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BLR
01-19-2014, 12:31 PM
http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y491/feral45/1911%20Pics/20140119_121531_zps2ctb7tcz.jpg (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/feral45/media/1911%20Pics/20140119_121531_zps2ctb7tcz.jpg.html)

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y491/feral45/1911%20Pics/20140119_121424_zpsunoayx3s.jpg (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/feral45/media/1911%20Pics/20140119_121424_zpsunoayx3s.jpg.html)

Tried taking a picture of the hotzone, but it swamped out the camera...

2800C, 20ATM pressure. Hot isostatic pressing (with a few twists and turns) of B4C, SiC, and CNTs (well, CNTs and a few allotropes of sp2 carbon) to make an EMI absorbing, very high velocity armor.

More pics soon.

Pipe is a Pete 999 Silver Spigot, 'baccy is a Dunhill blend.

justintime
01-19-2014, 12:53 PM
This looks like the beginning of the movie flubber.

ST911
01-19-2014, 01:05 PM
What process is occurring / product being made?

justintime
01-19-2014, 01:17 PM
*crosses fingers that it is a living breathing bouncing glob of green goo*

BLR
01-19-2014, 01:23 PM
What process is occurring / product being made?

Dude, are you asking me about my tactics???

:D

Carbothermal Carbide Conversion, sintering/diffusion bonding, and a little something-something I can't talk about.

JodyH
01-19-2014, 01:23 PM
Tried taking a picture of the hotzone, but it swamped out the camera...
If only you knew someone with a Flir GF309 IR camera... like me.

JodyH
01-19-2014, 01:25 PM
2800C
Never mind, I'm only good to 1,500°C.

BLR
01-19-2014, 01:27 PM
What's the atom density of boron in the finished product?

If you are asking what I think you are asking, first, I am very impressed. Second, I will not discuss it.

Well, sort of impressed. I'm stunningly disappointed that we aren't discussing the awesomeness of the pipe and 'bacco. :(

BLR
01-19-2014, 01:32 PM
Ah, less than one.

hufnagel
01-19-2014, 01:34 PM
I miss the smell of my grandfather's pipe. He had to give it up after open heart surgery. Miss my grandfather too. Pipes make me wonder who's been cutting onions again.

(you wanted pipe talk!)

BLR
01-19-2014, 01:38 PM
How much less? Also, elemental boron or enriched B-10?

:)

Email me.

nycnoob
01-19-2014, 01:44 PM
Bill,

this is not much of a conversation, How about you tell us something: How much is in the crucible? 4 Gallons? How long does it take to make? 3 days?
I got very little to work with here and I do have an engineering degree or two. If you tell us something perhaps
we can join the conversation of guessing games that you and Tom are enjoying


Next I am dying to know if your Blackfire Engineering Ltd (http://www.blackfireeng.com/) company will introduce a product with the name BitterSteel (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Blackfyre)?
I know you must get tons of people asking about "Game of Thrones" references
but this is just too cool a name to pass up (though BloodRaven is not a bad name I can no see what kind of product you might sell called that!)

nycnoob
01-19-2014, 02:00 PM
This looks like the beginning of the movie flubber.

If you want to do REAL science, you need data.

Here is what the lab in Flubber looks like. I do not see the similarity but then again we know almost nothing about what Bill is doing

http://www.filminamerica.com/Movies/Flubber/flubber05.jpg

LSP552
01-19-2014, 02:26 PM
Will it end up as a 1911???

Ken

justintime
01-19-2014, 02:31 PM
2064

I more of meant when he came out of the chamber thing (extra science points for using thing in a sentence)

Chefdog
01-19-2014, 02:38 PM
OK, how about the boron to carbon ratio of the final product?

A shot in the dark, but are we talking about some kind of DLC surface treatment?

BLR
01-19-2014, 03:16 PM
Bill,

this is not much of a conversation, How about you tell us something: How much is in the crucible? 4 Gallons? How long does it take to make? 3 days?
I got very little to work with here and I do have an engineering degree or two. If you tell us something perhaps
we can join the conversation of guessing games that you and Tom are enjoying


Next I am dying to know if your Blackfire Engineering Ltd (http://www.blackfireeng.com/) company will introduce a product with the name BitterSteel (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Blackfyre)?
I know you must get tons of people asking about "Game of Thrones" references
but this is just too cool a name to pass up (though BloodRaven is not a bad name I can no see what kind of product you might sell called that!)

You're the first! Blackfire predates that movie by a few years.

I gave you lots of stuff! CTCC, hot iso pressing, boron, silicon, allotropes not mentioned, and so on!

Without going into the EM properties, the idea is to, through manipulation of the nano-structure of the ceramic and addition of a non brittle phase, create a more fracture toughened ceramic. Paying application - I cannot discuss. Pet project is multifunctional armor.

Fracture toughening ceramics is like fuel cells. The potential reward is worth the gamble even considering the massive odds against success.

DLC - nope. That'd be sp3 carbon. I'm not a fan of DLC for guns. At all.

LittleLebowski
01-19-2014, 03:22 PM
If you are asking what I think you are asking, first, I am very impressed. Second, I will not discuss it.


Do not underestimate my man Tom Jones :D Also, you guys should collaborate on doomsday devices.....

http://planetmut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/doomsday.jpg

BLR
01-19-2014, 03:28 PM
Someday, when I grow up, I want to be an amoral, crackpot scientist just like Hubert. Slippers and all. Several colleagues say I already have the crackpot side down pat.

For those keeping score, Tom slipped in a few choice questions concerning boron. Which happens to have a few interesting properties in relationship to the nuclear field.

Bowman_15
01-19-2014, 05:54 PM
Bill, you've spiked my curiosity. Can you go into some explanation as to what is going on in this thread?

Also, why is sp3 hybridized carbon not preferred for a coating on a gun?

Nephrology
01-19-2014, 06:48 PM
how do you get 20atm in that thing at that heat?

BLR
01-19-2014, 06:59 PM
how do you get 20atm in that thing at that heat?

I don't understand. 20ATM is only about 300psi. That's nothing for a pressure vessel. Simple o-ring seals are used.

Nephrology
01-19-2014, 07:06 PM
I don't understand. 20ATM is only about 300psi. That's nothing for a pressure vessel. Simple o-ring seals are used.

I have never generated that much pressure but I also am a biologist. I think our autoclaves go up to 40 psi.

BLR
01-19-2014, 07:06 PM
Bill, you've spiked my curiosity. Can you go into some explanation as to what is going on in this thread?

Also, why is sp3 hybridized carbon not preferred for a coating on a gun?

Just a few people nerding it up.

What about DLC makes it appropriate?

BLR
01-19-2014, 07:10 PM
I have never generated that much pressure but I also am a biologist. I think our autoclaves go up to 40 psi.

Ok, I'm tracking now.

What you see is only the outer pressure vessel. The inner carbon hot zone is what gets to that temp. It's surrounded by 4 inches of graphite insulation, then a 304 stainless capsule. It's capable of 30ATM or 1x10-4 Torr vacuum.

Slavex
01-19-2014, 07:21 PM
blah blah blah,

moar pics pleeze

BLR
01-19-2014, 07:29 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/a9ana7y6.jpg

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Bowman_15
01-19-2014, 07:48 PM
Just a few people nerding it up.

What about DLC makes it appropriate?

I need to study up on metallurgy and coating. Having some knowledge of chemistry, I was mainly asking why sp2 hybridized carbon is preferable over sp3? What types of properties are desired for a coating of a firearm over say a knife which does use DLC.

BLR
01-19-2014, 07:53 PM
I know of no sp2 coatings.

The stuff I was talking about is only tangentially firearm related.

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NETim
01-19-2014, 08:03 PM
This all strikes me as a goshawful amount of work to improve meerschaum slightly.

MDS
01-19-2014, 08:18 PM
Meerschaum cannot be improved. And 20ATM should be the name of Bill's whiskey bar. "Great atmosphere!"

SeriousStudent
01-19-2014, 08:20 PM
Meerschaum cannot be improved. And 20ATM should be the name of Bill's whiskey bar. "Great atmosphere!"

Well played, old boy. :D

NickA
01-19-2014, 08:24 PM
Just checking in to see if this thread is way over my head, and.... Yep. Not sure how to quantify by how much, but.... A lot.
Carry on., smart peeplz.

Slavex
01-19-2014, 08:43 PM
hmm and my reply didn't go through Bill,


hahahaha well played sir, well played. (is what should have been posted)

JMorse
01-20-2014, 12:26 AM
Can someone dumb this down a bit? I have no clue what you're talking about.

JM Campbell
01-20-2014, 12:32 AM
Basically Bill is doing some cool kittening stuff with cool kittening box things that heat up "stuff" to do cool things for the greater good of man kind. Then again this is over my head and I could be wrong and he just found a great way to get people to talk about evil tobacco with out realizing it.

5pins
01-20-2014, 08:30 AM
Can someone dumb this down a bit? I have no clue what you're talking about.

I think it’s about making cake, or pie, I’m not sure but I like both.

Chuck Haggard
01-21-2014, 07:34 AM
Bill, does Iron Man know you borrowed that glowy thing from his chest?

Corvus
01-22-2014, 02:10 AM
Rearden metal ?

BLR
01-22-2014, 07:16 AM
HAHA!

I've spent 10 years (give or take) developing this. I'm more proud of my material than most here know. And I'm hoping it takes the world by storm.

:)

NETim
01-22-2014, 08:12 AM
HAHA!

I've spent 10 years (give or take) developing this. I'm more proud of my material than most here know. And I'm hoping it takes the world by storm.

:)

Is it State Science Institute approved? Is your man in Washington looking out for you?

BLR
01-22-2014, 08:13 AM
You mean the IRS? Yeah, they are watching.

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NETim
01-22-2014, 09:13 AM
You mean the IRS? Yeah, they are watching.

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Of course! You didn't build that. You owe the people for their contributions.

(Besides, someone's got to support the high rate of illegitimate births in this country.)

BLR
01-22-2014, 09:23 AM
Of course! You didn't build that. You owe the people for their contributions.

(Besides, someone's got to support the high rate of illegitimate births in this country.)

Right!

I think I'll spend some more ill gotten gains on another 1911.

Corvus
01-25-2014, 11:06 PM
You mean the IRS? Yeah, they are watching.

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But...but corporations don't pay taxes ????? .....or so I hear.

My sister and her husband work for the IRS in the Cincinnati ,Ohio office. The stories you hear about the waste and corruption in the IRS are all true.

Haraise
01-26-2014, 04:04 AM
But...but corporations don't pay taxes ????? .....or so I hear.

Well, that'd knock ten hours off my work week for... the foreseeable future if true. :( If only.

Sparks2112
01-28-2014, 07:08 AM
But...but corporations don't pay taxes ????? .....or so I hear.

My sister and her husband work for the IRS in the Cincinnati ,Ohio office. The stories you hear about the waste and corruption in the IRS are all true.

Can you tell them to pay no mind to the man in the flip flops behind the curtain when the 2014 tax year rolls around please? ;)