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acaixguard
08-26-2014, 01:52 PM
I am looking for a vertical kydex holster for a G17, with these specific requirements....

1. Straight drop scabbard style (not the pancake styles that are more popular today)
2. 1.5" belt loops that are permanently fixed to the holster body (no adjustable removable clips, wings, etc).
3. Speed cut where the entire ejection port is exposed.
4. IDPA legal
5. Prefer it to be all kydex...no suede or leather lining inside.

A good example would be the old Comp-tac belt holster, or the classic ones Blade-tech used to offer. Unfortunately, Comp-tac has gone to the International model which allows for various attachment methods which I do not want. Same goes for blade tech.

If you've ever seen Ron Avery's video on the draw stroke, he uses something that I would like...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMSlCyc-SQQ

Thanks for any help or suggestions.

littlejerry
08-26-2014, 02:02 PM
I am looking for a vertical kydex holster for a G17, with these specific requirements....

1. Straight drop scabbard style (not the pancake styles that are more popular today)
2. 1.5" belt loops that are permanently fixed to the holster body (no adjustable removable clips, wings, etc).
3. Speed cut where the entire ejection port is exposed.
4. IDPA legal
5. Prefer it to be all kydex...no suede or leather lining inside.

A good example would be the old Comp-tac belt holster, or the classic ones Blade-tech used to offer. Unfortunately, Comp-tac has gone to the International model which allows for various attachment methods which I do not want. Same goes for blade tech.

If you've ever seen Ron Avery's video on the draw stroke, he uses something that I would like...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMSlCyc-SQQ

Thanks for any help or suggestions.
Ready tacticsl makes a holster very similar to the old Comp TAC belt holster. Sold by SKD and CPWSA

acaixguard
08-26-2014, 02:13 PM
Thanks. I saw that, but does it only come with 1.75" belt loops?

littlejerry
08-26-2014, 03:16 PM
Thanks. I saw that, but does it only come with 1.75" belt loops?

http://m.cpwsa.com/ready-tactical-uspsa-idpa-holster

Eta: I'm also mourning the passing of the comp TAC holster. Definitely my preferred style in a competition rig. Much lower profile than all of the pancake rigs.

orionz06
08-26-2014, 06:27 PM
Not sure you're gonna find many options but Dale Fricke, I believe, has been making holsters long enough to have been in that time and his Gideon Elite (http://dalefrickeholsters.com/product/gideon-elite-holster/) seems to fit the bill, except the loop is not built in.

Peters Custom Holsters did some of that style for a friend a while back, perhaps they can make another.


Ultimately though I would question the desire for the integral loop.




http://m.cpwsa.com/ready-tactical-uspsa-idpa-holster

Eta: I'm also mourning the passing of the comp TAC holster. Definitely my preferred style in a competition rig. Much lower profile than all of the pancake rigs.

What pancake holsters are you using that are not lower profile than the holster style mentioned above?

ST911
08-26-2014, 07:56 PM
I've been using the A10 and mag pouches from Talon Tactical for my gen4 G17 all year. Belt loops are 1.5" and integrally molded.
http://www.talontactical.com/belt-holster-autos-p-1129.html
http://www.talontactical.com/pistol-pouch-p-1137.html

littlejerry
08-26-2014, 08:04 PM
Not sure you're gonna find many options but Dale Fricke, I believe, has been making holsters long enough to have been in that time and his Gideon Elite (http://dalefrickeholsters.com/product/gideon-elite-holster/) seems to fit the bill, except the loop is not built in.

Peters Custom Holsters did some of that style for a friend a while back, perhaps they can make another.


Ultimately though I would question the desire for the integral loop.





What pancake holsters are you using that are not lower profile than the holster style mentioned above?

I should clarify that I'm referring to width, not thickness. The excess material with the belt loops spaced in front of and behind the gun tends to block access to my front pocket. My only experience has been with a local guy and DSG arms.

I haven't tried a Dark Star pancake. I'd like to at some point but I can't figure out when I'd use it: Owb is competition only for me. Everything else is AIWB.

orionz06
08-26-2014, 08:28 PM
I should clarify that I'm referring to width, not thickness. The excess material with the belt loops spaced in front of and behind the gun tends to block access to my front pocket. My only experience has been with a local guy and DSG arms.

I haven't tried a Dark Star pancake. I'd like to at some point but I can't figure out when I'd use it: Owb is competition only for me. Everything else is AIWB.

Ahh, makes more sense. I hate that as well. Kinda sorta how I kinda sorta got suckered into turning my dungeon into a kydex dungeon. Mine are narrower but not as narrow as the OWB competition style. I use a Comp-Tac International for games. Just makes the most sense.

Lon
08-26-2014, 08:56 PM
I've got a ready tactical holster for my 686SSR I use for USPSA/NRA Action Pistol. Good holster. Back when I made my own kydex, I preferred to make the scabbard style. Still my preference for carry when I OWB and don't use an ALS holster. Nowadays, that usually means a gun game.

Lon
08-26-2014, 09:00 PM
I have thought about trying one of these: http://www.jmcustomkydex.com/p/OWB-V2.html

Kinda combine both designs. I tried to make a design like this but was never happy with it. Tony's design looks much superior to what I came up with.

Up1911Fan
08-26-2014, 09:57 PM
I have one of these for a G17 ( the JM mentioned above). Works well. RLN also meets your requirements.

acaixguard
08-26-2014, 11:37 PM
I actually like the JM OWB-2 a lot, and it will probably be my next holster I use for carry or training classes. But I do want something with the speed cut in front, while still being IDPA legal.

JTQ
08-27-2014, 07:41 AM
K Rounds http://www.krounds.com/owb-holsters-the-competition-kydex-belt-holster-p-67.html

Hillsman http://www.hillsmanholster.com

Fin Designs http://www.findesigns.net/fin.html

Center of Mass http://comholsters.com/catalog/index.php (this website has changed a bunch since I last visited)

Kytac http://www.tds-us.com/catalog.php/tds/dt92757/pd2147423/KYTAC_SOOPER_HOOPER_BELT_LOCKER_-_G17_22 (my understanding is you don't want to buy direct from the maker)

Alabama Holster http://www.alabamaholster.com/product/the-ranger/

Talon Tactical (already mentioned) http://www.talontactical.com

Ready Tactical (already mentioned) http://cpwsa.com/products/ready-tactical-uspsa-idpa-holster

Dale Fricke (already mentioned, though not a one piece design like the others) http://dalefrickeholsters.com/product/gideon-elite-holster/

JTQ
08-27-2014, 11:54 AM
Center of Mass http://comholsters.com/catalog/index.php (this website has changed a bunch since I last visited)
Had I read the website prior to posting that comment, I would have realized the change is due to the death of the founder of the company and a transfer of ownership.

My sympathy goes out to the family of Rick Palmer. While I have not owned any of his products, I believe COM had a good reputation on the web for quality and customer service.

VolGrad
08-28-2014, 07:10 AM
Fin Designs http://www.findesigns.net/fin.html

Talon Tactical (already mentioned) http://www.talontactical.com


These are the two that came to my mind as well. I have both and LOVE them both. Not sure if FIN will cut to expose the ejection port like you want and off top of my head can't recall how low mine are cut. Also, not sure if my FINs are IDPA legal. I am sure Mike at Talon would make whatever you want. He is an IDPA guy so he could make sure whatever he makes would conform.

acaixguard
08-28-2014, 11:00 PM
K Rounds http://www.krounds.com/owb-holsters-the-competition-kydex-belt-holster-p-67.html

Hillsman http://www.hillsmanholster.com

Fin Designs http://www.findesigns.net/fin.html

Center of Mass http://comholsters.com/catalog/index.php (this website has changed a bunch since I last visited)

Kytac http://www.tds-us.com/catalog.php/tds/dt92757/pd2147423/KYTAC_SOOPER_HOOPER_BELT_LOCKER_-_G17_22 (my understanding is you don't want to buy direct from the maker)

Alabama Holster http://www.alabamaholster.com/product/the-ranger/

Talon Tactical (already mentioned) http://www.talontactical.com

Ready Tactical (already mentioned) http://cpwsa.com/products/ready-tactical-uspsa-idpa-holster

Dale Fricke (already mentioned, though not a one piece design like the others) http://dalefrickeholsters.com/product/gideon-elite-holster/

Thanks so much for this list. I checked out most of these and some of them are pretty close to what I'd like.

As it turns out though, I located a used but excellent condition Comp-Tac belt holster that someone is willing to sell me. It's the prior "generation" one before they changed the styling of the outside to include the logo and name of the pistol on the outside, which is what I prefer too.

JTQ
08-29-2014, 07:47 AM
It's the prior "generation" one before they changed the styling of the outside to include the logo and name of the pistol on the outside, which is what I prefer too.
I agree.

I'm assuming the new design is easier for Comp-Tac to make, but I also prefer the older look to the new.

By the way, the Comp-Tac belt holster is still available for other guns. I suspect the International is also easier for them to produce and they'd rather make that than the belt holster which is why they dropped the G17 from the belt holster option.

orionz06
08-29-2014, 07:55 AM
I would say the international is not only easier to make but the belt loop options add a lot more value. A fitment on the belt close to the older style can be had so there's really no disadvantage. The only difference is that the folks who want one piece and no fasteners won't get that type of holster but the new style is stronger anyway.