Seriously, what on earth is wrong with our society today....

[BaiHu]

So we really need to crack down on a 6 year old: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/10/Colorado-6-year-old-suspended-for-kissing-a-girl

But we allow this and other shenanigans to go on forever as we shower them with money/power until literally everyone has to force 1 guy out: http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/21/san-diego-mayor-bob-filner/

[Duces Tecum]

So we really need to crack down on a 6 year old: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/10/Colorado-6-year-old-suspended-for-kissing-a-girl

But we allow this and other shenanigans to go on forever as we shower them with money/power until literally everyone has to force 1 guy out: http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/21/san-diego-mayor-bob-filner/

It's the American Disease: The enforcers just don't know when to quit.

[Dagga Boy]

If he had kissed another boy, he would have been made student of the week for his tolerance and courage to express his feelings. We are doomed. Want to know what living in Rome was like before the fall...we are here.

[cclaxton]

So we really need to crack down on a 6 year old: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/10/Colorado-6-year-old-suspended-for-kissing-a-girl

But we allow this and other shenanigans to go on forever as we shower them with money/power until literally everyone has to force 1 guy out: http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/21/san-diego-mayor-bob-filner/

Filner was just convicted and resigned months ago. I would not say we allowed his behavior...he is paying consequences....perhaps not enough consequences, but we didn't just turn a blind eye.

Boy kissing girl seems like over-reaction. The best approach would be internal counseling and no punishment. But schools and school districts are run by humans who never make mistakes, so can't understand why this happened.

We are humans, and humans are animals, subject to biological behavior and instinct and not using our brains, or using our brains too much. Life is not perfect...get over it.

CC

[BaiHu]

cclaxton,

Big difference b/w putting it "on record" that a 6 year old kissed a girl vs a guy who was a serial groper/sexual harasser for longer than this kid has been alive while he held public office. Sure, now he's been prosecuted, but look at how long it took and how much it took.

Can someone make the argument that stopping a 6 year old's behavior now may prevent him from becoming a Filner? Sure, if it wasn't consensual or if the kid knew what sexual harassment was, but Filner was a grown ass adult that was shielded by his superiors, subordinates, etc simply to keep him in power as if no one in his party would have wanted to step up and take his place....why?

Only three possible reasons, IMO: 1) he had more dirt on others, 2) pure laziness/apathy or 3) a combination of both. Anyone of those reasons should disgust us as citizens.

[NETim]

Filner was just convicted and resigned months ago. I would not say we allowed his behavior...he is paying consequences....perhaps not enough consequences, but we didn't just turn a blind eye.

Boy kissing girl seems like over-reaction. The best approach would be internal counseling and no punishment. But schools and school districts are run by humans who never make mistakes, so can't understand why this happened.

We are humans, and humans are animals, subject to biological behavior and instinct and not using our brains, or using our brains too much. Life is not perfect...get over it.

CC

Could you pass that message on to the social engineers in D.C.?

[BaiHu]

Could you pass that message on to the social engineers in D.C.?

Perfectly said.

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[BLR]

Have nothing of meaning or substance to contribute to society? Well, then contribute horse crap.

Yet another sterling example of why I don't want kids or a family.

Though I am curious - what is this "record" and why should a 6 yr old have one? As an employer, if someone showed me that "record," I'd laugh my ass off.

ETA: If the school systems spent a third of this energy and money actually, you know, teaching maybe kids wouldn't be so stupid these days.

[cclaxton]

Could you pass that message on to the social engineers in D.C.?
Both sides of the political aisle engage in social engineering. From Wikipedia: "Social engineering is a discipline in social science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_science) that refers to efforts to influence popular attitudes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attitude_(psychology)) and social behaviors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_behavior) on a large scale, whether by governments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government) or private groups."

The political version of this is called Political Engineering. Laws are a form of social engineering because they seek to engineer desired behavior.
Examples:
Left: Enacting Gun Control to try and reduce violence, even though the facts/science proves otherwise;
Right: Enacting tough sentencing guidelines for drug users even though the science proves it doesn't help to reduce drug use;
Left Political: Fear campaign against Cuccinelli that he was "anti-Women to help the Democrat win the governor's election;
Right Political: Attacks on Obama's citizenship to try and defeat him in the general election;
Neutral: Encouraging citizens to install and use security software, such as antivirus, anti-phishing, and more complicated passwords to protect the country's internet infrastructures and citizen's private information from identity theft.

I am not interested in debating the above topics, so don't go there. I simply wanted to point out how both sides use Social Engineering and Political Engineering.

And, certain social engineering is good for us all.

CC

[NETim]

Both sides of the political aisle engage in social engineering. From Wikipedia: "Social engineering is a discipline in social science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_science) that refers to efforts to influence popular attitudes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attitude_(psychology)) and social behaviors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_behavior) on a large scale, whether by governments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government) or private groups."

The political version of this is called Political Engineering. Laws are a form of social engineering because they seek to engineer desired behavior.
Examples:
Left: Enacting Gun Control to try and reduce violence, even though the facts/science proves otherwise;
Right: Enacting tough sentencing guidelines for drug users even though the science proves it doesn't help to reduce drug use;
Left Political: Fear campaign against Cuccinelli that he was "anti-Women to help the Democrat win the governor's election;
Right Political: Attacks on Obama's citizenship to try and defeat him in the general election;
Neutral: Encouraging citizens to install and use security software, such as antivirus, anti-phishing, and more complicated passwords to protect the country's internet infrastructures and citizen's private information from identity theft.

I am not interested in debating the above topics, so don't go there. I simply wanted to point out how both sides use Social Engineering and Political Engineering.

And, certain social engineering is good for us all.

CC

Which is precisely why I'm a libertarian. I'll engineer my own damn life. It's no one else's business what kind of fuel economy my vehicle gets, how warm I keep my house, how much water my toilet uses, how many guns I buy and own or who I marry.

To all social engineers, BUTT OUT!

Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty. -- Thomas Jefferson

[BaiHu]

Thank god it's over and cooler heads prevailed:


(CNN) -- Amid a tidal wave of negative publicity, a Colorado school system has let a 6-year-old boy return to school and said it won't classify his kissing a girl on the hand as sexual harassment.
The story of first-grader Hunter Yelton made national news and spurred outrage this week after word spread that his school near Colorado Springs suspended him for the kiss and accused him of sexually harassing the girl.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/12/us/six-year-old-kissing-girl-suspension/index.html

[JM Campbell]

Thank god it's over and cooler heads prevailed:



http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/12/us/six-year-old-kissing-girl-suspension/index.html

Kissed on the hand?.....and they said chivalry was dead.

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[Seven_Sicks_Two]

Filner was just convicted and resigned months ago. I would not say we allowed his behavior...he is paying consequences....perhaps not enough consequences, but we didn't just turn a blind eye.
CC

As an aside, I was listening to the local talk radio station on the way home from work today. They mentioned that they now had an approximate total for the cost of removing and replacing Filner. So far, it has cost taxpayers $8.7 million. We still have yet to hold the run-off election to choose his replacement, so that figure is only going up.

[Robert Mitchum]

Seriously, what on earth is wrong with our society today....
The masses are asses common sense is not in style any more.

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