We done this one yet? Browning .380 1911?

[Totem Polar]

I'm sure many of you get the same variety of push emails that I do, but in case anyone missed this:

http://www.gundigest.com/guns/handgun-reviews-articles/browning-set-to-release-a-1911-380-acp?et_mid=699715&rid=236016303

Blurb states same size as their .22 1911. Big for a .380, but the part of me staring "old man gun days" in the face, if even at a distance, likes.

OMWDV.

[Haraise]

Getting good. Been hoping for a 1911-9 that's been sized down, and with the 1911-22 and 1911-380, it's getting closer.

[Rosco Benson]

Getting good. Been hoping for a 1911-9 that's been sized down, and with the 1911-22 and 1911-380, it's getting closer.

Way back in the day, Jeff Cooper was fond of the Star BKS/Starlite. It was a scaled down, alloy framed, 9mm, approximation of a 1911 (in the basic look and operation). It lacked a grip safety (a good thing in Cooper's view, which I share).

Rosco

[Haraise]

Way back in the day, Jeff Cooper was fond of the Star BKS/Starlite. It was a scaled down, alloy framed, 9mm, approximation of a 1911 (in the basic look and operation). It lacked a grip safety (a good thing in Cooper's view, which I share).

Rosco

Yep, looked at the BKMs. They're too much like the Mustang for me though (1911 WITHOUT a straight pull trigger?).

[Drang]

Yep, looked at the BKMs. They're too much like the Mustang for me though (1911 WITHOUT a straight pull trigger?).

Wife has a BKM. It's actually a nice little pistol, but you're correct that the trigger pivots rather than pulls straight back.

[threedogdad]

I'm confident enough in my masculinity to admit that I am extremely excited about this. It'll just be for a fun gun, but I intend to buy the very first one I come across and start working on the 8,000 or so rounds of .380 ammo I have locked up in my basement. My 1911-22 has been very reliable and I expect Browning will do this one right as well. As someone who has owned three Colt Govt 380s (that exhibited disappointing reliability) and a couple of early Sig P238s (just so-so) over the years, I've been waiting a long time for this; a quality 1911 style 380 pistol.

[BigT]

Reminds me of the old Llama 380

[JonInWA]

It sounds like a potentially "cute" gun in search of a market paradigm that essentially passed circa 1970. I'd be far more impressed with a truly viable and vaguely affordable 9mm 1911 platform, including magazines with the dependability, longevity, and availability of Glock magazines...

And no, the Glock 42 doesn't do much for me either.

Best, Jon

[Trooper224]

Meh. :rolleyes:

[mosin46]

pony colt,the old Llama above. same same. not real sure of it's utility.

[45dotACP]

Not sure about the dollars short...but this idea is several days late. Especially considering a design that was put forth in...well in 1911.

:D

[Totem Polar]

The design of the modern violin was put forth in the 1600s...

:D

[ACP230]

My daughter likes 1911s and Browning HPs, to the point that she's always trying to promote the idea of me giving her one of my BHPs.
I told her about the Browning .380 1911 and she got an acquisitive tone in her voice.

She's going to have to buy her own. My only .380 is an antique, a Remington M51.
It's likely to stay my only .380, unless I find a real deal on a much smaller pocket gun.

[JonInWA]

Whenever I do an objective cost/benefits/performance/mission analysis of anything smaller-calibered than 9mm/.38 Special, I end up with a huge "Why?" being my answer. I'm pretty much firmly in the camp that with judicious holster nd clothing choices that I can successfully conceal carry, effectively conceal carry, and comfortably conceal carry pretty much anything from a G19 to a G21/4" .357 magnum 4" service revolver/1911/Hi-Power...So why do I need a sub-caliber pistol/revolver (.22 excepted, for training).

My experience with .380/9X18 Makarov blowback pistols is that they'll impart more recoil force back atcha'-a G19 with a Browning action is not only more effective, but more comfortable to shoot. The exception to this is probably the Glock G42, but I personally haven't seen the need to downsize from my G19 down to the G42.

Best, Jon

[Alpha Sierra]

I'd be far more impressed with a truly viable and vaguely affordable 38 Super 1911 platform, including magazines with the dependability, longevity, and availability of Glock magazines...

There, now better.......:)

[JonInWA]

LOL

(I guess you could haunt the auction sites for a SIG P220 accordingly chambered, but I'm uncertain as to magazine availability...and it's DA/SA...)

Best, Jon

[Tamara]

Whenever I do an objective cost/benefits/performance/mission analysis...

...I fall asleep face-down in my Cheerios. ;)

Kidding. Mostly.

Jeeze, y'all, not every handgun needs to fill a tactical assault combat critical dynamic niche. There are probably a million more practical .380/9mm CCW guns on the planet; on the other hand, very few of them are adorable little 5/8ths scale models of a gen-yoo-wine 1911. (Haraise is right: Pivoting-trigger Spaniards and their Horsie-wearing clones don't count.) I bet it's a hoot to shoot.

[Malamute]

...I fall asleep face-down in my Cheerios. ;)

Kidding. Mostly.

Jeeze, y'all, not every handgun needs to fill a tactical assault combat critical dynamic niche. There are probably a million more practical .380/9mm CCW guns on the planet; on the other hand, very few of them are adorable little 5/8ths scale models of a gen-yoo-wine 1911. (Haraise is right: Pivoting-trigger Spaniards and their Horsie-wearing clones don't count.) I bet it's a hoot to shoot.


^ ^ ^ Like.

Also, Old Man Gun.


The little Llama shrunken 1911's always struck me as very cute. I had a girlfriend that had one in 22 as a purse gun ages ago. I was a bit ahead of her on a trail once, I heard a shot and went back. She was sitting on the ground with her gun in a couple pieces. I asked her what she was doing,... she had seen a squirrel and took a shot at it, the slide flew forward off the gun and she was trying to put it back together. It was a bit funny then, and still makes me chuckle to think about it, though I'm glad she never needed the gun for protection.

[JonInWA]

...I fall asleep face-down in my Cheerios. ;)

Kidding. Mostly.

Jeeze, y'all, not every handgun needs to fill a tactical assault combat critical dynamic niche. There are probably a million more practical .380/9mm CCW guns on the planet; on the other hand, very few of them are adorable little 5/8ths scale models of a gen-yoo-wine 1911. (Haraise is right: Pivoting-trigger Spaniards and their Horsie-wearing clones don't count.) I bet it's a hoot to shoot.

Ok-point taken...I'll buy it...mostly. But my reality is that I have finite resources, both in terms of time, money, and shooting venues, so I've meandered away from my previous life pattern of trying to buy everything "neat" and concentrate on a relatively few platforms. I don't deny that such a gun might be very well made, and a great (and fun) shooter-but for me, it would simply be a distraction.

Of course, my argument sounds great, until confronted with the undeniable reality of me shooting my John Martz-restored P.08 Luger in our October IDPA match...

Best, Jon

[Edwin]

Dear Browning,

Please make a compact, alloy Hi Power and all will be forgiven.

Love,
Edwin

[Joe in PNG]

Actually, if Browning wants to go with retro .380's, they ought to bring back the 1910. But with sights.

[Trooper224]

Jeeze, y'all, not every handgun needs to fill a tactical assault combat critical dynamic niche. There are probably a million more practical .380/9mm CCW guns on the planet; on the other hand, very few of them are adorable little 5/8ths scale models of a gen-yoo-wine 1911. (Haraise is right: Pivoting-trigger Spaniards and their Horsie-wearing clones don't count.) I bet it's a hoot to shoot.

But a .380 caliber 1911 ain't 'murican! ;)

[JonInWA]

Great idea, Joe-resurrecting the 1910...and the grip safety could also go away...

Best, Jon