QED, everyone here would agree with your position. If only I could convince my son, dil, wife, etc. Here's my situation: After telling me I'm exactly the type of person who should own guns (responsible is my take on that), they don't TRUST me to keep the firearms separated from little hands, but at the same time, they EXPECT me to protect her. The sheer folly of that boils down to them expecting me, a 69 year old gym rat, to have a very good day and be able to do whatever it takes to achieve this protection WITHOUT my best tools.