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NorthernHeat
10-15-2014, 05:23 PM
I have just picked up a new G34 Gen 4 for duty and would like to use the factory Medium beavertail backstrap that comes with it but it interferes with the 6360's SLS hood...

Anybody else having this problem or heard of a solution?

.... I have seen something Safariland has released saying not to use the Glock beavertail backstraps with their SLS holsters but the above stated question remains...

Thanks!

rathos
10-15-2014, 06:02 PM
I have seen other deputies cut the strap to fit the beavertail, but I am not sure what this does to the retention.

MD7305
10-15-2014, 06:33 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/15/4ca8882ded48777070926c4c4b2e3e8a.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/15/25e7bdc2d62ba56e1503f7f89593eb80.jpg

My G22 has the medium strap installed and the SLS strap does rest against the beavertail in it's locked position. It doesn't really interfere with the operation because when pressure is on the SLS it's already forward and rotating from the beavertail. You could always trim it from the underside a little to help out. Different applications may have differing results but mines been good since we got the 6360s.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/15/6f98ab18c7577f0a74c45b40ef352c65.jpg

This pick shows how the SLS drags on the holster body during normal operation.




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NorthernHeat
10-15-2014, 09:36 PM
I have seen the cutting of the strap, I was trying to stay away from this but will do it if necessary.

When I put the SLS back into the lock position, it stops a short way from locking because it contacts the beavertail.

I think the SLS is a little too thin to grind under, and the beavertail extends up higher than even the highest point of the SLS is thick, so even if I grinded all the way through the SLS, the beavertail would still be taller.

I am assuming cutting a half circle in the strap would possibly be the ticket...

MD7305
10-16-2014, 07:22 AM
That's weird, mine locks in place and the SLS only rests against the beavertail. If it were me, I would just trim around it. You can always get replacement parts from Safariland if you wanted to get a spare to experiment with.


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JHC
10-16-2014, 08:54 AM
Couldn't the beavertail still serve it's function pretty much if it were shaved down for clearance instead?

Up1911Fan
10-16-2014, 09:36 AM
Couldn't the beavertail still serve it's function pretty much if it were shaved down for clearance instead?

This is what I was thinking as well.

MD7305
10-16-2014, 10:20 AM
Couldn't the beavertail still serve it's function pretty much if it were shaved down for clearance instead?

Doh! I never considered that. Good thinking!

NorthernHeat
10-16-2014, 01:43 PM
So we are thinking trimming down/ reducing the actual beaver tail might be the solution?

saints75
10-18-2014, 07:21 PM
I have the large beaver tail on my G22. It worked fine. The hood lock like in the pictures. I could always unlock the hood and draw my weapon like normal. It was a non-issue for me.

Surf
10-19-2014, 07:52 PM
We just issued nearly 2000 6360's with Gen4's. For those with this problem, in a 2 day transition course the repetition of draw strokes made this a non issue after the 2 days. The hood seemed to loosen up just enough. On the other hand after personally seeing 650 of the 6360's, we did have about a dozen of them where the ALS did not release correct.

NorthernHeat
10-20-2014, 03:32 AM
That is odd that some fit fine with the beavertail backstraps and some don't.

I know for mine, the SLS hits the bevertail approx 1/4-1/2 of an inch before it is in the locked position, so while it does almost lock, forcing the SLS over the beavertail into the locked position is definetly something you can feel is not fitting smoothly.

I can force the SLS up over the beavertail into the lock position, but then drawing from the holster, the SLS catches on the top of the bevertail and pushes against the beavertail so hard you can bearly get the SLS down.... Definetly not smooth

Surf, can you go into more detail about what was the problem you were having with the ALS?

Surf
10-20-2014, 02:23 PM
Just about everyone who added a backstrap had this issue. You can also adjust tension with the tensioning block inside the bottom of the holster. After that it tends to loosen up on its own. All holsters will have a bit of variation.

The problem with the ALS was that it would not release well. The problem ALS holsters needed a very hard press to the rear for it to unlock. The ALS should release easily with just the thumb resting on it with a correct release on the SLS.

Our people went from a 070 holster which requires a rock back. This new holster is completely opposite and that was the hardest thing to retrain our people. Once you start "thumbing" for the ALS you draw is screwed. A good draw and sub 1's is reasonable and .8's or less is doable

NorthernHeat
10-20-2014, 02:52 PM
I was having problems when I took the holster right out of the package and inserted the gun it felt like the gun was stuck .

I would put my 17 In the same holster and would have no problems with fit or release but when I would put the 34 in it would feel like it was stuck.

I realized I had to loosen the block at the bottom of the holster and that helped some.

Do you think if I forced the strap up over the beavertail and let it sit that would loosen it up enough to make the SLS lock and be usable and smooth?

Wendell
05-14-2021, 11:24 PM
This is from August 2, 2013, but I didn't see it until today:

Safariland® Duty Gear Service Bulletin
Re: GLOCK Gen4 Beavertail Back Strap - Holster Service Bulletin
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0086/8689/5184/files/glock-gen4-beavertail-20130802.pdf?v=1589558082

Wendell
05-17-2021, 05:31 PM
I don't understand why Safariland doesn't offer a longer/higher hood as an option.

Beavertails are one thing, but not working with aftermarket sights? (I don't get it.)