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ffhounddog
12-03-2013, 02:16 PM
I have been talking with a former soldier who has a collection of 92s and he has offered to sell his 92FS cent. I know the 92FS guns very well and was wondiering if selling a Sig P228 (I have 2) to get this gun would be wise. Before people go crazy they are both safe queens. My P30 and 2000sk get the most carry time then the Walther PPS. I always shoot 50 rounds out of a G23 ever other range visit because my wife carries one off duty and it is just one of those things she can carry in places I cannot.

With being a soldier and having been tasked to train other staff officers on the M9 along with trainig Advisiors going to Iraq and Afghansitan after my last Advisor tour to Iraq 8 hours a day I can pick up a M9 and feel comfortable. Also got to shoot all the M885 I wanted since on the short range marksmenship ranges I ran we I always had ammo. I can also do that with a Glock 19 due to training Iraqi National Police on small arms.

Now you know a little about me this would go with my Beretta 90-2 in 9mm that I shoot for fun and to practice up before matches with the VaANG team.

JV_
12-03-2013, 02:30 PM
I'm having a hard time following your question. Is this a good summary?

You have to help train some folks that will be using an M9. You want a personal gun to brush-up your skills, and you want to know if a 92 Centurion or a 90-Two is better for this task?

ffhounddog
12-03-2013, 02:49 PM
I'm having a hard time following your question. Is this a good summary?

You have to help train some folks that will be using an M9. You want a personal gun to brush-up your skills, and you want to know if a 92 Centurion or a 90-Two is better for this task?

Sorry JV.

Tried to type on the computer at work in between tasks.

I am wondering with my background in shooting the M9 and the rare ness of the 92FS centurion models would justify getting rid of one of my safe queen Sig P228s.

I could get profit for the Sig since the 92FS Centurian is not going to cost as much also I know I would shoot the 92FS centurion more because I actually enjoy shooting the M9. I am comfortable with it.

agent-smith
12-03-2013, 02:51 PM
Sorry JV.

Tried to type on the computer at work in between tasks.

I am wondering with my background in shooting the M9 and the rare ness of the 92FS centurion models would justify getting rid of one of my safe queen Sig P228s.

I could get profit for the Sig since the 92FS Centurian is not going to cost as much also I know I would shoot the 92FS centurion more because I actually enjoy shooting the M9. I am comfortable with it.

Well, this certainly clears things up.

I have absolutely no idea what thought you're trying to convey so unfortunately I can't be of any help.

JV_
12-03-2013, 02:53 PM
Oh. Here's my suggestion:


Sell all safe queens that don't hold sentimental/heirloom value.

Pick one gun that you enjoy shooting, shoot it a bunch, get some good training, and stop switching guns.

Don't buy guns that will be future safe queens.

Sal Picante
12-03-2013, 04:02 PM
Oh. Here's my suggestion:


Sell all safe queens that don't hold sentimental/heirloom value.

Pick one gun that you enjoy shooting, shoot it a bunch, get some good training, and stop switching guns.

Don't buy guns that will be future safe queens.

Very Nice! +1

JonInWA
12-03-2013, 04:53 PM
Wow-that was a muddle to read through...My suggestion would be yes, to sell one of the P228s to finance the Centurion. It'll make a good companion piece to your 90-Two. I wouldn't exactly classify a Centurion as "rare," however-it just seems that those who have 'em tend to hang on them.

Alternatively, you might want to sell off some of your excess inventory and simply buy either another or another variant of your primary use/carry weapon, which sounds like your HK family-perhaps a P30 L or a LEM variant. Since the hardest part of a pistol to conceal is the butt (versus the slide), you're no really going to see that much of a difference in the Centurion compared to your 90-Two, as it's basically a full-size 92 frame (with slight modifications) mated to a shorter barrel/slide.

I understand your divergent interests-but the greater your platform standardization, the less muscle memory confusion/transition time, and presumably the greater your performance achievements in lesser amounts of training time.

Best, Jon

ffhounddog
12-03-2013, 06:56 PM
John,

You are correct I am trying to lower the amount of platforms I have and the 92 series is just easier for me to use. The HK is the other system I have and I prefer the V3 but I do not have an issue trying the LEM. I have used LEM before. I just got caught up with good deals on the HK's in version three so I started to learn those.

Thanks for the help everyone else.

ffh

Joseph B.
12-03-2013, 08:17 PM
Your profile says you are a Army Captain, I am assuming you're still AD. If this is the case, than I would say owning a 92fs is an obvious good idea. Staying current and building your skill sets with a platform you will be carrying throughout your career, is a really smart idea IMHO.

As for selling your different guns, trying to stay on one platform, or owning safe queens. That's pretty much a personal thing, I own more than a few "toys" and "safe queens" that have no other purpose other than being part of my collection. But I would say getting a 92fs is a great idea sir.

ffhounddog
12-03-2013, 09:35 PM
Thanks Joseph,

Thanks again for the good suggestions. I am just trying to limit the amount of guns and even cal's that I need to keep up with. Spares are not bad just for a long time I was out of Sigs but two a P228 and a P229 SAS gen2. I thought I wanted to go back to Sig so I got another P228 but the HK P30 had a better feel in my hand and a better trigger in my opinion.

Rich

GJM
12-03-2013, 09:47 PM
My deal, after years of trying to figure this out, is that Glock is my main platform, and I bounce between other platforms (Sig, Beretta, and soon CZ) to keep the joy in my shooting. Nobody needs an excuse to buy a Beretta -- I bought a 92D Centurion earlier this week on GB.

shooter220
12-04-2013, 06:31 AM
I sold a 96D Centurion at a time when I decided I didn't want to keep with the .40 - I have been casually looking for a 92 Centurion of some flavor (I actually like the Beretta DAO) for the last few years and not seeing them very often. I think the Centurion is a great size weapon, with some decent upsides (no matter which action). If the 228s are safe queens anyway, why not?

-shooter

justintime
12-04-2013, 09:55 AM
I have a 92cent that would love to be traded for a p228 :)

Chuck_S
12-10-2013, 07:27 AM
It's nice to have choices! :) I dumped my P228 years ago for a Beretta 92G Centurion. Like the P228 the G-model decocks only. Unlike the P228 the DA trigger weight is 7.5 pounds and "like butter."

The NYC policeman in the Scott Reitz course I took two months ago was at a severe disadvantage with his SIG (P226?) with the 14 pound trigger weight. And it was DAO! Not surprising he was the only SIG shooter in the course. The rest of us had choices.

-- Chuck

ffhounddog
12-10-2013, 07:34 AM
I get the 92FS cent tomorrow.

justintime
12-10-2013, 10:35 AM
It's nice to have choices! :) I dumped my P228 years ago for a Beretta 92G Centurion. Like the P228 the G-model decocks only. Unlike the P228 the DA trigger weight is 7.5 pounds and "like butter."

The NYC policeman in the Scott Reitz course I took two months ago was at a severe disadvantage with his SIG (P226?) with the 14 pound trigger weight. And it was DAO! Not surprising he was the only SIG shooter in the course. The rest of us had choices.

-- Chuck

I was just wishing my beretta had as light and smooth of a da pull as my 229.

JonInWA
12-11-2013, 08:48 AM
Conversely, I had a SIG-Sauer P229 DAK, and I much prefer the DAO of my Beretta 92D. I found the Beretta far easier to master, despite the SIG's approximately 6.5 lb pull (compared to the (2D's roughly 8/8.5 lb pull); I find the Beretta to have a beautiful rolling pull with a surprise break, much like that on a tuned Smith & Wesson revolver.

Best, Jon