for this but I went full Bubba and I'm not even sorry:
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BarryinIN
08-20-2016, 08:33 PM
I guess I'm one of the few who is OK with the stock AUG trigger. It's not as good as my Walther 10 meter match air rifle, but I can whack steel to 300 which is more in line with what I need and expect from it. I don't shoot a stock AR any better.
JodyH
08-21-2016, 10:04 AM
Current state of the AUG while I await my replacement Aimpoint Micro.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160821/d0d87659117d3aa941bff29c37e31737.jpg
JodyH
08-24-2016, 10:13 AM
Stocked up on office supplies for the day.
Cloudy, cool, perfect weather for all kinds of weirdness down around Lobo, Tx.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160824/776e3d2ee70b2f2163a844c56cfeed3a.jpg
sharps54
08-25-2016, 06:43 PM
Pics like that really make me wonder why I didn't just buy an AUG instead of sinking money into SBRs...
JodyH
08-25-2016, 07:06 PM
Pics like that really make me wonder why I didn't just buy an AUG instead of sinking money into SBRs...
I have a 10.5" SBR LMT with a Law Tactical side folding stock that i've spent an ungodly amount of money on and it's only about 1.5" shorter (stock folded to the side) than the 16" barreled AUG is ready to rock.
The AUG is 10x better handling around the house and in vehicles, has significantly better ballistics, no travel restrictions and reliable 42 round magazines.
I feel stupid for spending all that SBR money when I could have dumped it into AUGs years ago.
:p
sharps54
08-25-2016, 09:44 PM
I have a 10.5" SBR LMT with a Law Tactical side folding stock that i've spent an ungodly amount of money on and it's only about 1.5" shorter (stock folded to the side) than the 16" barreled AUG is ready to rock.
The AUG is 10x better handling around the house and in vehicles, has significantly better ballistics, no travel restrictions and reliable 42 round magazines.
I feel stupid for spending all that SBR money when I could have dumped it into AUGs years ago.
:p
I'm probably not in as deep as you even though I have two, a Stag Arms 11.5" SBR and a "Frankengun" 8.5" .300 BO. Actually I'm well behind because I don't have an AUG at the moment! It has to wait until I replace our home's roof, hopefully they won't be banned by then...
Beat Trash
08-26-2016, 10:37 AM
I have a 10.5" SBR LMT with a Law Tactical side folding stock that i've spent an ungodly amount of money on and it's only about 1.5" shorter (stock folded to the side) than the 16" barreled AUG is ready to rock.
The AUG is 10x better handling around the house and in vehicles, has significantly better ballistics, no travel restrictions and reliable 42 round magazines.
I feel stupid for spending all that SBR money when I could have dumped it into AUGs years ago.
:p
These pictures and what I have gleamed from the pages in this topic has my attention for a travel gun, which for me is something more compact than one of my AR's and that can be deployed in tight spaces (vehicles) without prior assemble. Couple of questions though:
Do you have a light on the AUG in your picture? For a right hander, where would you put one, on the right side rail and use a tape switch?
Does your left thumb (non-dominant) ever get burned by touching the barrel or gas piston tube protruding over the barrel?
If you could hit the re-do button and not have gone down the SBR money pit, would you stay with the standard AUG or go with a NATO stock AUG? I ask this question as I have a substantial amount of AR type magazines, as well as a sizable amount of AR's. If I bought an AUG, magazine capability would be nice.
fatdog
08-26-2016, 11:37 AM
standard AUG or go with a NATO stock AUG? ...magazine capability would be nice.
FWIW, I bought the newest (at the time) factory NATO stock version NIB in early 2015, I don't have a log for the gun, but at least 1500+ rounds down range and never an issue wrt reliability, but I did find some types of polymer mags did not fit or lock in well. The bulk of my magazine stockpile are standard aluminum 30 round AR types, and it seems to get along fine with all of those and I quit trying the others.
JodyH
08-26-2016, 11:56 AM
These pictures and what I have gleamed from the pages in this topic has my attention for a travel gun, which for me is something more compact than one of my AR's and that can be deployed in tight spaces (vehicles) without prior assemble. Couple of questions though:
Do you have a light on the AUG in your picture? For a right hander, where would you put one, on the right side rail and use a tape switch?
Does your left thumb (non-dominant) ever get burned by touching the barrel or gas piston tube protruding over the barrel?
If you could hit the re-do button and not have gone down the SBR money pit, would you stay with the standard AUG or go with a NATO stock AUG? I ask this question as I have a substantial amount of AR type magazines, as well as a sizable amount of AR's. If I bought an AUG, magazine capability would be nice.
I added a Surefire Scout M300 to the angled right side rail, no tape switch (I hate tape switches).
Indexed trigger finger momentary activates light for search, see target, finger clicks light on continuous, finger disengages safety, shoot, finger comes off trigger, thumb pushes safety on, indexed trigger finger turns light off.
Zero chance of screwing up and squeezing the trigger instead of the light switch, no flaky shorted out tape switches, no tape switch wires hanging on stuff or melting.
Never had an issue with anything contacting hot parts on the AUG. I burn myself more often on the hot front sight tower of a carbine length AR.
Standard AUG hands down.
The Steyr mags are awesome, especially the 42 rounders. Some of the best polymer magazines I've handled (right up there with my H&K MR762 mags).
If you're so inclined, Magpul is now making AUG mags.
The NATO stock doesn't have an external bolt release, you have to run the charging handle on reloads.
JodyH
08-26-2016, 12:04 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160826/355c2b5bf57cbf58412813e66e27949a.jpg
Beat Trash
08-26-2016, 07:34 PM
Thanks Jody, that helps a lot.
Has anyone heard from pj when the anniversary guns are shipping? I have a friend who has one on order, need to get him down here so I can shoot it.
MD7305
08-26-2016, 09:46 PM
Saw this pic on Trijicon's bookface page (not sure how to link it?). Figured you guys would appreciate it, looks like a perfect AUG application. After all that is an Alliance OH PD guy, probably well trained at Hawaii of the Midwest.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160827/f44fd5bacafb70678740fb3d7eb52354.jpg
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So if someone was going to buy an AUG today, what model would they get? Steyr optic or rail, what is this future ACOG thing for the AUG?
Willard
08-26-2016, 10:28 PM
Saw this pic on Trijicon's bookface page (not sure how to link it?). Figured you guys would appreciate it, looks like a perfect AUG application. After all that is an Alliance OH PD guy, probably well trained at Hawaii of the Midwest.
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Didn't get the "Hawaii of Midwest" expression (interested to hear if you are so inclined), but of course he is well trained. He also has a 1911 which automatically equates to skill even in the absence of training. :)
MD7305
08-26-2016, 10:58 PM
Didn't get the "Hawaii of Midwest" expression (interested to hear if you are so inclined), but of course he is well trained. He also has a 1911 which automatically equates to skill even in the absence of training. :)
The late, great Pat Rogers referred to Alliance PD training facility as "Hawaii of the Midwest." Alliance Training facility = Mecca for quality training.
Willard
08-26-2016, 11:13 PM
The late, great Pat Rogers referred to Alliance PD training facility as "Hawaii of the Midwest." Alliance Training facility = Mecca for quality training.
Thanks. Sounds like a switched on agency.
Dagga Boy
08-27-2016, 11:06 AM
AUG's are near perfect for K9's. I know a lot of trackers specifically liked them because they are often going to kneeling checking spoor and they are easy to handle in that role.
Also for GJM, the Austrians like running the 3x with an Aimpoint on top. Shown is a M3, currently they are using Micro's with the JagdKommandos.
1slow
08-27-2016, 12:45 PM
nyeti,
What is the best variation of the current AUG ? Thanks.
nyeti,
What is the best variation of the current AUG ? Thanks.
I just hung up with Darryl and Pete Athens. Both said, without the OEM optic, that the long rail was more useful, as it gives you flexibility of where you mount a dot, BUIS and a LPV. I believe it is a "M1."
SteveB
08-27-2016, 03:22 PM
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/580415540
LOKNLOD
08-27-2016, 05:06 PM
Shown is a M3, currently they are using Micro's with the JagdKommandos.
They need to find smaller jockeys for the dog-cavalry.
https://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10131&stc=1&d=1472313925
K.O.A.M.
08-29-2016, 10:16 AM
Has anyone heard from pj when the anniversary guns are shipping? I have a friend who has one on order, need to get him down here so I can shoot it.
I emailed him a couple weeks ago to see if he wanted the funds and never heard back. I will probably reach out again this week.
JSGlock34
09-05-2016, 09:24 PM
Got my AUG A3 out of the back of the safe this weekend. For an optic I've been using a Leopold CQ/T that I got from a buddy - it seems to compliment the AUG well enough (and it will do at least until nyeti's secret AUG optic surfaces) and the lines are vaguely reminiscent of the Steyr AUG A3 scope. I found the AUG accurate during slow fire and quick to present from the ready (even with the CQ/T's small field of view), but definitely missed the two-stage trigger from my ARs during longer firing strings. Fun to shoot - I need to get it to the range more often.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x131/JSGlock34/IMG_2473_zps06e945c5.jpg
helothar
09-16-2016, 11:46 AM
are there any deals on an Aug a3 with long rail right now?
edit: also how well do they handle steel cased ammo?
ReverendMeat
09-16-2016, 10:33 PM
Mine short stroked occasionally on wolf, though I suspect changing the gas setting would've cleared that up.
Dagga Boy
09-16-2016, 11:43 PM
are there any deals on an Aug a3 with long rail right now?
edit: also how well do they handle steel cased ammo?
Not sure on steel, but I know they are not garbage dump guns that run on anything. I have found that they like quality Ammo, either commercial or NATO spec. Military made by quality Ammo producers.
It seems like way too nice (and expensive a gun) to shoot crap ammo through.
Dagga Boy
09-17-2016, 12:13 AM
It seems like way too nice (and expensive a gun) to shoot crap ammo through.
One would think......but this is the land of Walmartians. Same as why I left the HK forums...."my VP9 will not feed the Turkish Ammo that is bargain prices at Walmart". Yea, the stuff that is cheaper than the crappiest American Ammo. Other than a broken fire pin in the very high round count gun I got from Bill Jeans, every malfunction I have had with an AUG has been ammo related.
Also....frangible ammo and AUGs do not get along at all.
One would think......but this is the land of Walmartians. Same as why I left the HK forums...."my VP9 will not feed the Turkish Ammo that is bargain prices at Walmart". Yea, the stuff that is cheaper than the crappiest American Ammo. Other than a broken fire pin in the very high round count gun I got from Bill Jeans, every malfunction I have had with an AUG has been ammo related.
Also....frangible ammo and AUGs do not get along at all.
Hope you got a deal, he used to ride all over Gunsite with that thing in the rack of his three wheeler.
One would think......but this is the land of Walmartians. Same as why I left the HK forums...."my VP9 will not feed the Turkish Ammo that is bargain prices at Walmart". Yea, the stuff that is cheaper than the crappiest American Ammo. Other than a broken fire pin in the very high round count gun I got from Bill Jeans, every malfunction I have had with an AUG has been ammo related.
Also....frangible ammo and AUGs do not get along at all.
Hope you got a deal, he used to ride all over Gunsite with that thing in the rack of his three wheeler.
JSGlock34
09-17-2016, 05:38 PM
Stumbled across this Austrian Army video...note the use of the Aimpoint (M3?) mounted over the factory optic. Is this standard practice?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kK45nfg5vg
Here are some stills...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Austrian_forces_at_Combined_Resolve_II_(1423602394 5).jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Austrian_Soldiers_develop_skills_during_CR-II_(14041133707).jpg
Dagga Boy
09-17-2016, 08:19 PM
Yes on the Aimpoints. Their special operations guys are using Aimpoint Micros that work real well in that role.
Keebsley
09-19-2016, 09:10 PM
Just because the irrational want for an AUG has gripped me, what are your thoughts on the standard flash hider/muzzle brake or if you were to go a different route, what muzzle device would you choose? And how are they suppressed or would you even think about such a thing?
Keebsley
09-20-2016, 08:00 PM
Also what was the name/model of that Eagle Bag Darryl?
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Dagga Boy
09-20-2016, 10:04 PM
Muzzle device....act of God and lots of heat to get them off. Tough to get suppressor adapters, you need to do some gas port stuff. I have one of only a couple of Austrian special gas plugs for suppressor use in the US, and a Surefire adaptor. Just need to set it up. Without the gas system modified they do not like being suppressed in my experience. My boss at Aimpoint is running his with the same set up and a Surefire can and loves it.
Bags....I am using mainly Sneaky bags. The large trick or treat bag fits the gun and up to ten 42 mags with the barrel removed. Lot of load out in a messenger bag. The bag like JodyH pictures works great. I have a discountinued 5.11 MP-5 sling pack the works great for the AUG with a barrel removed if anyone wants to trade or buy me out of it. My training AUG is in a skirmisher first spear bag.
Jackdog
10-07-2016, 09:20 AM
If anyone needs AUG mags. $22.99 for transparent/black 42 rounders at
https://www.44mag.com/product/steyr_aug_42_round_magazine/steyr
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ReverendMeat
10-07-2016, 04:22 PM
RSR also has Magpul AUG mags in stock for $14.65 (MSRP $19.95). I picked one up but haven't been able to try it out at the range yet.
3-7-77
10-09-2016, 12:07 PM
Is there a good online source aside from GunBroker to pick up an AUG? And while I'm sure it's far fetched, does anyone offer LEO pricing?
JSGlock34
10-09-2016, 12:42 PM
PJs Steyr AUG (http://www.pjs-steyraug.com) has long been the place on the internet for Steyr AUGs and parts. I purchased my A3 from Pete a few years ago with no complaints. No idea about a LEO discount.
3-7-77
10-09-2016, 05:11 PM
Awesome, thank-you much.
1/9 twist? Really? What's up with that?
K.O.A.M.
10-10-2016, 06:32 PM
Is there a good online source aside from GunBroker to pick up an AUG? And while I'm sure it's far fetched, does anyone offer LEO pricing?
Contact Steyr USA. I have second hand information that they offer a LEO discount. I already had mine when I found out about it.
Dagga Boy
10-10-2016, 10:16 PM
1/9 twist? Really? What's up with that?
Used it forever. For LE stuff where there is still a ton of 55 gr. Training Ammo being used, it is not a bad option. Mine has always been shot with 62-64 grain duty Ammo. Honestly, some of the horrific low bid 55 grain training Ammo can cause issues in 1/7 losing jackets and not leaving the barrel straight. This can be a major issue with a suppressor on the gun......ask me how I know.
My home defense gun has a 1/9. My training gun has one of the rarer 1/7's.
I get all that, but none of my ammo is 55 any more. Seems a little too limiting for me these days, to go back to a 9 twist. I have been thinking about an Aug for a while, but my ammo may not like it.
LittleLebowski
10-11-2016, 07:42 AM
Are the NATO stock/AR mag compatible AUG lowers/complete rifles no longer easily available?
SteveB
10-11-2016, 07:52 AM
Are the NATO stock/AR mag compatible AUG lowers/complete rifles no longer easily available?
This from the Steyr website regarding the A3 M1:
"The rifle is available in either the standard version that accepts genuine Steyr AUG magazines or as a NATO version that accepts standard STANAG (AR) magazines."
Dagga Boy
10-11-2016, 04:11 PM
I get all that, but none of my ammo is 55 any more. Seems a little too limiting for me these days, to go back to a 9 twist. I have been thinking about an Aug for a while, but my ammo may not like it.
Yea, none of YOUR ammo, but a whole crap load of others is. If all you shoot is 77 gr. Exclusively, then hunting down a 1/7 barrel is an option, or the AUG is not a good choice if you do not think it will stabilize a 77.
LittleLebowski
10-12-2016, 12:52 PM
This from the Steyr website regarding the A3 M1:
"The rifle is available in either the standard version that accepts genuine Steyr AUG magazines or as a NATO version that accepts standard STANAG (AR) magazines."
Definitely few and far between on the A3 NATO unless I'm using the wrong search terms. This is all I found.
http://www.k-var.com/shop/Steyr_Arms
3-7-77
10-12-2016, 01:26 PM
Contact Steyr USA. I have second hand information that they offer a LEO discount. I already had mine when I found out about it.
$1679.20 plus $15 shipping, but they are way back ordered. Oddly enough, my local sporting goods store, which sells Tavors for $2500 had a NIB A3 M1 in black for $1650. That was the cheapest I've seen anywhere online, so I decided to give it a a home.
Colt191145lover
10-12-2016, 03:45 PM
Yea, none of YOUR ammo, but a whole crap load of others is. If all you shoot is 77 gr. Exclusively, then hunting down a 1/7 barrel is an option, or the AUG is not a good choice if you do not think it will stabilize a 77.
This has been a hangup for me as well, How difficult is it to find the 1/7 twist barrels and what is the cost?
JSGlock34
10-12-2016, 05:12 PM
This has been a hangup for me as well, How difficult is it to find the 1/7 twist barrels and what is the cost?
My understanding is that the 1/7 twist AUG barrels are fairly rare (there was a run of 200 in late 2013 by FN). If anyone can get one it is Pete Athens - they're listed on his website (but zero in stock). They were $530 when new but I'm sure the prices are higher due to the rarity.
http://www.pjs-steyraug.com/augusrparts.html
K.O.A.M.
10-17-2016, 02:11 PM
In previous posts, there has been reference to some new AUG stuff on the way. Here's a link to a video showing some of the stuff in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=SEy1nDTYzhk
The guy in the picture is an Austrian SF guy who's behind most of the accessories. I've seen some individual pictures of the stuff, but I promised not to show those until given the okay. He posted this video, so I'm guessing he doesn't mind it being out.
My understanding is that the 1/7 twist AUG barrels are fairly rare (there was a run of 200 in late 2013 by FN). If anyone can get one it is Pete Athens - they're listed on his website (but zero in stock). They were $530 when new but I'm sure the prices are higher due to the rarity.
http://www.pjs-steyraug.com/augusrparts.html
SteveB contacted Pete to ask about the 1/7 barrels. Pete said they had a run, 200 as I recall, they were not popular and took forever to get rid of. Gone now.
In previous posts, there has been reference to some new AUG stuff on the way. Here's a link to a video showing some of the stuff in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=SEy1nDTYzhk
The guy in the picture is an Austrian SF guy who's behind most of the accessories. I've seen some individual pictures of the stuff, but I promised not to show those until given the okay. He posted this video, so I'm guessing he doesn't mind it being out.
Looks pretty slick.
Colt191145lover
10-18-2016, 07:55 PM
SteveB contacted Pete to ask about the 1/7 barrels. Pete said they had a run, 200 as I recall, they were not popular and took forever to get rid of. Gone now.
Well thats a buzz kill...
ReverendMeat
10-18-2016, 10:45 PM
In previous posts, there has been reference to some new AUG stuff on the way. Here's a link to a video showing some of the stuff in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=SEy1nDTYzhk
The guy in the picture is an Austrian SF guy who's behind most of the accessories. I've seen some individual pictures of the stuff, but I promised not to show those until given the okay. He posted this video, so I'm guessing he doesn't mind it being out.
Oh my.
I'm rapidly approaching my credit limit and this is not going to help.
ReverendMeat
10-20-2016, 12:19 PM
In case anyone's interested, RSR has some new stock. Short rail A3 M1s in black, FDE, ODG (including a single NATO stock in FDE) and--most appealing to me, white. The white ones seem harder to come by. Also magazines in 10/30/42 +green 30s and plenty of PMAGs.
El Cid
10-26-2016, 07:27 PM
FYI - 42rd mags on sale for $39.99
https://www.impactguns.com/steyr-aug-42-round-black-aug-magazine-MGSTY1200050510.aspx
Shot the new AUG today. First, I had to take some sand paper to the safety as it was razor sharp. Out of the box on paper at 35 yards, the factory 1.5 optic was shooting ten inches right, and off the paper. Seems like I had to crank it a lot to get it zeroed -- hope there is enough travel left. Despite great memories from the old integral optic, did not care for this reticle at all, because all the crap in there, combined with short eye relief, seemed to obscure lots of what you are aiming at. Trigger was atrocious after shooting the JP GMR-13 that I shot just before.
Anyone have an update on the Geissele trigger and other cool stuff that was supposed to be announced this month? I plan to call Pete Athens on the optic, and in the mean time install the extra rail I bought along with an Aimpoint Pro.
Back in the dark ages, when Nyeti and I ran original pre-ban Austrian made AUGs, back before the AUG A2 was introduced to America, back before Micro$@#& made their f'ed up version with non compatible parts, there was a product called Trigger tamer, which is still available, which made an enormous difference in the trigger pull f an AUG: http://www.triggertamer.com/.
I installed it in my AUGa1 and used it. It worked quite well.
The Sabre AUGa2 that I T&E'ed for a SWAT article had a usable trigger--much better than the original Austrian AUGs imported to the US.
I have not fired the current Veltor made AUG. You might want to try the Trigger Tamer in it. It has two alternate notches--one of which makes the trigger too light IMHO. The other one is fine.
JSGlock34
10-29-2016, 10:21 PM
Anyone have an update on the Geissele trigger and other cool stuff that was supposed to be announced this month? I plan to call Pete Athens on the optic, and in the mean time install the extra rail I bought along with an Aimpoint Pro.
I'm assuming this is the Corvus Defensio Enhanced Trigger System ("Powered by ALG and Geissele")? According to their web page (http://corvusdefensio.com/en/)...
COMING SOON
Enhanced Trigger System and Anti-Rotation Stock Kit currently in final quality check. We´re checking the requirements for shipping outside the EU which could take a while. Please keep checking back for new infos on that matter.
Both my pre ban AUGs had trigger jobs done by Giles Stock. As I recalled, he used a green scotch brite pad to do them.
Keebsley
10-29-2016, 11:15 PM
The Corvus stuff is still trying to figure out shipping to the US when I checked their website.
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Dagga Boy
10-30-2016, 01:06 AM
Both my pre ban AUGs had trigger jobs done by Giles Stock. As I recalled, he used a green scotch brite pad to do them.
I have a couple he has done. Good enough for most of my needs.
The Corvus stuff is still trying to figure out shipping to the US when I checked their website.
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Yea, he is trying to get the import stuff figured out. I guess trying to legally import stuff is really hard. Not like a couple tons of Cocaine that is fairly easy.....:(
ReverendMeat
10-30-2016, 02:08 AM
I taped a piece of a PBR can to my sear and that cleaned up the trigger pull quite nicely.
SteveB
10-30-2016, 12:05 PM
Anyone have experience with this item?
http://www.neu-trigger.com/
Jackdog
10-30-2016, 12:25 PM
Pete Athens got a shipment of AUGs in on Friday. Can't wait to get mine!
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Drang
10-30-2016, 08:57 PM
I taped a piece of a PBR can to my sear and that cleaned up the trigger pull quite nicely.
Hipster.
ReverendMeat
10-31-2016, 06:00 PM
Hipster.
I was living in Milwaukee at the time. Unlike in Portland (and I assume Seattle) PBR is a standard normal-person beer. Hell if anything's gonna make me a hipster my special snowflake bullpup with a Wolski's sticker certainly will.
jeep45238
10-31-2016, 06:36 PM
Hipster.
It's the best price for a beer at the local bars, $2 for a tall boy normal prices. My taste sucks enough that after 1, maybe 2 decent beers I can't taste the difference in most beers.
I was living in Milwaukee at the time. Unlike in Portland (and I assume Seattle) PBR is a standard normal-person beer. Hell if anything's gonna make me a hipster my special snowflake bullpup with a Wolski's sticker certainly will.
Growing up in Iowa, pbr was the fancy beer; Milwaukee's Best was the cheap stuff. My civil ceremony at the VFW had a cash bar with $1 PBR longnecks. Many were sold, completely without irony.
overton
11-05-2016, 02:45 PM
Corvus defense parts installed11497
Keebsley
11-05-2016, 03:04 PM
Corvus defense parts installed11497
Hnnnnnng....do want so bad!!!!
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Jackdog
11-05-2016, 04:10 PM
Corvus defense parts installed11497
Did you get the parts off the website and shipped to the states? If so, how long did it take?
Thanks!
overton
11-05-2016, 07:02 PM
I am currently located in Europe, so it was no problem getting them. As DaggaBoy wrote, they are aware that the demand is there
and are looking for ways to export to the US.
Jackdog
11-05-2016, 09:22 PM
I am currently located in Europe, so it was no problem getting them. As DaggaBoy wrote, they are aware that the demand is there
and are looking for ways to export to the US.
Thank you for the reply. I'm picking my AUG up next week. Would like to purchase this kit when it is available. Maybe I'll be able to find it in Frankfurt on my next trip there.
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Jackdog
11-17-2016, 05:16 PM
Steyr AUG/A3 M1 in mud
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161117/976b1aa6174827e26ff9318a5187a79f.jpg
For a second, thought MAC tested one. Here is my muddy one.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/GJMandes/FullSizeRender_zpsewg9t7gc.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/user/GJMandes/media/FullSizeRender_zpsewg9t7gc.jpg.html)
Inkwell 41
11-17-2016, 09:06 PM
Jack or GJM, is that the long rail? Do you think it's the best choice for putting a T1 or T2 on?
Pete Athens suggested the long rail, when I got mine from him.
Jackdog
11-17-2016, 10:17 PM
Jack or GJM, is that the long rail? Do you think it's the best choice for putting a T1 or T2 on?
It's the long rail. I just picked up mine on Tuesday. I'm probably gonna put a T2 on it.
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I tried the factory 1.something optic, and didn't care for it at all, even though I was a big fan of the original AUG optic. This one was too busy and cluttered for my taste. The H2 seems a good match for the AUG, and is what I plan to keep on it.
LOKNLOD
01-25-2017, 10:27 PM
Dammit Tom. I keep trying to resist the urge to buy one of these. This is what not helping looks like.
Keebsley
01-25-2017, 10:31 PM
Dammit Tom. I keep trying to resist the urge to buy one of these. This is what not helping looks like.
Only thing preventing me from already snagging one is I like living and I know the wife wouldn't allow it.
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ldunnmobile
01-25-2017, 11:36 PM
How are these things suppressed compared to ARs?
Edwin
01-26-2017, 12:27 AM
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/25/steyr-aug-survival-kit-pelican-case/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss
Lex Luthier
01-26-2017, 09:38 AM
I have never once fired an AUG, though I have handled several going back to the original pre-ban days of the 80s at the old (long gone and dearly missed)
San Francisco Gun Exchange.
I suppose I will have to find a P-F member in the Twin Cities who will help a brother out. And yes, Tom, you are not helping!
El Cid
01-26-2017, 10:49 AM
An Orange AUG?!
Sign a bother up!
On second thought... :(
As cool as it looks in PF colors... I'm always weary about real firearms in safety colors. I couldn't feel right about any gun in light blue, red, or orange.
Aizen
01-29-2017, 06:11 AM
Question for the AUG knowledgable:
What is the better way to go in regards towards the AUG when choosing optics for a person with vision issues? My astigmatism gives me a hard time with red dots, though for some reason lasers are much less affected, so would I be well in choosing the 3x optic and a laser or trying various 1-4x, 1-6x, 1-8x optics to find a reticle that doesn't fuzz out as readily?
Edwin
01-29-2017, 08:24 PM
Why not a prism red dot since those deal with astigmatism directly?
Aizen
01-30-2017, 06:32 AM
Why not a prism red dot since those deal with astigmatism directly?
I'd like a magnification option and from what I've seen, that's only possible with the ELCAN. Are there others? Don't have a problem with the ELCAN, but it would have to be put down the line due to price.
ReverendMeat
01-30-2017, 01:43 PM
Vortex, Burris, Leupold, and Trijicon all do fixed magnification etched reticle optics that ought to work
Edwin
01-30-2017, 02:23 PM
I'd like a magnification option and from what I've seen, that's only possible with the ELCAN. Are there others? Don't have a problem with the ELCAN, but it would have to be put down the line due to price.
You can always get a separate magnifier if you don't want a fixed magnification.
http://www.primaryarms.com/MCategories+Red-Dot-Magnifiers
http://www.primaryarms.com/search?keywords=prism
Keebsley
02-02-2017, 10:38 PM
For variable 1-4 or 1-6 optics, I've heard that the 1.93 height mount is the height to go with. Anyone find differently?
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Keebsley
02-03-2017, 10:15 AM
And hopefully DB will pipe in bit for everyone else: does anybody have an issue with the muzzle device? Not with it not working effectively but with the want to replace it with something else?
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fatdog
02-03-2017, 11:57 AM
muzzle device?
I replaced mine with the correct YHM flash hider for my YHM screw on suppressor, but turns out I don't have the correct gas system parts to get it to run correctly. It was a pain because the original was on with something like loctite black or red and it took the torch to burn loose the adhesive.
Keebsley
02-03-2017, 12:05 PM
I know of someone having to get another gas plug and drill another sized port to run their gun suppressed correctly.
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JSGlock34
02-03-2017, 06:47 PM
Question for the AUG knowledgable:
What is the better way to go in regards towards the AUG when choosing optics for a person with vision issues? My astigmatism gives me a hard time with red dots, though for some reason lasers are much less affected, so would I be well in choosing the 3x optic and a laser or trying various 1-4x, 1-6x, 1-8x optics to find a reticle that doesn't fuzz out as readily?
Maybe give the Leupold Mark 4 CQ/T (https://www.amazon.com/Leupold-1-3x14mm-incl-carrying-handle/dp/B003AQIYP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486165497&sr=8-1&keywords=leopold+CQ%2FT) a look. Though I'm currently running an Aimpoint PRO on my AUG A3, the CQ/T looked right at home there (I think it bears more than a passing resemblance to the Steyr A3 optic). Etched reticle. However, I no longer see the CQ/T on the Leupold website, and I suspect it is no longer available. You might find a closeout deal somewhere...
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x131/JSGlock34/IMG_2473_zps06e945c5.jpg
Keebsley
02-13-2017, 03:00 PM
For those looking for a long low rail that would make things AR height, pjs is making them for the a3m1 and will be getting them next week at a good price for about $135.
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Keebsley
02-14-2017, 09:39 PM
Just ordered my special snowflake AUG from PJ'S today. Quick service, answered all my emailed questions quickly, and got tracking info same day. Buy with confidence from Pete.
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overton
02-15-2017, 02:45 AM
Thaught that maybe folks here are interested that Corvus Defensio now offers intl. shipping:
http://corvusdefensio.com/de/
http://corvusdefensio.com/wp-content/uploads/0012.png
http://corvusdefensio.com/wp-content/uploads/Still0930_00036.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEy1nDTYzhk
Keebsley
02-15-2017, 12:38 PM
I can vouch for Corvus shipping to the US as I'm currently waiting on their case deflector and forward accessory rail.
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Keebsley
02-21-2017, 11:11 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170222/fb7105983f9315497d99e237ceb4b142.jpg
Got a white A3M1 from PJ'S today. Certainly happy with it and already added a Gear Head Works extended charging handle and the Neu-Trigger. Stock trigger wasn't bad but the Neutrigger does make a difference.
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Keebsley
02-22-2017, 09:33 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170223/0e505ed999c308ccd85b4665665ba1e2.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170223/eb0b2a803925f74081c2e26777441fe2.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170223/6ad66a87f870d0f668411a33a26f014c.jpg
Thought I'd give an updated picture of the Imperial AUG. Package from Corvus Defensio arrived earlier than expected as I wasn't expecting it until the 1st or the 8th and it was shipped on the 15th. I ordered their forward accessory rail and their case deflector. The following is my analysis of said items on their features, issues, benefits, etc.
The package arrived securely in a package from DHL and in seperate bags as seen above. The forward accessory rail came with the front portion as well as the required Allen wrench for the two set screws that are included. It is a keymod system and so the 15 slot and 4 slot pic rails had the required accessories and screws but not an included wrench. That is a downside that I had notice as the screws are star wrenches and luckily I had some that fit in my toolbox while not everyone might not have them. Also not included were instructions on installation. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure things out but from having dealt with individuals at all ends of the spectrum, some type of instructions would be beneficial.
While not a fan of the keymod system, it's not a knock on the product. The construction of the products were well made and sturdy and gave me confidence that they would be able to withstand any stressor that I might put on them.
The case deflector is nice as it has set screws that allow you to tighten or loosen the fit in the ejection port but again were star wrench screws. Also, make sure that you don't tighten the screws down too far while the bolt is locked back, or else the bolt won't go into battery because the case deflector is preventing it from going forward. Backing the screws off slightly fixed the issue and the bolt functions normally.
Coming from running an AR primarily, I was not a fan of the light mounting locations available on a standard AUG. With the forward accessory rail, I'm able to set my light and it's activation similar to that how I ran it on my AR. I will probably change it out for a direct keymod light mount but that'll be in the future.
All in all, I don't believe the addition throws off the balance of the rifle but again, this is coming from someone that ran AR's and AK's. I'm sure someone that normally ran an unmodified AUG would say differently butbagain, I fit the rifle for my intended use and comfort. YMMV.
If anyone has any questions on the Corvus stuff or anything else, lemme know and I'll try to answer them.
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overton
02-26-2017, 06:15 AM
the instructions are downloadable at the Corvus Defensio website. Go to "Products", klick on the desired item and then in the last line of the item description:
http://corvusdefensio.com/en/shop/corvus-defensio-case-deflector/
http://corvusdefensio.com/wp-content/uploads/Einbauanleitung-H%C3%BClsenabweiser-Englisch.pdf
Keebsley
02-26-2017, 07:08 AM
Welp...Apparently I missed the memo on that one but got it installed nevertheless.
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LockedBreech
02-27-2017, 04:16 PM
I made it about 7-8 pages into the thread but I want to ask a question without reading the whole thing, if that's okay. If a fella wanted a bullpup, why the Aug vs. the Tavor?
ReverendMeat
02-27-2017, 06:49 PM
I made it about 7-8 pages into the thread but I want to ask a question without reading the whole thing, if that's okay. If a fella wanted a bullpup, why the Aug vs. the Tavor?
Well aside from the personal preference caveat, the aug has been in service use for decades longer than the tavor, has a more neutral bslance, better ergonomics, is easier to take apart, is more accurate, trigger can be improved for a dollar instead of $400, multiple rail height options, stock shape easier to get a good cheek weld regardless of optic choice. Unless ypure left handed, i honestly dont know why one would choose a tavor instead. It takes ar mags. Tavor suppresses much better. Sty for any typos im on my phone
Eta: also looking at how the guns are designed the aug is very clever and quite simple. The tavor looks like it was designed by a committee, with heavy influence from the marketing dept. the aug bcgs anti pre engagement system is really cool, tavor has many dumb fiddly little bits internally
LockedBreech
02-28-2017, 03:04 PM
Great answer, thank you.
Well aside from the personal preference caveat, the aug has been in service use for decades longer than the tavor, has a more neutral bslance, better ergonomics, is easier to take apart, is more accurate, trigger can be improved for a dollar instead of $400, multiple rail height options, stock shape easier to get a good cheek weld regardless of optic choice. Unless ypure left handed, i honestly dont know why one would choose a tavor instead. It takes ar mags. Tavor suppresses much better. Sty for any typos im on my phone
Eta: also looking at how the guns are designed the aug is very clever and quite simple. The tavor looks like it was designed by a committee, with heavy influence from the marketing dept. the aug bcgs anti pre engagement system is really cool, tavor has many dumb fiddly little bits internally
Keebsley
03-02-2017, 08:19 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170303/19acd8e8e9a20672a0775fcb6b9e7e0e.jpg
Updated and fairly completed pic. Only thing that will change now is the light mount and muzzle device.
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Keebsley
03-02-2017, 08:49 PM
I really dig that white stock. It's very stormtrooper. :)
That's the reason I got it. It'll have the Imperial logo on the other side and I'll eventually get a set of trooper armor to shoot it in.
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TR675
03-02-2017, 09:03 PM
That's the reason I got it. It'll have the Imperial logo on the other side and I'll eventually get a set of trooper armor to shoot it in.
Most. Pistol-Forum. Comment. Evar.
lml_hotshot
03-20-2017, 08:02 AM
Y'all may want to check out clawgear.com, it's another Austrian company producing AUG accessories.
Of intrest:
-M-lok/key mod handguard that clamps to the barrel casing/gas block.
-A rail system that goes on classic A1 scopes.
https://www.clawgear.com/p/en/AUG-M-LOK-Handguard-Claw-Gear/20108/1646/
https://www.clawgear.com/p/en/AUG-Modular-Scope-Mount-Claw-Gear/20114/1555/
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Keebsley
03-20-2017, 08:16 AM
Any images of the handguard attached?
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lml_hotshot
03-20-2017, 08:33 AM
This is just what I could find on Google images.
https://www.comrade.net/media/image/0b/63/bf/6192_2.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7758/26872963604_8846de4538_o.jpg
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Keebsley
03-20-2017, 09:22 PM
Wish there were better and closer pictures.
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Edwin
03-28-2017, 09:25 PM
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/03/28/steyr-aug-300blk/
K.O.A.M.
06-20-2017, 01:43 PM
A slight necropost, but I am picking up my 40th Anniversary model tomorrow. I'm at the range Thursday and Friday, so I look forward to wringing it out.
K.O.A.M.
06-21-2017, 07:51 PM
So I pick it up today and rack the action. It gets back about 80% of the way and locks up. I can't move the charging handle the last 1/8" to be able to lock it back. I can exert pressure on the bolt through the ejection port with a tool and get some give, but have not been able to get it all the way back yet. The charging handle will move forward independent of the charging assembly. The magazine insertion also requires me to give it a hard smack on the base to seat completely. These were not problems with my previous AUG.
I can get it to a gunsmith on Friday. Anyone got any ideas as to what I can do previous to that? Thanks in advance.
ReverendMeat
06-21-2017, 11:21 PM
What happens if you cycle it after removing the trigger pack?
I would send it back to the factory.
The magazine insertion also requires me to give it a hard smack on the base to seat completely. These were not problems with my previous AUG.
That is a big problem. If you do that with rounds in the mag when the bolt is back you will pop the first round into the magazine. Then when you release the bolt it will strip a round from the magazine causing a doublefeed.
K.O.A.M.
06-24-2017, 03:00 PM
Update. After a few repetitions, the magazine insertion is now that of a typical AUG and no longer requires the smack to seat. I brought the rifle to my gunsmith who took it apart and saw that the bolt carrier/guide rod assembly had been improperly installed. It was slightly damaged when I attempted to rack the rifle. He's got it working, but there was minor damage to the guide rods on the carrier assembly. I have an email into Steyr to let them know what happened.
pastaslinger
06-28-2017, 06:55 PM
Any word on Geissele's trigger pack for the AUG? I would love one but the trigger is awful
The stock AUG trigger of the made in America guns is much better than the triggers of the pre-ban semiauto versions. For those you needed to buy a Trigger Tamer (http://www.triggertamer.com/).
ReverendMeat
06-28-2017, 11:54 PM
Any word on Geissele's trigger pack for the AUG? I would love one but the trigger is awful
No idea, but this might be worth checking out: https://ratworxusa.com/product.20-tsm-auga3
Or if you just want to take the plastic-y grittiness out of the pull take a strip of a beer can and wrap it around the sear. Worked for me, plus a prerequisite for going this route is drinking beer which is great.
Also I don't think the trigger you're talking about will be marketed by Geiselle. It's made by Corvus Defensio and is an adapter that allows use of standard AR triggers (default being ALG ACT) in the AUG trigger housing assembly. Ratworx had something similar (http://emptormaven.com/2012/02/rat-worx-hybrid-trigger-mod-the-best-aug-trigger/) but it doesn't look to be available anymore.
overton
07-23-2017, 09:25 AM
Outfitted the AUG with the Corvus Defensio QD sling attach. Works well with the Magpul sling, but is a fairly tight fit
compared to the original. Guess it isn't neceassary to pull the trigger group out fast.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170723/df546391101a43c66ee307dabdab0718.jpg
pastaslinger
07-23-2017, 02:08 PM
No idea, but this might be worth checking out: https://ratworxusa.com/product.20-tsm-auga3
Or if you just want to take the plastic-y grittiness out of the pull take a strip of a beer can and wrap it around the sear. Worked for me, plus a prerequisite for going this route is drinking beer which is great.
Also I don't think the trigger you're talking about will be marketed by Geiselle. It's made by Corvus Defensio and is an adapter that allows use of standard AR triggers (default being ALG ACT) in the AUG trigger housing assembly. Ratworx had something similar (http://emptormaven.com/2012/02/rat-worx-hybrid-trigger-mod-the-best-aug-trigger/) but it doesn't look to be available anymore.
I was under the impression they were actually working on a trigger like they did the tavor
Amurr
07-25-2017, 05:43 PM
Has anyone had any success running an AUG supressed?
QuickStrike
10-09-2017, 02:24 PM
Looking at the aimpoint T2's and mounts.
Does the low bobro mount look too low? I'm thinking of getting the absolute co-witness ones.
http://www.mountsplus.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/Aimpoint-Micro-T-2-with-BOBRO-Mount-6_550x250.jpg
Dagga Boy
10-10-2017, 04:37 PM
Looking at the aimpoint T2's and mounts.
Does the low bobro mount look too low? I'm thinking of getting the absolute co-witness ones.
http://www.mountsplus.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/Aimpoint-Micro-T-2-with-BOBRO-Mount-6_550x250.jpg
Depends on the rail height. The A3's use an HK height mount. The M1's can be a bit tough depending on rail height.
QuickStrike
10-10-2017, 06:12 PM
Mine had the short rail before I swapped it for a longer one:
https://i.imgur.com/g7nZ960.jpg
The longer one is a little higher.
Hideeho
10-10-2017, 07:43 PM
Special thanks to DB for his insights. Went a little overboard. Aimpoint T2, Larue HK mount, Troy HK BUIS, Corvus Defense Deflector and Mag Release. Also thanks to Steyr for LE pricing.
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spyderco monkey
02-04-2018, 10:07 PM
Been following this thread for quite awhile.
Figured I'd share my "modernized" AUG:
-PupLight flashlight mount with Surefire P2X Furry 600lm LED
-Corvus rail, shell deflector, and extended magazine release
-ACOG 1.5X direct mounted to Corvus rail
-Crimson Trace CMR-206 Green Laser on receiver side rail
-Steyr factory sling with Gearward Ranger Band in S-roll quick deploy configuration
The AUG balances perfectly on the web of my hand with the loaded 42rd mag.
S Jenks
02-05-2018, 12:52 AM
How do you like the PupLight mount? This is the first time I’ve seen it.
My solution has been to ziptie a tape switch to the front of the trigger guard, wired to an HLR-1 HL on the side rail. It’s functional but not ideal as the support hand has to come off the vertical grip to activate it and I’d rather not have wires present if at all possible.
spyderco monkey
02-05-2018, 03:38 AM
I'm a huge fan of the PupLight. It mounts a 1" flashlight directly to the gas block, which makes for a very comfortable activation with your left thumb when holding the VFG.
The lens of the LED is positioned close enough to the muzzle that there is no beam shadow, and it also frees up the side rail for use with the laser. With the laser mounted on the side rail, I can rest the pad of my trigger finger on the laser activation tab, with the rest of my finger resting over the safety. So the laser can be activated and the safety can be depressed all with a single movement.
S Jenks
02-05-2018, 05:47 AM
Good to hear. I’ll probably pick one up to try. And awesome pic, maybe it’s because the AUG looks like a laser gun to begin with.
Poconnor
02-06-2018, 07:16 AM
I have a Surefire mounted on the side mount on my AUG. Workable but not ideal. That PuP light looks sweet. Thanks for the link Tom. I just ordered two. Because , you know. Now I have to get a laser. Because, it a friggining LASER!
spyderco monkey
02-07-2018, 06:26 AM
Whats so neat about the PupLight is that it's the invention of some random machinist who happened to need a light mount for his personal AUG - and he comes up with the very best light mount ever produced for a 40 year old platform. As far as I can tell, this is his first and only firearm product, making it all the more impressive that he cracked to code on mounting a light to the AUG and not someone in the military or firearms field.
As an inventor and small business owner myself, I love those kind of stories :cool:
I got a PuP Light mount (http://battlefieldinnovations.com/index.html) and used it to mount a Malkoff M61 MD2 (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/malkoff-mid-sized-led-flashlights/products/turnkey-ha-flashlight-md2?variant=21224942019) to my AUG. The mount, and the Malkoff light, are perfect for this. Thank you spyderco monkey for bringing this to our attention. :)
Since the pup light mounts to the gas block, is there any issue with heat from the gas block when used with a heavier firing schedule ?
So I’m looking at a locally availible AUG A3 M1 with the 1.5x Styer optic.
Anything I should be aware of ?
How difficult is it to replace the optic with a rail ?
Are there issues with rail height on the M1 vs the standard A3 ?
spyderco monkey
02-10-2018, 07:27 PM
I got a PuP Light mount (http://battlefieldinnovations.com/index.html) and used it to mount a Malkoff M61 MD2 (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/malkoff-mid-sized-led-flashlights/products/turnkey-ha-flashlight-md2?variant=21224942019) to my AUG. The mount, and the Malkoff light, are perfect for this. Thank you spyderco monkey for bringing this to our attention. :)
Awesome, glad to be able to contribute, as I've learned a lot in this thread :cool:
spyderco monkey
02-10-2018, 07:35 PM
So I’m looking at a locally availible AUG A3 M1 with the 1.5x Styer optic.
Anything I should be aware of ?
How difficult is it to replace the optic with a rail ?
Are there issues with rail height on the M1 vs the standard A3 ?
Since the pup light mounts to the gas block, is there any issue with heat from the gas block when used with a heavier firing schedule ?
Mine was originally a 1.5x AUG. Loved the optic, but really couldn't hang with the reticle - if there was a 2moa dot in the center of the "Donut of Death" I would have kept it; ended up replacing it with the Trijicon 1.5x which has a donut with internal dot.
Removing the optic is easy. You remove the barrel, pop off the receiver, flip it over, and you will see 2-3 big screws. You unscrew them with an allen wrench, and you are GTG.
The new rails are A3 height, which ~ correlates to the height over bore of an AR15.
For rails, I really like the Corvus. It has 2 integral sling swivels for better sling placement, an integral groove for low mounting an ACOG, and it's made in Austria. Shipping is fast, less then 10 days.
http://corvusdefensio.com/en/shop/corvus-defensio-m1-receiver-rail/
PJ has worked with Steyr and released a similar rail, though it lacks the sling swivels and ACOG groove:
http://steyrarms.com/accessories/aug/extended-rail.html
The Puplight gets warm, but firing 200rds in 20 minutes with mine there was no ill effects.
Poconnor
02-10-2018, 09:17 PM
Anybody mount a scope to their AUG? I have an aimpoint T1 with an ADM hk height mount on mine. I would like to see photos of an AUG with 3-9x scope or something similar.
spyderco monkey
02-10-2018, 10:45 PM
Anybody mount a scope to their AUG? I have an aimpoint T1 with an ADM hk height mount on mine. I would like to see photos of an AUG with 3-9x scope or something similar.
Here's one with a A3 rail (same height as the new extended M1 rails) with what looks to be a 1-4/1-6x optic.
http://www.petersenshunting.com/files/2014/02/aug-a3_bullpup_f1.jpg
I'm planning on setting up my 2nd AUG similarly, likely with a 1-4x TRG24 or 1-6x Khales K6i.
LOKNLOD
02-27-2018, 11:31 PM
So if a feller was shopping for an AUG these days, which variant/rail configuration should he look for? I’m seeing short/Long and high/low and it doesn’t look like the stock photos always match the SKU so it would seem a real good understanding of what one is ordering is important.
Keebsley
02-27-2018, 11:33 PM
So if a feller was shopping for an AUG these days, which variant/rail configuration should he look for? I’m seeing short/Long and high/low and it doesn’t look like the stock photos always match the SKU so it would seem a real good understanding of what one is ordering is important.It all depends on what you wabt to do with it. Stick with stock optic? RDS? Variable optic? Light, laser, miscellaneous? Takes AR mags or just AUG mags?
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LOKNLOD
02-28-2018, 07:18 AM
It all depends on what you wabt to do with it. Stick with stock optic? RDS? Variable optic? Light, laser, miscellaneous? Takes AR mags or just AUG mags?
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Probably a red dot, maybe move over an LPVO. “Which top rail” is really the question. It looks like that short one would be limiting.
I like the idea of the NATO stock but there seems to be a concensus that AUG mags are superior? I’m okay dealing with that if it gets me a better running gun.
spyderco monkey
03-03-2018, 05:12 AM
So if a feller was shopping for an AUG these days, which variant/rail configuration should he look for? I’m seeing short/Long and high/low and it doesn’t look like the stock photos always match the SKU so it would seem a real good understanding of what one is ordering is important.
You want the one called "extended Picatinny rail." This is the 25 slot rail that is at AR height over bore, so you can use regular optics mounts.
https://assets.shootingillustrated.com/media/1541685/steyr-aug-m1-long-rail-picatinny-tan-rifle-f.jpg
Call Pete at PJ Steyr AUG, he's a) the man for AUG's and typically has he the best price and selection b) the OEM for the extended rail.
Randomly, if you plan on wanting a Bayonet, have him do the bayonet lug install for you there, as it's tricky to do yourself where he can do it without issue.
If you plan on using an ACOG, the better option is a getting the cheapest AUG you can find, and getting the Corvus Defensio M1 rail. This is basically the same rail, but with an integral ACOG mounting groove that lets you run it ~10mm lower vs having it in a mount.
LOKNLOD
03-03-2018, 10:11 AM
Okay that's the rail I was looking for but not seeing. I want that exact gun. Well except green, because: Die Hard. :cool: :rolleyes:
Good point on PJ. Forgot about him!
El Cid
09-26-2018, 10:01 AM
Every time I think I’ve suppressed my urge to buy an AUG, someone comes up with something to make me think I should. Lol!
This would seem to help with my concerns about lights and how to mount them.
http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2018/09/25/midwest-industries-aug-extended-mounting-platform/
call_me_ski
09-28-2018, 10:20 PM
Every time I think I’ve suppressed my urge to buy an AUG, someone comes up with something to make me think I should. Lol!
This would seem to help with my concerns about lights and how to mount them.
http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2018/09/25/midwest-industries-aug-extended-mounting-platform/
That looks perfect. That is very unfortunate.
El Cid
11-04-2018, 08:15 PM
Anyone know where to find (or have one they don’t need) a 2020 Precision TR-1A? Ratworx says unavailable. Thanks!
El Cid
11-06-2018, 02:42 PM
Anyone know where to find (or have one they don’t need) a 2020 Precision TR-1A? Ratworx says unavailable. Thanks!
Disregard - their website shows them in stock now.
https://www.ratworxusa.com/product.20-fgr-auga3
How's the balance of the AUG with a fairly heavy sight like an ELCAN Spectre or LPVO and rail/light?
El Cid
11-06-2018, 08:10 PM
How's the balance of the AUG with a fairly heavy sight like an ELCAN Spectre or LPVO and rail/light?
I haven’t taken possession of mine yet but I do have a Vortex Strike Eagle sitting around so it will get the first go at it.
WobblyPossum
11-08-2018, 03:48 PM
So I just purchased an AUG A3M1 from a member here and I'm really digging it. I've wanted an AUG since I watched the original Die Hard as a kid. Just messing around with the rifle at home, I can see some benefits for in home/CQB use. I'm hoping to shoot it this weekend.
As any rifle that might be placed in a duty/defensive role should have a white light on it, I'm looking to mount one. The PuP Light mount mentioned a few posts ago looks perfect. Has anyone tried the PuP Light mount with the Surefire DFT Fury yet? The PuP Light website says the mount only works with 1" diameter lights and possibly 0.980" diameter lights but doesn't mention anything about lights larger than 1". A Surefire customer service person I spoke with told me the DFT Fury has a 1.1" diameter body. I'm really liking the M600DF I have on my AR and the 1500 lumens has spoiled me a little. If the DFT Fury doesn't fit, then I'll look into that Malkoff light Tom_Jones said he purchased.
blues
11-08-2018, 04:07 PM
It's funny how times change. When I was issued an AUG back in the early 90's, I was "meh" about it. I shot it fine, qualified with it for SRT for several years, but didn't care for the three round burst setting and a few other nits. The integral scope was okay.
Now, I'd love to have one but I don't see myself springing for one. I hardly get my AR out these days.
I do still use the little bottle that came with it for solvent though, so I got that going for me. ;)
WobblyPossum
11-08-2018, 06:02 PM
Some more observations from handling but not firing the gun:
1. The OEM charging handle is tiny and locking the bolt to the rear with it would result in my pinky getting scraped against the top rail. The Manticore Arms Switchback charging handle is much better for actually using and will be staying on the gun.
2. The trigger is nowhere near as bad as I was led to believe. Yes it’s a little spongy but it’s not any worse than the triggers of numerous polymer striker fired pistols I’ve tried. I think I’ll leave it stock unless the Corvus Defensio/Geisselle trigger pack comes out at an unrealistically low price.
3. The corners of the safety are SHARP. I’ve been deactivating it with the knuckle of my trigger finger as I slide the finger onto the trigger. It gets painful after a couple of reps. I’ll likely take some sandpaper or a small file to the corners.
4. The rifle is very easy to field strip into its major components and reassemble. I haven’t tried taking the gas piston or bolt assembly apart though.
5. It balances very well and I can see shooting it one handed effectively should you be caught opening a door or holding onto something with the support hand at the time.
6. Retention reloads would definitely be slower for me than with an AR. My hand is too small to hold both mags and hit the mag release at the same time if I were to do the magazine exchange at the mag well so I would have to remove and stow the partial mag before getting a new mag. Speed and emergency reloads don’t seem like they’d be any slower. Using the new mag to hit the mag release like with an AK is surprisingly fast. The mag well also seems to be in a very natural position. I found it very easy to load a new mag without needing to look down at the mag well.
7. I can’t wait to shoot it. I’m curious how it will recoil with my hands being so close together.
I do still use the little bottle that came with it for solvent though, so I got that going for me. ;)
Stolen gov't property!
Somewhere, some ICE OPR agent is gnashing his teeth over statutory limitations.....
blues
11-09-2018, 08:56 AM
Stolen gov't property!
Somewhere, some ICE OPR agent is gnashing his teeth over statutory limitations.....
My heretofore good rep for honesty and integrity is now ruined forever. :p
Will_H
11-09-2018, 10:56 AM
44Mag is blowing out factory AUG magazines of various sizes. Here's an example.
https://www.44mag.com/product/steyr_aug_42_round_magazine/81
Keebsley
11-09-2018, 01:05 PM
Some more observations from handling but not firing the gun:
1. The OEM charging handle is tiny and locking the bolt to the rear with it would result in my pinky getting scraped against the top rail. The Manticore Arms Switchback charging handle is much better for actually using and will be staying on the gun.
2. The trigger is nowhere near as bad as I was led to believe. Yes it’s a little spongy but it’s not any worse than the triggers of numerous polymer striker fired pistols I’ve tried. I think I’ll leave it stock unless the Corvus Defensio/Geisselle trigger pack comes out at an unrealistically low price.
3. The corners of the safety are SHARP. I’ve been deactivating it with the knuckle of my trigger finger as I slide the finger onto the trigger. It gets painful after a couple of reps. I’ll likely take some sandpaper or a small file to the corners.
4. The rifle is very easy to field strip into its major components and reassemble. I haven’t tried taking the gas piston or bolt assembly apart though.
5. It balances very well and I can see shooting it one handed effectively should you be caught opening a door or holding onto something with the support hand at the time.
6. Retention reloads would definitely be slower for me than with an AR. My hand is too small to hold both mags and hit the mag release at the same time if I were to do the magazine exchange at the mag well so I would have to remove and stow the partial mag before getting a new mag. Speed and emergency reloads don’t seem like they’d be any slower. Using the new mag to hit the mag release like with an AK is surprisingly fast. The mag well also seems to be in a very natural position. I found it very easy to load a new mag without needing to look down at the mag well.
7. I can’t wait to shoot it. I’m curious how it will recoil with my hands being so close together.
1) I swapped mine out as well. I went with the gearheadworx one as it is a bit beefier and it gave me more warm and fuzzies than the Manticore one.
2) Neutrigger does wonders to the trigger and for $30, it's an easy install and doesn't break the bank.
3) You definitely have a good idea about taking some sandpaper to the edges of the safety. Just don't go overboard as it's easy to take stuff off but can't necessarily put stuff back on.
6) Retention reloads can be tricky. What I've done in the past is used the edge/knuckle of my thumb that is bringing the new mag up to hit the mag release. That pops the old mag out and grab it it with some fingers, and then insert new mag. Good thing is, with the balance of the AUG being rearward, it doesn't feel awkward holding onto the rifle with one hand.
Let us know how you enjoy shooting it. Loved mine and the biggest thing I noticed that was different from shooting my AR's is transitioning from target to target. The front end is so light, I'd usually overswing and have to come back to the second target.
El Cid
11-09-2018, 04:03 PM
Dagga Boy
Time for an AUG specific rifle class? Surely we have enough just here on P-F who would partake.
https://i.imgur.com/Oz08OmA_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
WobblyPossum
11-09-2018, 04:17 PM
Dagga Boy
Time for an AUG specific rifle class? Surely we have enough just here on P-F who would partake.
https://i.imgur.com/Oz08OmA_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
With how many AUGs DB has sold throughout the course of this thread alone, Steyr should subsidize the class.
Seriously though, I would probably attend. The combination of the uniqueness of the subject matter and DB’s knowledge and experience with these guns would make this something difficult to turn down. If there were extra AUGs available to lend to students who didn’t have their own, I might even have a coworker who I could talk into attending as well.
Hunter Rose
11-09-2018, 04:49 PM
I'm in for an AUG class by Daryl.
Keebsley
11-09-2018, 05:02 PM
Dagga Boy
Time for an AUG specific rifle class? Surely we have enough just here on P-F who would partake.
https://i.imgur.com/Oz08OmA_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
DB needs to instruct it.
El Cid
11-09-2018, 05:37 PM
DB needs to instruct it.
Right. That was the point of my post. ;)
blues
11-09-2018, 05:44 PM
Right. That was the point of my post. ;)
You guys could work for the Dept. of Redundancy Dept. ;)
SeriousStudent
11-09-2018, 06:40 PM
I don't own one, but would love to attend.
Because reasons.
Mike C
11-09-2018, 10:38 PM
I don't own one, but would love to attend.
Because reasons.
I'd buy one and attend just to hang out and try the famous BBQ. New gun, good training, kick ass TX BBQ, win/win/win in my book.
I'd buy one and attend just to hang out and try the famous BBQ. New gun, good training, kick ass TX BBQ, win/win/win in my book.
We could hold it in San Antonio and go to Augies BBQ..
http://m.augiesbbq.com
S Jenks
11-10-2018, 12:40 AM
Texas, BBQ and AUGs! I can’t think of a better reason to burn some vacation time.
Mike C
11-10-2018, 09:18 AM
We could hold it in San Antonio and go to Augies BBQ..
http://m.augiesbbq.com
Why oh why did I click the link and start looking at the photos of appetizers? I think I am going to have to take a road trip back home soon and hit every BBQ joint and smoke house on the way back.
We could hold it in San Antonio and go to Augies BBQ..
http://m.augiesbbq.com
Ooo. I would beat myself over the head for buying another long gun, but that would get me.
SeriousStudent
11-10-2018, 03:38 PM
I have received an incoming smoke signal from Dagga Boy. He says he would be happy to do an AUG class if there were enough sign-ups, and we found the right facility. He said he could also likely get Giles Stock to co-teach it.
I don't know about you fellow's but I'd be on this like a fat kid on cake.
I'm in.
El Cid
11-10-2018, 03:44 PM
I have received an incoming smoke signal from Dagga Boy. He says he would be happy to do an AUG class if there were enough sign-ups, and we found the right facility. He said he could also likely get Giles Stock to co-teach it.
I don't know about you fellow's but I'd be on this like a fat kid on cake.
I'm in.
Hell yes - safe to assume it will be in Texas?
SeriousStudent
11-10-2018, 04:24 PM
I think that would be logistically simpler - I shall make inquiries.
Hunter Rose
11-10-2018, 05:17 PM
I’m in if someone needs to count folks who would sign-up.
K.O.A.M.
11-10-2018, 07:25 PM
I'd definitely be interested.
Poconnor
11-10-2018, 07:30 PM
I’m in
OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
11-10-2018, 07:30 PM
and since I'll likely miss my first SG tuneup w/ DB since 2014, no reason I couldn't mosey over from the piney woods.
rcbusmc24
11-11-2018, 03:56 AM
Depending on the Dates (Marine Corps Deployment Cycle and all...) I would love to get in on one this. Hopefully the dates line up with my availability...
SeriousStudent
11-11-2018, 11:56 AM
Chatted with Dagga Boy, Cecil Burch, Jackdog and others over BBQ last night. We are going to try for the Dallas area, as Dagga Boy is pursuing a range local to him. He has a lot of gear to schlepp, so let's not complicate his life.
Also, Dallas is pretty easy to fly into, and Southwest Airlines is not stupid about flying with guns.
Spring time weather is also nice, and gives folks time to stockpile ammo. Or get it shipped here to a friendly local resident.
I'll post more info as it becomes available. Remember, I'm just a den mother, not the HMFIC.
Notorious E.O.C.
11-11-2018, 12:15 PM
I'll throw in a "me, too," if I can make the schedule and budget work. I'm already heavily booked with work-related training for the spring and Dallas is a full day's drive at best, but I'm another one of the guys who bought an AUG because of this thread and I'd really like to learn how to get a larger fraction of its potential out of it.
El Cid
11-11-2018, 12:46 PM
Chatted with Dagga Boy, Cecil Burch, Jackdog and others over BBQ last night. We are going to try for the Dallas area, as Dagga Boy is pursuing a range local to him. He has a lot of gear to schlepp, so let's not complicate his life.
Also, Dallas is pretty easy to fly into, and Southwest Airlines is not stupid about flying with guns.
Spring time weather is also nice, and gives folks time to stockpile ammo. Or get it shipped here to a friendly local resident.
I'll post more info as it becomes available. Remember, I'm just a den mother, not the HMFIC.
Thank you for helping set this up!
Chance
11-11-2018, 12:57 PM
I'd be up for a class, provided I could bum a loaner rifle off someone....
Mike C
11-11-2018, 01:04 PM
Someone point me in the direction of a decent deal on an Aug and count me in.
El Cid
11-11-2018, 01:27 PM
Someone point me in the direction of a decent deal on an Aug and count me in.
http://www.pjs-steyraug.com
Dorsai
11-11-2018, 09:42 PM
My first post. You'd think I would have discovered this place before now, but it was a link on Lightfighter.net regarding the possibility of a class that brought me here. Full disclaimer, these guys are friends of mine, but they make some good stuff for the AUG and they'll be at SHOT. Including the shooter in this video. Whether he or they would be available for the class is iffy, but certainly a class on either side of the SHOT Show would probably be more doable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEy1nDTYzhk
I don't have an AUG myself, but I do have an MSAR Stg556 that I bought when I could afford it, but couldn't get an AUG. Some of their stuff fits the Stg556 too.
Palisut
11-12-2018, 03:51 AM
I would definitely be in!
El Cid
11-12-2018, 09:58 AM
Based on responses her and at LF, this is what I’m tracking. Move or add your username as appropriate.
Dagga Boy, I presume there is a class size limit?
DEFINITE:
El Cid
DanM
Hunger Rose
Tom Jones
JDM
Poconnor
Old Runner/CSAT Neighbor
Dorsai
Palisut
MAYBE:
Keebsley
Serious Student
Mike C
HCM
S Jenks
JAD
KOAM
RCBUSMC24
Condition White
Chance
Mike C
Default MP3
JW104
COM CAM GUY
Default.mp3
11-12-2018, 11:14 AM
My first post. You'd think I would have discovered this place before now, but it was a link on Lightfighter.net regarding the possibility of a class that brought me here.I find it deeply ironic that it took my post about a rifle to get you show up at pistol-forum.
Based on responses her and at LF, this is what I’m tracking. Move or add your username as appropriate.I'm out, I don't own an AUG, and currently have no plans to; just figured the LF guys would be interested, given that they had a big AUG thread, too, and LF is still my first home.
Mike C
11-12-2018, 05:00 PM
Based on responses her and at LF, this is what I’m tracking. Move or add your username as appropriate.
Dagga Boy, I presume there is a class size limit?
DEFINITE:
El Cid
DanM
Hunger Rose
Tom Jones
JDM
Poconnor
Old Runner/CSAT Neighbor
Dorsai
Palisut
Mike C
FIFY, working the logistics now to buy one. Because 1. BBQ is the best 2. I miss Tejas and 2. Would rather spend my free time hanging out with people from PF.
Mike C
11-12-2018, 06:09 PM
Ha it's true Infantry mofo's can't count.
LOKNLOD
11-12-2018, 08:26 PM
Based on responses her and at LF, this is what I’m tracking. Move or add your username as appropriate.
Dagga Boy, I presume there is a class size limit?
DEFINITE:
El Cid
DanM
Hunger Rose
Tom Jones
JDM
Poconnor
Old Runner/CSAT Neighbor
Dorsai
Palisut
MAYBE:
Keebsley
Serious Student
Mike C
HCM
S Jenks
JAD
KOAM
RCBUSMC24
Condition White
Chance
Mike C
Default MP3
JW104
COM CAM GUY
I don't have an AUG yet, I don't usually travel for classes, and I haven't done a carbine class in a loooooong time.
But for this, mark me as interested. I'll buy one eventually...
WobblyPossum
11-12-2018, 08:40 PM
I got to put some rounds through my new to me AUG today. I enjoyed it very much. I ran a Modified Navy Qual and a VTAC Half & Half. My Navy Qual sucked (40 points) but I’m a poor rifle shooter and that’s only a little worse than what I scored with my AR the last time I attempted the drill. The Half & Half showed me I can’t shoot the AUG faster than 0.24s splits. I dropped one shot at the 10 and my 5y string was too slow (2.93s). With some more practice I should at least be able to improve the skills needed for the Navy Qual. I don’t see my close range splits being able to drop much lower from a combination of the trigger and my trigger finger (I can’t split fast. Even unaimed-dump rounds at the berm shooting I’ve never shot faster than a 0.2s split. I’m okay with that) The rifle seemed easy to shoot standing and prone.
I’m still figuring out reloads. The Magpul AUG mags won’t drop free at all. The Steyr 42 round mags won’t drop free but I can flick them out when I press the mag release with the new mag. I’ve had several occasions when trying this (what I’m calling the AK reload) where the new mag hangs the old mag up and won’t let it fall free. I’m going to do some dry fire where I remove the empty mag before reaching for a new mag to determine how much more reliable but also slower it would be.
I ordered a PuP Light mount and a Malkoff light (the MD61HOT MD2). They offered 20% off my order if I signed up for their newsletter. I’ll report back when these items arrive.
It sounds like this AUG class is actually happening. Time to start saving money. I’ll also need to buy a Pelican or similar case to transport and check the gun.
SeriousStudent
11-12-2018, 09:17 PM
My first post. You'd think I would have discovered this place before now, but it was a link on Lightfighter.net regarding the possibility of a class that brought me here. Full disclaimer, these guys are friends of mine, but they make some good stuff for the AUG and they'll be at SHOT. Including the shooter in this video. Whether he or they would be available for the class is iffy, but certainly a class on either side of the SHOT Show would probably be more doable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEy1nDTYzhk
I don't have an AUG myself, but I do have an MSAR Stg556 that I bought when I could afford it, but couldn't get an AUG. Some of their stuff fits the Stg556 too.
Good to see ya here, and hopefully see you back in Texas soon. :)
El Cid
11-12-2018, 10:30 PM
The Steyr 42 round mags won’t drop free but I can flick them out when I press the mag release with the new mag. I’ve had several occasions when trying this (what I’m calling the AK reload) where the new mag hangs the old mag up and won’t let it fall free.
I noticed the same thing. Just now I saw the catch on the back of the 42rd mags was wider. Enough that I could tell with the naked eye. This is with 5 of the 30rd and 2 of the 42rd.
https://i.imgur.com/m5KNzWj_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/2kcpt7V_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
helothar
11-13-2018, 09:35 PM
I'm also potentially interested, although not owning an aug (yet)
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It seems the class needs to be preceded by a P-F AUG group buy.
Dan_S
11-14-2018, 07:31 AM
It seems the class needs to be preceded by a P-F AUG group buy.
Which would be of interest to me.
John Hearne
11-14-2018, 09:12 AM
It seems the class needs to be preceded by a P-F AUG group buy.
Do you want an armed cult??? 'Cause this is how you get an armed cult.......
helothar
11-14-2018, 09:32 AM
I too, would be interested
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Do you want an armed cult??? 'Cause this is how you get an armed cult.......
They could make a P-F edition AUG with an Orange stock.....
WobblyPossum
11-14-2018, 10:27 AM
They could make a P-F edition AUG with an Orange stock.....
There was a limited edition orange stock AUG posted earlier in the thread. It was $3200ish if I remember correctly.
Poconnor
11-14-2018, 12:06 PM
The correct term is “Group Standard”; it is not a “cult” . As for infantry not being able to count; I to fall in that group. That is why belt fed is our favored weapon. 6-9 round burst; you don’t have to count, just think die motherfucker die; and kill them all
Antonius
11-14-2018, 07:03 PM
I’m definitely in for the class!
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SeriousStudent
11-14-2018, 07:04 PM
The correct term is “Group Standard”; it is not a “cult” . As for infantry not being able to count; I to fall in that group. That is why belt fed is our favored weapon. 6-9 round burst; you don’t have to count, just think die motherfucker die; and kill them all
Indeed!
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Mike C
11-14-2018, 07:51 PM
No group buy for this guy, (thanks to Tom) I will be sourcing mags though. I saw the deal on the 42 rounders and will snag a few, anyone have a good lead on cheap 30 round mags?
WobblyPossum
11-14-2018, 07:58 PM
No group buy for this guy, (thanks to Tom) I will be sourcing mags though. I saw the deal on the 42 rounders and will snag a few, anyone have a good lead on cheap 30 round mags?
https://www.44mag.com/category/steyr
They have the 30 and 42 round Steyr mags for $19.95 and the Magpul 30s for $18.95.
S Jenks
11-14-2018, 09:03 PM
FYI it’s also free shipping on magazine orders over $44.95.
You can move me to the “definite” list. I’d never forgive myself if I missed this. I’ve used my AUG in carbine classes before, where it’s all AR15s. When it comes to manipulations: “And you... just perform X like however you need to do it with that thing.”
Dan_S
11-15-2018, 04:22 AM
Thread for the group purchase started:
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?33880-P-F-AUG-Group-Purchase&p=811020#post811020
Dagga Boy
11-15-2018, 11:24 AM
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?33884-HiTS-Steyr-AUG-asymetric-carbine-course-2019
JSGlock34
11-15-2018, 02:47 PM
Die Hard December TM approaches, and this thread does inspire. Time to break the AUG out I suppose...
1slow
11-15-2018, 03:05 PM
DB, for my ignorance this is which variation, set up with what please ?
Also 30 vs 42 round mags ?
Thank you.
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Sorry you had put this in another thread. I hope it is OK to put it here
Dagga Boy
HiTS Steyr AUG asymetric carbine course-2019
I will be conducting an AUG specific class in the spring of 2019. Likely April and in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. The plan is for an easy paced two day course. The goal will be to get students to understand the benefits of the AUG rifles and maximize them and to understand the negative features and how to work around them. By specializing the material to what Pat Rogers called the Asymetric Carbine, students will get directed instruction on their rifle rather than trying to attend an AR based course and left to figure things out for themselves.
For those looking to acquire guns and accessories. I HIGHLY recommend PJ’s Steyr AUG as Pete has a very long history not just selling guns but being able to support them post sale. I recommend the new AUG A3 M1 with a rail and either a high quality low power variable or Aimpoint. Mounting optics behind the bolt locking notch is recommended. For aftermarket accessories I can recommend Corvus Defensio without hesitation. The owner is likely the top subject matter expert on the planet on running and supporting the AUG platform.
If you are planning on running a suppressed gun, do some extensive research. Just throwing a suppresor on the end of an AUG barrel is not a recipe for success. I also prefer guns that take AUG specific magazines rather than using NATO stocks to take AR pattern magazines.
Hope this helps and stand by for final dates and location.
Darryl Bolke-HiTS
RevolverRob
11-15-2018, 03:27 PM
Dagga Boy and others - what is the deal on running an AUG suppressed?
I started digging into it. Seems like an adjustable gas regulator is necessary to help control the back pressure. It's also not clear if the AUG suppresses as well as an AR?
WobblyPossum
11-17-2018, 06:12 PM
My PuP Light mount and Malkoff light came today. I like this setup a lot. It’s very easy to activate the light both left and right handed. There might be more Malkoff lights in my future.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181117/65fdb25456169b459f76c74a50f5138b.jpg
Dagga Boy and others - what is the deal on running an AUG suppressed?
I started digging into it. Seems like an adjustable gas regulator is necessary to help control the back pressure. It's also not clear if the AUG suppresses as well as an AR?
PJS now sells the adjustable gas regulators. Previously they were unobtainium in the US.
Sensei
11-18-2018, 01:04 AM
DB, for my ignorance this is which variation, set up with what please ?
Also 30 vs 42 round mags ?
Thank you.
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I’m not DB but that looks to by an A3 M1 with a Corvus Defensio receiver rail. Installation is not too hard if you have a heat gun. IMHO, it is the only solution for running most ACOGs as the other factory options are either too tall or too far forward for the eye relief. https://www.steyr-arms.com/us/cd-receiverrailm1se.html
That appears to be a 30-round magazine.
Dagga Boy and others - what is the deal on running an AUG suppressed?
I started digging into it. Seems like an adjustable gas regulator is necessary to help control the back pressure. It's also not clear if the AUG suppresses as well as an AR?
It does not suppress nearly as well. First, you will need to overcome the rather unique threat twist with this:
https://ratworxusa.com/product.rw-sua-stgau
You will also probably want a suppressor gas plug otherwise it’s going to be over gassed ($90): http://www.pjs-steyraug.com/augusrparts.html
Finally, it’s still going to seem gassy and about 5-10 dB louder than an AR.
WobblyPossum
11-18-2018, 08:47 PM
Out of curiosity, how do soldiers mount an IR laser to an AUG? Could a PEQ15 sized laser fit on that little rail next to the serial number? It looks like it wouldn’t be a problem on a gun with the CQC hand guards but what about a gun with the regular rail systems? The H2 sku rail seems like it would have enough space to mount a red dot, BUIS and a PEQ15 but not a larger laser. Pictures would be appreciated.
El Cid
11-18-2018, 09:27 PM
Out of curiosity, how do soldiers mount an IR laser to an AUG? Could a PEQ15 sized laser fit on that little rail next to the serial number? It looks like it wouldn’t be a problem on a gun with the CQC hand guards but what about a gun with the regular rail systems? The H2 sku rail seems like it would have enough space to mount a red dot, BUIS and a PEQ15 but not a larger laser. Pictures would be appreciated.
I was wondering the same. I have a CQBL-1 I could mount on there but trying to zero on a canted laser seems like a path to madness.
Sensei
11-18-2018, 09:48 PM
Out of curiosity, how do soldiers mount an IR laser to an AUG? Could a PEQ15 sized laser fit on that little rail next to the serial number? It looks like it wouldn’t be a problem on a gun with the CQC hand guards but what about a gun with the regular rail systems? The H2 sku rail seems like it would have enough space to mount a red dot, BUIS and a PEQ15 but not a larger laser. Pictures would be appreciated.
The F88s (and 90s) used by Australia have a different rail scheme than the factory A3 M1s. If you Google those rifles you’ll get tons of pictures demonstrating pimp’ed out AUG variants with lights and laser target designators at various positions. Having said that, the Corvus Defense rail will give you plenty of room at 12 o’clock for an ACOG or Aimpoint, PEQ15, and even back-up irons if you desire.
El Cid
11-19-2018, 05:50 PM
Out of curiosity, how do soldiers mount an IR laser to an AUG? Could a PEQ15 sized laser fit on that little rail next to the serial number? It looks like it wouldn’t be a problem on a gun with the CQC hand guards but what about a gun with the regular rail systems? The H2 sku rail seems like it would have enough space to mount a red dot, BUIS and a PEQ15 but not a larger laser. Pictures would be appreciated.
This should work pretty well.
Attach this forward pic rail with any VFG of your choosing: https://www.ratworxusa.com/product.20-fgr-auga3
Then use this Steiner 500 Lumen White Light / Green laser ($299): https://dsgarms.com/stn9017
Or this one with Light / Green laser / IR laser/ IR illum ($699): https://dsgarms.com/stn9027
Hunter Rose
11-20-2018, 12:58 AM
I'd be up for a class, provided I could bum a loaner rifle off someone....
If I have my second AUG by then I'll bring it.
El Cid
11-21-2018, 03:24 PM
Out of curiosity, how do soldiers mount an IR laser to an AUG? Could a PEQ15 sized laser fit on that little rail next to the serial number? It looks like it wouldn’t be a problem on a gun with the CQC hand guards but what about a gun with the regular rail systems? The H2 sku rail seems like it would have enough space to mount a red dot, BUIS and a PEQ15 but not a larger laser. Pictures would be appreciated.
Found these. It looks like the angled side rail is popular. Those rifles also look heavy.
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WobblyPossum
11-21-2018, 09:09 PM
The one with the M203 on it definitely doesn’t look light.
Jackdog
11-21-2018, 09:15 PM
Steyr Arms is having a huge Black Friday sale. 35% off accessories for the AUG. 42
Round mags for $20.80!
https://www.steyr-arms.com/us/blackfriday2018
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WobblyPossum
11-22-2018, 07:26 AM
How’s the muzzle brake compared to the flash hider? As part of the Black Friday sale, it’s available for $13.
El Cid
11-22-2018, 05:17 PM
How’s the muzzle brake compared to the flash hider? As part of the Black Friday sale, it’s available for $13.
After shooting mine I was surprised at how little the muzzle moved as is. But for $13 that’s an inexpensive experiment.
WobblyPossum
11-22-2018, 05:47 PM
After shooting mine I was surprised at how little the muzzle moved as is. But for $13 that’s an inexpensive experiment.
What’s really tempting me is the spare parts kit for $146. I think my girlfriend would kill me though since we’re trying to cut down on unnecessary spending.
Keebsley
11-23-2018, 03:18 PM
What’s really tempting me is the spare parts kit for $146. I think my girlfriend would kill me though since we’re trying to cut down on unnecessary spending.
Having spare parts for something that might break isn't unnecessary!
Notorious E.O.C.
11-23-2018, 06:58 PM
It's a $146 insurance policy that guarantees nothing will ever break so long as it's gathering dust under your workbench. I grabbed one along with the Corvus mag release. Would've picked up a brass deflector but you guys already bought them all.
On a tangent to light mounting, I may be a heretic here (wouldn't be the first time). But on a whim, I threw an older X300 on my M1's little factory side rail... and it's just about perfectly positioned. It's not all high-speed tapey-switchey and it doesn't have all the lumens, but I can flick it on and press the safety off in almost one smooth motion.
LOKNLOD
11-23-2018, 07:02 PM
Steyr Arms is having a huge Black Friday sale. 35% off accessories for the AUG. 42
Round mags for $20.80!
https://www.steyr-arms.com/us/blackfriday2018
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I was going to buy some mags for a rifle I don't own and you guys bought them all, apparently.
Thanks for keeping me out of trouble!
Notorious E.O.C.
11-23-2018, 07:09 PM
I was going to buy some mags for a rifle I don't own and you guys bought them all, apparently.
Thanks for keeping me out of trouble!
AIM Surplus carries Magpul AUSMAGs for a dollar less than Steyr had Steyr mags (https://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=MMAG575&name=Magpul+PMAG%c2%ae+30+AUS+GEN+M3%e2%84%a2+Wind ow+%e2%80%93+Steyr%c2%ae+AUG+-+Black&groupid=6796).
But if you want the real deal, 44Mag still has them on blowout prices, too (https://www.44mag.com/category/steyr).
Back into trouble you go!
El Cid
11-23-2018, 07:10 PM
I was going to buy some mags for a rifle I don't own and you guys bought them all, apparently.
Thanks for keeping me out of trouble!
Just call me the enabler.
https://www.44mag.com/category/steyr
Just call me the enabler.
https://www.44mag.com/category/steyr
I think you can shave a little more off of that with discount code “GARANDTHUMB”
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