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TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 08:17 PM
So Caleb started the ball rolling with:

I would totally play 90s Action Shooting. Everyone gets Browning Hi-Powers and puffy jackets.

OrigamiAK responded with:

Me too. I was thinking 3rd gen Smiths, Beretta 92s, and Hydra Shoks, under some Cross Colours attire. I will warm up my language by watching Menace II Society.

LSP972:

Don't forget P226s…

Caleb:

All guns will be carried cross draw in a leather holster or mexican-style appendix in your blue jeans with a flannel shirt for concealment.

Your truly asked:

Hmm... So, I could rock the USP but would LEM be cool?

LSP972:

Good question. The LEM was developed after HK's disastrous first attempt at jumping on the "DAO" bandwagon to sell hardware to the multitude of clueless US police administrators. Known as the V7, it was/is, without doubt, the most egregious trigger _I_ have ever tried on a handgun (if you have a LEM, pull the trigger on an empty chamber, and then pull it again without cycling the slide. Imagine doubling THAT, if you can, and you have HK's original V7). Needless to say, they didn't sell many of them. I have seen exactly two in my travels, etc.

Thing is, I'm not sure exactly when the LEM appeared. I want to say post-2000, but I just don't know for certain.

But, in any event, you'd be flirting with the spirit of the game. While the USP "officially" was launched in 1993 or so, they really didn't get out there in any numbers until quite a while after that. IIRC, it was 1995 before I even was able to put my hands on one.

For me, I'd have the same problem I had with the P226; small hands. If Sig hadn't come up with the short trigger when they did, I would have had to settle for a 5906. On the one hand, that boat anchor would have served me adequately. On the other hand… well, I'd rather not think about the other hand…

PPGMD
02-11-2014, 08:25 PM
Glock 17 legal?

ST911
02-11-2014, 08:27 PM
I may still have a Members Only jacket here somewhere...

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 08:35 PM
Why Retro Action Pistol Shooting? Because acronyms.

Also, because I perceive that there's interest in multiple divisions, I'll throw out some ideas:

* 70's division aka "Kojak/Hawaii Five-0" -- nylon sportswear, trucker beards or pornstar 'staches; Colt Pythons and (other) big-ass revolvers in 45LC/44Mag

* 80's division aka "Magnum PI/Miami Vice" -- mandatory hair gel (for those with hair); 1911s in 45ACP, S&W semi-autos, 38/357 revolvers

* 90's division aka "Leon: The Professional" -- puffy jackets, watch caps, flannel, goatees; Hi-Power, P226, 92FS, G17, USP (non-LEM), etc

Given Caleb's trucker-style facial hair in his last 90-second review I bet he's one thrift-shop visit away from dominating the 70's division. Assuming Jerry doesn't dig a leisure suit out of the attic and show up in full "I remember the 70's like they were yesterday" style to sweep the field.

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 08:36 PM
Glock 17 legal?

90's division. Just make sure you don't get any of the (mandatory) hair gel into the works. :)

ETA: Whoops, messed that one up. Should have said: "Just make sure you don't get your flannel shirt or facial hair caught in the slide."

Joe in PNG
02-11-2014, 08:46 PM
Why Retro Action Pistol Shooting? Because acronyms.

Also, because I perceive that there's interest in multiple divisions, I'll throw out some ideas:

* 70's division aka "Kojak/Hawaii Five-0" -- nylon sportswear, trucker beards or pornstar 'staches and big-ass revolvers in 45LC/44Mag

* 80's division aka "Magnum PI/Miami Vice" -- mandatory hair gel (for those with hair); 1911s in 45ACP, S&W semi-autos, 38/357 revolvers

* 90's division aka "Leon: The Professional" -- puffy jackets, watch caps, flannel, goatees; Hi-Power, P226, 92FS, G17, USP (non-LEM), etc

Given Caleb's trucker-style facial hair in his last 90-second review I bet he's one thrift-shop visit away from dominating the 70's division. Assuming Jerry doesn't dig a leisure suit out of the attic and show up in full "I remember the 70's like they were yesterday" style to sweep the field.

There should be extra points if, say, you show up to shoot the 80's division with a Bren 10. Or the 90's with at least six Beretta 92's while wearing a black trenchcoat and sunglasses, Chow Yung Fat style.

SecondsCount
02-11-2014, 08:47 PM
Wasn't the CZ 75 a hot commodity back then but unobtanium due to the iron curtain?

orionz06
02-11-2014, 08:48 PM
Mother of god! Can I sponsor this?

PPGMD
02-11-2014, 08:49 PM
Given Caleb's trucker-style facial hair in his last 90-second review I bet he's one thrift-shop visit away from dominating the 70's division. Assuming Jerry doesn't dig a leisure suit out of the attic and show up in full "I remember the 70's like they were yesterday" style to sweep the field.

LOL.

I am going for the 90's division. Glock 17, puffy jacket, and a watch cap.

You know we should do this for one of the major matches. We can allow modern holsters and belt, but all the other clothes, gear, and guns have to fit into one of the RAPS divisions.

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 08:50 PM
There should be extra points if, say, you show up to shoot the 80's division with a Bren 10. Or the 90's with at least six Beretta 92's while wearing a black trenchcoat and sunglasses, Chow Yung Fat style.

Oh, hell yes. As long as they're all in good holsters and you can draw and holster safely, why not?

Pretty much means there has to be a dump box at every shooting station, though. :)

Chuck Haggard
02-11-2014, 08:51 PM
The 1970s says you left out Colt Pythons..........



http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_(TV_Series)

jlw
02-11-2014, 08:55 PM
Glock 17 legal?

No. Since it is retro, you have to shoot a Glock 7. Instead of your pistol fitting in a box you have to get through a metal detector without it being detected.

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 08:55 PM
Mother of god! Can I sponsor this?

Can you roll-print a cheesy basketweave texture onto hot Kydex and make it so the holster flaps around when you run? :cool:

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 08:56 PM
The 1970s says you left out Colt Pythons..........

Happy now?

PPGMD
02-11-2014, 08:59 PM
No. Since it is retro, you have to shoot a Glock 7. Instead of your pistol fitting in a box you have to get through a metal detector without it being detected.

Oh that is simple airport security sucked in the 90's. Just point to metal in my prosthetic leg and no one will check anywhere else.

Although none of the components of my prosthetic existed in the 90s.

orionz06
02-11-2014, 08:59 PM
Can you roll-print a cheesy basketweave texture onto hot Kydex and make it so the holster flaps around when you run? :cool:

I was thinking more along the lines of paying for the big haired RSO's straight out of a Van Halen video.

PPGMD
02-11-2014, 09:01 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of paying for the big haired RSO's straight out of a Van Halen video.

I want to see a RSO dressed like Angus Young.

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 09:07 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of paying for the big haired RSO's straight out of a Van Halen video.

Proposed rule: participants must select a division-era-appropriate song to play while they are staging up to shoot, shooting their stage, and tallying score/resetting.

Procedurals will be assessed for music release dates not matching division decade, or music shouted down as being particularly unlistenable by the spectators;
Bonus points may be awarded if the crowd spontaneously begins singing along, and for epic air guitar solos and/or vocal performances after "unload and show clear"...

PPGMD
02-11-2014, 09:13 PM
Proposed rule: participants must select a division-era-appropriate song to play while they are staging up to shoot, shooting their stage, and tallying score/resetting.

Procedurals will be assessed for music release dates not matching division decade, or music shouted down as being particularly unlistenable by the spectators;
Bonus points may be awarded if the crowd spontaneously begins singing along, and for epic air guitar solos and/or vocal performances after "unload and show clear"...

Oh wow that makes things hard, as the music I like is mostly from the 80s.

Hmm Thunderstruck was released in 1990.

Do we have to pick a song per a stage?

Chuck Haggard
02-11-2014, 09:16 PM
This scenario must be part of the match;

http://www.thegunzone.com/software/zubiena.html

Joe in PNG
02-11-2014, 09:16 PM
Oh, hell yes. As long as they're all in good holsters and you can draw and holster safely, why not?

Pretty much means there has to be a dump box at every shooting station, though. :)

Kind of puts a damper on the proper Hong Kong Reload:

1) Shoot Berettas akimbo at target until empty
2) Gently toss empty Berettas to the side
3) Spin dramatically so trenchcoat flares open while drawing more Berettas
4) Repeat

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 09:16 PM
Oh wow that makes things hard, as the music I like is mostly from the 80s.

Hmm Thunderstruck was released in 1990.

Do we have to pick a song per a stage?

I would wager that repeating the same song on 4 stages would be a gamble, depending on the mood of the crowd. Would you want to risk a procedural per thumbs-down from the peanut gallery simply because you couldn't come up with more than one song to play? :)

Kyle Reese
02-11-2014, 09:18 PM
How about a pre-1950 military handgun comp?

Rock a TT33 or P38.

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 09:18 PM
This scenario must be part of the match;

http://www.thegunzone.com/software/zubiena.html

That has "classifier" written all over it.

PPGMD
02-11-2014, 09:20 PM
I would wager that repeating the same song on 4 stages would be a gamble, depending on the mood of the crowd. Would you want to risk a procedural per thumbs-down from the peanut gallery simply because you couldn't come up with more than one song to play? :)

But the 90s sucked for rock music. Well I guess I have to suck it up and pick music I don't like but were popular. Gamers gotta game.

ST911
02-11-2014, 09:20 PM
Proposed rule: participants must select a division-era-appropriate song to play while they are staging up to shoot, shooting their stage, and tallying score/resetting.

Anyone know who handles Jan Hammer's booking?

Chuck Haggard
02-11-2014, 09:21 PM
Oh wow that makes things hard, as the music I like is mostly from the 80s.

Hmm Thunderstruck was released in 1990.

Do we have to pick a song per a stage?

Back in Black was the early '80s. I distinctly recall such. All the cool kids had that album.

PPGMD
02-11-2014, 09:23 PM
Back in Black was the early '80s. I distinctly recall such. All the cool kids had that album.

The people shooting the 80s division have the easiest time picking songs. There was so much good music in the 80s.

Chuck Haggard
02-11-2014, 09:25 PM
The people shooting the 80s division have the easiest time picking songs. There was so much good music in the 80s.


Word !

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 09:33 PM
90's subdivision: School of John Woo.
Dual-wielding mandatory, no limit on magazine capacity. Best 4 shots per target count, points divided by 2 for score.
Permitted reloads: safely ditch both guns (must be both) and draw another identical pair, OR crouch 100% shielded by hard cover and reload while keeping up a stream of taunts and insults directed downrange at the "opposition".

orionz06
02-11-2014, 09:35 PM
Proposed rule: participants must select a division-era-appropriate song to play while they are staging up to shoot, shooting their stage, and tallying score/resetting.

Procedurals will be assessed for music release dates not matching division decade, or music shouted down as being particularly unlistenable by the spectators;
Bonus points may be awarded if the crowd spontaneously begins singing along, and for epic air guitar solos and/or vocal performances after "unload and show clear"...

Yes, yes, and yes!

I think it should also be a rule that songs cannot be repeated.


Anyone know who handles Jan Hammer's booking?

He's manning a DJ booth and running this show.


The 90's... Lots of punk, third wave ska, grunge/alt, etc. You got Pennywise, Face to Face, Corrosion of Conformity, White Zombie, Reel Big Fish, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and that band Dave Grohl was in before Foo Fighters.

Stand out singles include:

Danzig- Mother '93
Faith No More- Epic (it was a single in 1990)
Sponge- Plowed
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch- Good Vibrations
MC Hammer— U Can't Touch This

PPGMD
02-11-2014, 09:36 PM
90's subdivision: School of John Woo.
Dual-wielding mandatory, no limit on magazine capacity. Best 4 shots per target count, points divided by 2 for score.
Permitted reloads: safely ditch both guns (must be both) and draw another identical pair, OR crouch 100% shielded by hard cover and reload while keeping up a stream of taunts and insults directed downrange at the "opposition".

Does the identical pair have to be the same gun, or can we switch to other guns like Micro UZIs, MP-5Ks, and Skorpions (full auto of course)?

Off to go watch the Matrix, too bad they never made any sequels.

jetfire
02-11-2014, 09:40 PM
I would pay cash money to sponsor this match.

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 09:44 PM
Does the identical pair have to be the same gun, or can we switch to other guns like Micro UZIs, MP-5Ks, and Skorpions (full auto of course)?

Off to go watch the Matrix, too bad they never made any sequels.

I'm thinking you can switch gun types on the reload, but for at least the pretense of safety in dual-wielding at any given time you have to be shooting the same gun in the same caliber in both hands.

Personally, I'd be inclined to borrow and/or rent a quartet of Skorpion VZ61 (http://cz-usa.com/products/view/vz-61-skorpion/) pistols and go Matrix-style.

OK, fine, with a pair of USP9's in dual AIWB holsters, just in case...

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 09:58 PM
Mother of god! Can I sponsor this?

Now that we have two prospective sponsors in the first hour... yes?


I would pay cash money to sponsor this match.

And that, along with the trucker 'stache, is why you are awesome.

I don't know when or where we could make this happen, but if it DOES happen, well... It would be a crime not to have a pro video crew capturing the madness.

Why should the Cowboy/SASS folks have all of the cosplay fun? :)

PPGMD
02-11-2014, 10:05 PM
We need an 80s ATeam division.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVonyVSQoM

You are required to use a folder Mini 14.

Also the scoring is a little different.

You must shoot at at least twice as many rounds as there are threat targets in the course of fire. But instead of getting points for each hit, you start with all the points, and any hits on any target subtracts 5 points from your score.

TheTrevor
02-11-2014, 10:10 PM
We need an 80s ATeam division.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVonyVSQoM

You are required to use a folder Mini 14.

Also the scoring is a little different.

You must shoot at at least twice as many rounds as there are threat targets in the course of fire. But instead of getting points for each hit, you start with all the points, and any hits on any target subtracts 5 points from your score.

USPSA/IPSC "metric" torso targets posted on 24x36 white-painted cardboard. Minimum 4 hits per target backer, no penalty for "winging" the IPSC target with a grazing shot which also touches the target backer.

jlw
02-11-2014, 10:34 PM
Proposed rule: participants must select a division-era-appropriate song to play while they are staging up to shoot, shooting their stage, and tallying score/resetting.

Procedurals will be assessed for music release dates not matching division decade, or music shouted down as being particularly unlistenable by the spectators;
Bonus points may be awarded if the crowd spontaneously begins singing along, and for epic air guitar solos and/or vocal performances after "unload and show clear"...

It's a good thing Hank Williams is timeless.

Malamute
02-12-2014, 12:17 AM
It's a good thing Hank Williams is timeless.

I was thinking something similar looking at all the music that was mentioned, and didn't sound the least bit familiar. I think I was listening to country in the 80's, and probably classical in the 90's. And still shooting Smiths and SA Rugers, and using 94's and 1886's.

TheTrevor
02-12-2014, 12:51 AM
Man, now I've got this stuck in my head. Just caught myself sketching out a 3-gun stage design based on the lobby scene in the Matrix.

Start in the box to the right of the simulated baggage x-ray, hands at your sides. Upon hearing the beep, fully clear your concealing garment on both sides, draw single or identical-pair pistols, and engage all 4 targets within view.

Move directly forward to pressure plate, which will trigger two arrays of two targets each to move laterally into view from behind cover in the rear-right and rear-back areas of the stage. Neutralize targets and ditch pistol(s) in safe box (mandatory). Move left into cover and draw fresh pistol(s) -- if running one gun at a time, draw and shoot second sequence with non-dominant hand.

From behind cover, step left onto pressure plate and engage three targets as they swing into view from behind cover at 10, 20, 30 feet. The shooter is strongly encouraged to move forward while engaging swinging targets. Points awarded for up to 6 hits per target (dual-wield), or 3 hits per target at double points for shooting WHO.

After moving past last swinging target, deposit pistol(s) in safe box. Turn and retreat uprange empty-handed to staged shotgun at first swinging-target station. Pick up shotgun and engage targets on right side of range: 4 rounds buckshot to full profile targets, 4 rounds slug to partially exposed targets.

Advance directly across towards right side range, ditch shotgun in dump barrel halfway across. Pick up rifle/carbine, stomp pressure plate, and engage final 4 targets in array in front of elevator with headshots only.

Drang
02-12-2014, 01:33 AM
Why should the Cowboy/SASS folks have all of the cosplay fun? :)

Zoot Shooters (http://www.zootshooters.com/)

Totem Polar
02-12-2014, 02:13 AM
Two words to cover your music bases: Judas Priest.

That, a K-frame, and the FBI load will get you started; borrow for the rest of the stages when you get there. Bonus points if you can score a Mac-10 on the way.

TheTrevor
02-12-2014, 02:30 AM
Imagine my sad-panda face just now when I looked up the release date for "Bodies" by Drowning Pool and found that it came out in 2001, making it ineligible for 90's division.

will_1400
02-12-2014, 03:31 AM
Yes, yes, and yes!

I think it should also be a rule that songs cannot be repeated.



He's manning a DJ booth and running this show.


The 90's... Lots of punk, third wave ska, grunge/alt, etc. You got Pennywise, Face to Face, Corrosion of Conformity, White Zombie, Reel Big Fish, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and that band Dave Grohl was in before Foo Fighters.

Stand out singles include:

Danzig- Mother '93
Faith No More- Epic (it was a single in 1990)
Sponge- Plowed
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch- Good Vibrations
MC Hammer— U Can't Touch This

I see a distinct lack of songs from Night of the Stormrider, The Dark Saga, and Something Wicked This Way Comes.

Also Rust in Peace, Countdown to Extinction, Youthanasia, Painkiller, No More Tears, Tunes of War (Grave Digger), and that's what I can think of off the top of my head at 0230 while dealing with insomnia.

JAD
02-12-2014, 05:56 AM
The Matrix is not retro. That was like, last year or something.

Tamara
02-12-2014, 12:03 PM
I need a stage where I can dual-wield a pair of Beretta 84s while the PA system blares some RATM.

BLR
02-12-2014, 12:08 PM
How about a pre-1950 military handgun comp?

Rock a TT33 or P38.


1911 w/ a Cutts?

BLR
02-12-2014, 12:09 PM
And I'd suggest a 1940's OSS/Bogie Class.

Drang
02-12-2014, 12:16 PM
And I'd suggest a 1940's OSS/Bogie Class.

Side match with a Lisle Carbine. :D

Biggus
02-13-2014, 08:56 AM
This thread lacks sufficient hair product and/or Colt Double Eagles and All American 2000s in my opinion for a 90s division.

Tamara
02-13-2014, 09:41 AM
This thread lacks sufficient hair product and/or Colt Double Eagles and All American 2000s in my opinion for a 90s division.

Like the third Crow movie, the AA2k was pretty much straight-to-video.

Biggus
02-13-2014, 10:08 AM
Like the third Crow movie, the AA2k was pretty much straight-to-video.
Would the Double Eagle be the MC Hammer of late '80s and early '90s pistols?

NETim
02-13-2014, 10:10 AM
Like the third Crow movie, the AA2k was pretty much straight-to-video.

Snicker.

John Ralston
02-13-2014, 10:28 AM
So can I run my P220 while playing Ozzy and Dokken?

abu fitna
02-13-2014, 10:45 AM
So can I run my P220 while playing Ozzy and Dokken?

Perhaps more style points if you run a P225 as a x games bicyclist (or double points for rollerbladers). Yes, you can have your community policing bicycle creds in your pocket to make you feel better (grin).

Tamara
02-13-2014, 11:25 AM
Would the Double Eagle be the MC Hammer of late '80s and early '90s pistols?

If by that you mean "That thing you kinda sorta like, in an inexplicable guilty pleasure way, but don't want your friends to find out about, lest they think you're an unhip dorkwad," then yes. ;)

PPGMD
02-13-2014, 11:27 AM
So can I run my P220 while playing Ozzy and Dokken?

Is it 9mm?

I was thinking my P220-1 9mm in the 80's division. But I really don't want to abuse that gun finding magazines for that gun is like finding a natural blonde in LA.

Although a Jericho 941 would be cool for the 90's division.

Joe in PNG
02-13-2014, 02:46 PM
Is it 9mm?

I was thinking my P220-1 9mm in the 80's division. But I really don't want to abuse that gun finding magazines for that gun is like finding a natural blonde in LA.

Although a Jericho 941 would be cool for the 90's division.

I think 'Cowboy Bebop' was 90's...

PPGMD
02-13-2014, 03:08 PM
I think 'Cowboy Bebop' was 90's...

1998 in Japan. Though it probably wasn't until 2000 until it became popular state side.

Joe in PNG
02-13-2014, 03:17 PM
1998 in Japan. Though it probably wasn't until 2000 until it became popular state side.
Close enough for the Japanimation Cosplay Division. Now, I just need a Mateba and a mullet...

John Ralston
02-13-2014, 03:48 PM
Is it 9mm?

I was thinking my P220-1 9mm in the 80's division. But I really don't want to abuse that gun finding magazines for that gun is like finding a natural blonde in LA.

Although a Jericho 941 would be cool for the 90's division.

No...it's a 45, but I'd run race ammo and a wimpy spring :cool:. I had a S&W 1076 that I got as a Graduation Present (WSU) from my parents, but I traded it off to get my first sewing machine. Not sure I could afford to shoot a whole match of 10mm anyway!

Lester Polfus
02-13-2014, 03:49 PM
For the 80's division, I'll have a pair of Detonics Combat Masters in a Lou Allessi double shoulder rig, a Colt Python with Mag-Na-Porting and Metalife finish, and a 2" Colt Lawman in a SOB holster.

Attire will be a leather bomber jacket, jeans, engineer boots, and Randolph Aviator Shades.

All this will be backed up by my Sting 1A boot dagger, with extra ammo in a mussette bag.

Music will be AC/DC and Pre-Sammy Van Halen.

NickA
02-13-2014, 04:04 PM
I thought you guys were serious about this, but nobody has asked yet what size gun belt works best with parachute pants :confused:

And 80's (barely) division music: The Cult, FTW.

Tamara
02-13-2014, 05:00 PM
For the 80's division, I'll have a pair of Detonics Combat Masters in a Lou Allessi double shoulder rig, a Colt Python with Mag-Na-Porting and Metalife finish, and a 2" Colt Lawman in a SOB holster.

Attire will be a leather bomber jacket, jeans, engineer boots, and Randolph Aviator Shades.

All this will be backed up by my Sting 1A boot dagger, with extra ammo in a mussette bag.

Music will be AC/DC and Pre-Sammy Van Halen.

Massive win. You need a sidekick with an MP-40. And a Steyr SSG for the precision rifle matches.

TheTrevor
02-13-2014, 06:27 PM
All in favor of RAPS League being opened up to every decade starting with "19"?

Let the SASS folks have fun playing 1800's dress-up. If someone can make a convincing case that they're dressed, strapped, and musically accompanied in a fashion fit for any decade in the 1900's, I say... "Shooter ready? Stand by!"

ragnar_d
02-13-2014, 06:44 PM
Side match with a Lisle Carbine. :D
I wish I had never read that sentence . . . and I mean that in the best way possible.

I'd never heard of that one before so I started researching. Now I just added another gun to the (already very substantial) bucket list.

Lester Polfus
02-13-2014, 07:06 PM
Massive win. You need a sidekick with an MP-40. And a Steyr SSG for the precision rifle matches.

Zactly. :D

And a Harley...

My first thought was a .44 Automag and a Beretta 93R, but then realize my attire would have to be a "black bodysuit."

None of us want that....

Dagga Boy
02-14-2014, 01:00 AM
Well, I'm in. HK P7 in a G. Gordon Davis custom IPSC holster, 1911 with a triple chamber comp in Ernie Hill leather, S&W 25-9 model of 1989 .45 Colt Revolver in a Basket Weave Sparks cross draw with a triple loader pouch of tomato paste cans size speed loaders. And the beauty is that I don't have to buy a thing......still got all the retro stuff. I'll be dressed like Fred Dryer in Hunter.....:cool:.

TheTrevor
02-14-2014, 01:04 AM
I thought you guys were serious about this, but nobody has asked yet what size gun belt works best with parachute pants :confused:

And 80's (barely) division music: The Cult, FTW.

I just assumed that they were cross-compatible with modern-day parachute pants, aka 5.11 Taclite Pro's. :cool:

Fire Woman would make excellent shootin' music, I think.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qavSfl1jATU

TheTrevor
02-14-2014, 01:09 AM
Well, I'm in. HK P7 in a G. Gordon Davis custom IPSC holster, 1911 with a triple chamber comp in Ernie Hill leather, S&W 25-9 model of 1989 .45 Colt Revolver in a Basket Weave Sparks cross draw with a triple loader pouch of tomato paste cans size speed loaders. And the beauty is that I don't have to buy a thing......still got all the retro stuff. I'll be dressed like Fred Dryer in Hunter.....:cool:.

We'll put you down for the 80's division, then. From the Wikipedia article:


The show's main characters, Hunter and McCall, resolve many of their cases by shooting dead the perpetrators.

Heh. Sounds about right.

Accompanying music? The Hunter theme song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiZaqhuL6nU) is only 54 seconds long...

Biggus
02-14-2014, 04:32 AM
If by that you mean "That thing you kinda sorta like, in an inexplicable guilty pleasure way, but don't want your friends to find out about, lest they think you're an unhip dorkwad," then yes. ;)

Ha!

(Not going to admit that the first real live music experience of my life might have been seeing MC Hammer in 1990)

Keebsley
02-14-2014, 04:40 AM
How about some Die Hard (1998). Have to run the course in a wife beater and no shoes. Beretta 92F, HK P7M13, Walther PPK, and a Steyr AUG. For bonus points, you can run across glass while saying various quotes from the movie and/or crawling through air vents.

MDS
02-14-2014, 06:23 AM
I'll be Pablo Escobar. White linen, Panama hat, aviators, leather slip-ons. Uzis carried by some burly farmers that follow me around. At the beep, they spray two mags each then hand me a machete, which I use enthusiastically on any cardboard still standing. Car props get bombs installed. Soundtrack by Miami Sound Machine.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go buy a ring and ask this thread to marry me.

Dagga Boy
02-14-2014, 07:11 AM
After much thought, I am going with Rob Zombie Ironhead as my theme music. I used to listen to Rob Zombie as my go to work music to get into black heart mode. Ironhead hits all of the classes.
Rob Zombie-90's, Ozzy Osbourne vocals-70's/80's, and Tommy Lee on Drums 80's/90's.

ACP230
02-14-2014, 07:46 AM
Still got the stuff I shot in the '70s, '80s, and '90s.
Just have to figure out when Charlie Daniels "Uneasy Rider" fits.
Also, "Hot Rod Lincoln" by Commander Cody and The Lost Planet Airmen.

"My daddy said, "Son, you're gonna drive me to drinkin, If you don't stop drivin' that Hot Rod Lincoln."

BN
02-14-2014, 08:46 AM
80s, Nastoff Super Comp in Ernie Hill leather, 7 round mags and a trucker hat. I still have everything. ;) Clothes will be jeans and a T-shirt, just like I still wear.

PPGMD
02-14-2014, 09:17 AM
Still got the stuff I shot in the '70s, '80s, and '90s.
Just have to figure out when Charlie Daniels "Uneasy Rider" fits.
Also, "Hot Rod Lincoln" by Commander Cody and The Lost Planet Airmen.

"My daddy said, "Son, you're gonna drive me to drinkin, If you don't stop drivin' that Hot Rod Lincoln."

1973 for Uneasy Rider
1972 for that band's cover of the Hot Rod Lincoln

da6dspanburg
02-14-2014, 09:51 AM
Also, "Hot Rod Lincoln" by Commander Cody and The Lost Planet Airmen.

"My daddy said, "Son, you're gonna drive me to drinkin, If you don't stop drivin' that Hot Rod Lincoln."

That would have to be the 70's I used to have that Album... Of course he still plays that song at his concerts and shows...

For me the 70's. Maybe Smoke on the Water and Heir of the Dog for my music. If I spent the majority of the 70's wearing OD green, can I use a .45 1911 in a US Army Leather Flap Holster on a pistol belt? Which I think I still have.

da6d

Drang
02-14-2014, 12:48 PM
How about some Die Hard (1998).
Die Hard came out while I was a Light Fighter, which, without checking IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/), makes it '87 or '88.
Yep. '88 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/?ref_=tttr_tr_tt). 2 came out in '90, 3 in '97.

Chuck Whitlock
02-14-2014, 01:52 PM
............ From the Wikipedia article:

It saddens me greatly that you had to check Wikipedia........but I suppose that is not your fault.

jon volk
02-14-2014, 07:51 PM
I'll be Pablo Escobar. White linen, Panama hat, aviators, leather slip-ons. Uzis carried by some burly farmers that follow me around. At the beep, they spray two mags each then hand me a machete, which I use enthusiastically on any cardboard still standing. Car props get bombs installed. Soundtrack by Miami Sound Machine.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go buy a ring and ask this thread to marry me.
Kittensticks you win

TheTrevor
02-14-2014, 08:21 PM
Ha!

(Not going to admit that the first real live music experience of my life might have been seeing MC Hammer in 1990)

Never seen him in concert, but I've met him three times -- twice at tech events, once at my favorite sushi place because he lived in my area for quite a while. Super nice guy, even recognized that he'd met me before when I ran into him at Semo Sushi. True story.

I like quite a bit of his work, but mostly I am fervently hoping that a certain wheel gunner gets top spot at a major match so he will have to make good on his promise to do the Hammer Dance on camera.

TheTrevor
02-14-2014, 08:25 PM
I'll be Pablo Escobar. White linen, Panama hat, aviators, leather slip-ons. Uzis carried by some burly farmers that follow me around. At the beep, they spray two mags each then hand me a machete, which I use enthusiastically on any cardboard still standing. Car props get bombs installed. Soundtrack by Miami Sound Machine.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go buy a ring and ask this thread to marry me.

Barring a stunning upset, Mario wins for today. That was so over the top awesome that I read it to my wife and she LOL'd, and she's not even a shooter.

Not sure where we could find an insurer willing to cover that sort of team effort, though. :)

TheTrevor
02-14-2014, 08:30 PM
It saddens me greatly that you had to check Wikipedia........but I suppose that is not your fault.

Heh. Pretty sure I was more into cheesy sci-fi TV/movies and books in the early 80s. Wasn't old enough to drive, after all. :)

TheTrevor
02-14-2014, 08:36 PM
How about some Die Hard (1998). Have to run the course in a wife beater and no shoes. Beretta 92F, HK P7M13, Walther PPK, and a Steyr AUG. For bonus points, you can run across glass while saying various quotes from the movie and/or crawling through air vents.

I can totally design a Die Hard stage. You start with your shoes off and have to low-scramble/crawl through a tunnel (lined with gymnastics mats), then push a steel cart from tunnel exit to staging position where you will pick up shoes and gun(s)....

Timer 1 stops when you get to the staging table. Timer 2 starts when shooter is ready.

Joe in PNG
02-14-2014, 09:23 PM
I'm going to have to settle on a black suit, skinny black tie, and white shirt, with a Star 9mm carried Mexician style. Music will be "Miserlou" by Dick Dale. Now I've got to memorize this passage in Ezekiel...

MDS
02-14-2014, 10:53 PM
BarNot sure where we could find an insurer willing to cover that sort of team effort, though. :)

I'm pretty sure the only place this match would be legal is aboard a derelict vessel in international waters. Or Nevada, where it would be both legal, and insurable with creative prop bets.

Tamara
02-14-2014, 11:15 PM
There totally needs to be a stage paying homage to the #1 gun nerd movie of the '80s (http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Extreme_Prejudice)...

JAD
02-14-2014, 11:34 PM
I'd say ExP gets it's own match and in fact is the basis of the Nationals. It is why I generally carry Commanders.

Keebsley
02-15-2014, 01:53 AM
Die Hard came out while I was a Light Fighter, which, without checking IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/), makes it '87 or '88.
Yep. '88 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/?ref_=tttr_tr_tt). 2 came out in '90, 3 in '97.

My bad. I fat fingered it in my excitement to say,"YIPPE KAI YAY MOTHER KITTENER!!!!" while shooting and running with no shoes.

Biggus
02-15-2014, 04:03 AM
Never seen him in concert, but I've met him three times -- twice at tech events, once at my favorite sushi place because he lived in my area for quite a while. Super nice guy, even recognized that he'd met me before when I ran into him at Semo Sushi. True story.

I like quite a bit of his work, but mostly I am fervently hoping that a certain wheel gunner gets top spot at a major match so he will have to make good on his promise to do the Hammer Dance on camera.

This post needs multiple 'like' buttons.

NETim
02-15-2014, 04:21 AM
There totally needs to be a stage paying homage to the #1 gun nerd movie of the '80s (http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Extreme_Prejudice)...

Scarza! He's over behind the Chevy! Move on him!

ETA: Clancy Brown, who played MSgt. Larry McRose in this flick, has always been one of my favorite Hollywood tough guys. But now I find out he's the voice of Mr. Krabs on SpongeBob. :(

I am so disillusioned.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Clancy_Brown

NickA
02-15-2014, 09:19 AM
Scarza! He's over behind the Chevy! Move on him!

ETA: Clancy Brown, who played MSgt. Larry McRose in this flick, has always been one of my favorite Hollywood tough guys. But now I find out he's the voice of Mr. Krabs on SpongeBob. :(

I am so disillusioned.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Clancy_Brown

But you have to overlook the Spongebob thing, because Kurgan :D
(I'm overly fascinated by actors like him, who aren't exactly famous, but nearly everyone recognizes their face if not their name)

Drang
02-15-2014, 01:35 PM
My bad. I fat fingered it in my excitement to say,"YIPPE KAI YAY MOTHER KITTENER!!!!" while shooting and running with no shoes.
I should have added "Was that a typo?"
BTW, my Christmas t-shirt, from W00t!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vqkal1gvbW8/Uv-zAN-RJoI/AAAAAAAAELc/l4u1NI4x1cQ/w958-h540-no/IMG_20140215_103319_360.jpg

Drang
02-15-2014, 01:46 PM
But you have to overlook the Spongebob thing, because Kurgan :D
Wasn't he the bad guy in The Crow, or am I getting my heavies confused.
Never mind, I have this Internet thingy here...
No, I guess not.
Clancy Brown - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000317/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1)
The Crow (1994) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109506/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm)

(I'm overly fascinated by actors like him, who aren't exactly famous, but nearly everyone recognizes their face if not their name)
Also kinda wierd when a B-List actor gets famous. Bruce Campbell's was entitled If Chins Could Kill: Confessions of a B Movie Actor. (http://www.amazon.com/If-Chins-Could-Kill-Confessions/dp/0312291450/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1392489928&sr=1-1&keywords=bruce+campbell+if+chins+could+kill)

TheTrevor
02-15-2014, 01:50 PM
I'm pretty sure the only place this match would be legal is aboard a derelict vessel in international waters. Or Nevada, where it would be both legal, and insurable with creative prop bets.

In all seriousness I was thinking NV would be a good option. Or Arizona, maybe. (The irony of having two of the free-est states in the Union right next door to the PRK does not escape me.)

Private land, invite-only with liability waivers, 240-degree ranges with berms on all four sides. No RO in the danger zone, maybe RO gets to follow by drone instead? Timing by start/stop pressure-plates/impact-sensors. Video cameras on poles all over stage above plane of fire, feeding monitors in spectator area.

John Ralston
02-15-2014, 06:06 PM
Wasn't he the bad guy in The Crow, or am I getting my heavies confused.
Never mind, I have this Internet thingy here...
No, I guess not.
Clancy Brown - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000317/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1)
The Crow (1994) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109506/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm)

Also kinda wierd when a B-List actor gets famous. Bruce Campbell's was entitled If Chins Could Kill: Confessions of a B Movie Actor. (http://www.amazon.com/If-Chins-Could-Kill-Confessions/dp/0312291450/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1392489928&sr=1-1&keywords=bruce+campbell+if+chins+could+kill)

The Kurgan is from Highlander...but he used a sword.

Drang
02-15-2014, 08:44 PM
The Kurgan is from Highlander...but he used a sword.

I know. I thought Clancy Brown also played Big Money, or whatever his name was, in The Crow. I was wrong.

John Ralston
02-15-2014, 10:40 PM
got it...

Keebsley
02-17-2014, 01:48 AM
I should have added "Was that a typo?"
BTW, my Christmas t-shirt, from W00t!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vqkal1gvbW8/Uv-zAN-RJoI/AAAAAAAAELc/l4u1NI4x1cQ/w958-h540-no/IMG_20140215_103319_360.jpg

You are my hero. Must go to W00t! and purchase said shirt as well...

JonInWA
02-17-2014, 03:07 PM
Puffy jackets? Watch caps? No, no, no-appropriate uniforms must be at least grimy puffy vest jackets (aka the urban ski bum look, preferably with chair lift tickets deteriorating on zippers) and knit caps with beer can portions for headgear....

Best, Jon

orionz06
02-17-2014, 03:13 PM
For the night shoot I will have a smoke machine and blast some Dead through a wall of speakers and resemble a laser show.

By the way, a wall of sound will be a venue requirement.

ACP230
02-26-2014, 07:48 AM
"Bad Moon Rising" "Run Through The Jungle" and "Fortunate Son" by CCR ought to figure in somewhere.

orionz06
02-26-2014, 07:58 AM
Creedence makes me wanna find a Pendleton cardigan for a concealment garment.

Alpha Sierra
02-26-2014, 03:30 PM
I may still have a Members Only jacket here somewhere...
LOL...I bet I do too.

Alpha Sierra
02-26-2014, 04:05 PM
How's this for retro?

http://youtu.be/w72CKogD_8I

Slavex
02-26-2014, 09:44 PM
yeah was going to post that too, http://www.zootshooters.com/

I think Henning was one of the founding members of it

TheTrevor
02-26-2014, 10:02 PM
Now, that's fun and all, but I kinda thought RAPS would be all about near-past retro, not historical cosplay. 70s/80s/90s sort of thing with TV/movie/music cultural references...:)

Alpha Sierra
02-27-2014, 06:05 PM
Now, that's fun and all, but I kinda thought RAPS would be all about near-past retro, not historical cosplay. 70s/80s/90s sort of thing with TV/movie/music cultural references...:)

Still and all, Emma Hall looks pretty good in that 20's getup. I'll wear a zoot suit to shoot with her.

LHS
02-28-2014, 02:00 AM
This thread delivers.

Bonus rule for the 90s division: all shotguns must be loaded with shredder rounds.

LSP552
03-02-2014, 12:28 PM
I'll bring my 4" 66 and backup 3" 65. Cue Bad Company in the background.

Ken

Dagga Boy
03-02-2014, 12:58 PM
I am working a deal on an Armaloyed S&W 520 for this so I can go gamer....:-)