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ToddG
03-10-2014, 06:10 AM
Results may be posted until 11:59 EST on Tuesday 1-April-2014
You may do as many or as few of these drills as you wish.

Only post your results or questions about the drills in this thread. It is not intended for general discussion about drills or other people's results.

You may post results for any one drill only once per month. If you shoot a particular drill more than once, do not keep updating your results with new posts. They will be deleted without warning. However, you can post each individual drill (e.g., Drill 91 and Drill 92) separately if you do not do them all at once.



Drill 91: G&R Tactical Drill #1
Range: 10yd
Target: IDPA Target ("level 1") or NRA B8 (http://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=281&d=1322428748) + IDPA head ("level 2")
Start position: holstered, hands a sides
Rounds fired: 15

All shooting is from the holster and done freestyle.


Load gun with four rounds; have spare magazine with at least one round.
On buzzer, draw and fire four rounds to body (IDPA 8in -0 zone "level 1" or black 10/9-rings of NRA B8 "level 2")
Reload, one round to 6x6 head box of IDPA target.
Repeat for a total of three runs, 15 rounds

Misses to the body (-0 zone "level 1" or black of NRA B8 "level 2") add two seconds to your time. Missing the head shot is an automatic fail.

Passing time is 8 seconds or less per 5-shot run.

If you cannot draw from a holster, remove one second from the PAR time and report your score from a ready position which has the muzzle off the target by at least three feet for the beginning of each string.

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

"level 1" or "level 2" attempt
pistol and holster used
Hits and times for each run, pass or fail


Drill's creator demonstrating this and the next drill:

http://youtu.be/BL-VV8UN4Gs

Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.



Drill 92: G&R Tactical Drill #2
Range: 10yd
Target: IDPA Target
Start position: holstered, hands a sides
Rounds fired: 18

All shooting is from the holster and done freestyle.


Load one magazine with three rounds; one magazine with two rounds; and one magazine with one round.
Randomly place one magazine in the gun without knowing how many rounds are in it; place the other two magazines in your magazine pouches randomly.
On buzzer, draw and fire until empty, reload, fire until empty, reload, fire until empty.
Repeat for a total of three runs, 18 rounds


Misses to the body (-0 zone) add two seconds to your time.

Passing time is 11 seconds or less per 6-shot run.

If you cannot draw from a holster, remove one second from the PAR time and report your score from a ready position which has the muzzle off the target by at least three feet for the beginning of each string.

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

pistol and holster used
Hits and times for each run, pass or fail


Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.



Drill 93: Surprise Reload Drill
(originally posted 16-July-2012 as Drill 36 and was the pistol-training.com Drill of the Week 17-Feb-2008)

Range: 7 yards
Target: 8" circle
Start position: concealed
Rounds fired: 27

This drill determines how much time is added to our reload when we don't plan for it at a specific point during a string of fire.

First, establish a baseline. Draw and fire 1 round at the 8" circle, reload, and fire two more rounds at the 8" circle. Record the time for the reload (time between first and second shot). If you missed any of the three shots, repeat until you get a clean run.

Next, randomly load a total of 24 rounds into five magazines (or 23 if you've got a round in your chamber already). Make sure there are at least two rounds in each magazine.

Next, you'll work on the surprise reloads. On the buzzer you will draw and fire exactly three rounds. If at any point your gun runs dry, reload it and finish the three shots. If the pistol goes dry after the three rounds are fired, simply reload it and reholster without firing any additional shots. You should get eight reps of the 3-shot drill.

Each time you reload within the 3-shot string (as opposed to after firing all three), record the time it took you to perform the reload. Find the average of time of those reloads.

Note: you can cheat by purposely setting up your magazines to go empty at known times... in which case you might as well not do the drill.

Please report the following when responding to this thread:
• Start position (concealed, retention holster, open/range holster, ready position)
• Time for the first "planned" reload
• Average time for the "unplanned" reloads
• Number of hits (out of 72) on the 8" circle

Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.



Drill 94: The 4567 Drill
(originally posted 17-Dec-2012 as DotW #58)

designed by Chris Edwards (Glock Professional, Inc.) and Todd Louis Green
Range: 7yd
Target: 6" circle (download pdf here (http://pistol-training.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/6in-circ-1in-sq.pdf))
Start position: varies, see below
Rounds fired: 20

The 4567 was inspired by Gila Hayes’s “5Χ4″ drill and the various iterations thereof.

The drill is run four times, five rounds each, on a six inch circle, at seven yards. A shot timer is used to begin each string of fire. The four strings of fire are:


draw and fire 5 rounds from concealment, two-handed
draw and fire 5 rounds from concealment, strong hand only
from the ready position fire 5 rounds, weak hand only
draw and fire 5 rounds from concealment, two-handed (repeat of string 1)


For any shot outside of the 6″ circle, add 1 second to your time. Total the times (and penalties) for all four strings to determine your overall score:

Basic score total time with penalties is 4+5+6+7 = 22 seconds
Intermediate is 5+6+7 seconds = 18 seconds
Advanced is 6+7 = 13 seconds

Please report the following when responding to this thread:
• Start position (concealed, retention holster, open/range holster, ready position)
• Time and hits for each string
• Total time, hits, and rating

Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

JV_
03-10-2014, 07:08 AM
Drill 91

Level 1
Glock 17 / AIWB / NOT Concealed

3.55
3.51
3.45

All Clean.

2alpha-down0
03-10-2014, 09:58 AM
Drill 91:

M&P 9/JM Custom Kydex AIWB
-Level 1: 5.83c (pass), 5.70c (pass), 5.76c (pass)
-Level 2: 6.27c (pass), 6.60+2=8.60(fail), 6.84c (pass)

G23 Gen4/Safariland 6280
-Level 1: 8.09c (fail), 7.73+4=11.73(fail), 6.82c(pass)

AJZ
03-10-2014, 10:19 PM
Drill 91:
Gun: NHC FLX9 in Keeper AIWB under Pullover
Level 2
- 8.07 Clean (FTF) Time Fail
- 6.97 Clean Pass
- 6.73 Clean Pass

Mikey
03-12-2014, 08:01 AM
Drill 91: Level 1
Gun: G34, Bladetech OWB holster concealed via shoot me first vest

5.63 (+2) = 7.63
6.02 Clean
5.87 Clean

BN
03-12-2014, 10:21 AM
Drill 91: Level 1
Gun CZ Custom DA/SA CZ-75 Blade Tech holster open carry
5.51 clean pass
5.64 clean pass
5.89 clean pass

Drill 92
Gun CZ-75 Blade Tech Open carry
8.67 (+2) 10.67 pass
9.26 pass
9.62 pass

Drill 93
Gun CZ-75 Blade Tech Open Carry
first planned reload: 1.97
Average time for 3 unplanned reloads: 2.66
All hits in circle
I bobbled 2 of the unplanned reloads.

Drill 94
CZ-75 Blade Tech concealed by 5:11 vest.
4.41 clean
5.43 clean
5.16 clean
4.20 clean
Total time: 19.20 clean Basic rating.

It was a beautiful day in South Eastern Ohio yesterday when I shot these. :) Unlike today. :(

2alpha-down0
03-18-2014, 11:03 AM
Drill 92
S&W M&P9, JM Custom Kydex AIWB

7.73 -0
8.79 -0
8.63 -0


Drill 93
S&W M&P9, JM Custom Kydex AIWB (concealed)

1R2 baseline: 2.39
Average time for 4 unplanned reloads: 2.43
25/27 hits

Chris Rhines
03-20-2014, 09:32 PM
All drills shot with CZ SP-01 AccuShadow from a Blade-Tech Black Ice belt holster, worn openly, surrender start. I used a USPSA target rather than an IDPA target, because that's what I had on hand.

Drill #91
1 - 3.61s clean.
2 - 3.43s clean.
3 - 3.49s clean.

Drill #92
1 - 5.99 + 2.00 = 7.99s.
2 - 12.37s clean. Major stoppage on reload #2.
3 - 6.62 + 2.00 = 8.62s.
Save for the nasty malfunction, reloads were all in the 1.7x-1.8x range.

Drill #93
Money reload = 1.64s.
1 - 2.06s.
2 - off the clock.
3 - off the clock.
4 - 1.77s.
5 - off the clock.
Note - I hate this drill, because every time I set it up I end up doing most of the reloads off the clock. I think that I may be hexed.

Drill #94
3.19s clean.
5.17s clean.
4.89s clean.
3.48s clean.
Total = 16.73. Doing this drill clean in under 13 seconds would be pretty solid shooting by my lights.

98z28
03-21-2014, 06:27 PM
All drills shot with M&P9f (iron sights) from a SME under an untucked polo

Drill 91: G&R Tactical Drill #1

Level 1 attempt

7.79 clean, pass
7.01 clean, pass
7.50 + 4 = 11.50 (-2B -1H), fail. Flubbed the draw on the last run and rushed to make it up. Didn't work out so well.


Drill 92: G&R Tactical Drill #2

10.89 + 6 = 16.89 (-3), fail. Not a great drill to try cold.
10.11 clean, pass
10.95 clean, pass. Hooked the baseplate of the third mag when I drew the first reload. Last mag fell to the deck. Ran the gun dry, retrieved the last mag, reloaded, and still finished in time. Guess I could have gone faster on the first two runs.


Drill 93: Surprise Reload Drill

Baseline (cold): 3.07
Average of four unplanned reloads: 2.89
26/27 hits


Drill 94: The 4567 Drill

4.03 + 2 = 6.03 (-2)
5.49 (-0)
7.90 (-0)
4.55 (-0)
Total = 23.97

Not even basic with penalties.

GJM
03-21-2014, 07:48 PM
Drill 94, Chris Edwards 4,5,6,7

All open carry, Blade-Tech OWB

CZ SP01 Shadow
2.33
3.23
3.29 -1
2.17
11.02 + 1= 12.02


Beretta Elite II
2.34
3.60
4.34
2.17
12.45

P01
2.42
3.53
4.61
2.51
13.07

SP01 Shadow
2.22
3.72
4.14
1.97
12.05

GJM
03-22-2014, 01:13 PM
I had fun with this -- both because I have a Rogers class coming up, and it is a fun way to shoot/compare some different platforms. I did more this morning.

P226
2.26
3.28
4.14
2.47 -1
12.15 + 1= 13.15

Elite II
2.26
3.67
4.02
2.43
12.38

Glock 17
2.19
2.88 -1
3.56
2.52
11.15 + 1= 12.15

SP01 Shadow
2.34
2.94
3.61
2.29
11.18

Guess they all shoot fine and it is a matter of picking the one you like.

Peally
03-22-2014, 09:15 PM
Noob here, I had a great time with these drills. I have a lot to work on!

Drill 91

(Level 1, HK45, Raven Phantom with retention)

- 10.53 (down 1) Time fail
- 7.69 Pass
- 6.72 Pass

Drill 92

(HK45, Raven Phantom with retention)

- 10.53 Pass
- 11.73 (down 1) Time fail
- 12.00 (down 1) Time fail

Corey
03-23-2014, 11:11 AM
Smith & Wesson M&P9 full size, Blade-Tech IDPA holster, open front concealment.

Drill 91: reported in separate thread.

Drill 92:
1. 9.97 clean, Pass
2. 8.92 clean, Pass
3. 9.27 clean, Pass

Drill 93:
Known reload: 1.87 (a better then usual run for me, usually I am closer to 2.00)
Average of 4 surprised reloads: 2.41 seconds
Only 1 missed shot for all the runs.

Drill 94:
1. 3.60 (-1)
2. 4.92 clean
3. 3.97 clean
4. 3.61 clean
Total: 17.10 Intermediate

MD7305
03-26-2014, 04:38 PM
Drill 91
Duty Glock 22 Gen.4 w/TLR-1, Safariland 6360, and covered, snapped mag pouches.
1.) 6.00
2.) 5.80
3.) 5.59

OffDuty Glock 22k, Gen.4, Shaggy, pullover.
1.) 8.96 -Fail, severly fumbled reload.
2.) 6.14
3.) 5.81

Drill 92
Duty Glock 22, Gen.4 w/TLR-1, Safariland 6360, and covered, snapped mag pouches.
1.) 10.44
2.) 8.97
3.) 9.35 (-1) = 11.35 (Fail)

OffDuty Glock 22k, Gen.4, Shaggy, pullover
1.) 11.24 Fail
2.) 10.67
3.) 9.08

Drill 93
Duty Glock 22, Gen.4 w/TLR-1, Safariland 6360, and covered, snapped mag pouches.
Baseline: 5.28
Avg: 5.48 -All runs clean.

OffDuty Glock 22k, Gen.4, Shaggy, pullover
Baseline: 4.73
Avg: 5.27 -All runs clean

Drill 94
Duty Glock 22, Gen.4 w/TLR-1, Safariland 6360, and covered, snapped mag pouches.
1.) 3.59
2.) 4.05 (-1) = 5.05
3.) 5.17 (-1) = 6.17
4.) 3.73
Total: 18.54 Basic

OffDuty Glock 22k, Gen.4, Shaggy, pullover
1.) 3.39 (-1) = 4.39
2.) 5.10 (-1) = 6.10
3.) 5.79
4.) 3.68
Total: 19.96 Basic

Observations: First trip to the range in awhile and first drills in a very long time, it shows. Time to buckle down again!

MrAl
03-27-2014, 04:53 PM
Drill 91:

Glock 17, Bladetch, IDPA target

5.6 (-1) = 7.6 pass
5.62(-3) = 11.62 (not proud of this)
5.63 (-2) = 9.63 (not proud of this either)

Drill 94 :

Glock 17, Bladetech

3.53 (-1)
4.48 (-2)
5.51 (-3)
3.21 (-2)

Time : 16.73 + 8(!^*&$) = 24.73

Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk

JHC
03-30-2014, 11:51 AM
Drill 92

•pistol and holster used - Gen 4 Glock 26 Talon OWB under open jacket
•Hits and times for each run, pass or fail

7.99 sec plus 2 seconds for 1 C-zone = 9.99

7.60 sec plus 4 seconds for 2 C-zone = 11.60 (fail)

8.93 sec clean

Mr_White
03-31-2014, 12:49 PM
All drills shot with out of a Keeper, from concealment, out of a Gen3 G34.

Drill 91 (G&R Tactical Drill #1, level one):

3.61c
3.95c
3.65c

Drill 92 (G&R Tactical Drill #2):

8.25 (6.25 -1)
6.32c
4.78c

Drill 94 (Chris Edwards' 4567 Drill):

2.26 -1
3.64
3.45
2.29

11.64 + 1.0 = 12.64

DocGKR
03-31-2014, 02:13 PM
G19 from JM Custom AIWB concealed under long Polo shirt, TNF Apex vest, and Gortex Parka
Drill 91. G&R Tactical Drill #1: 5.31/5.79/5.16 clean on IDPA target (level 1).
Drill 92. G&R Tactical Drill #2: 9.56 (caught garment on reload), 8.07, 8.21 all clean
Drill 93. Surprise Reload Drill: 2.57 planned; 2.67 ave w/26 hits in circle
Drill 94. Chris Edwards 4567: 2.63/4.33/4.79/2.39 = 14.14s clean is Intermediate.

Take home: Reloads are harder from under 3 layers of clothing. I have not been shooting enough, especially one handed over the past year.