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Thread: Front Row Seats for the Collapse of the ACA

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Peally View Post
    I'm guessing there is a happy medium between the garbage government-intrusion-into-every-single-facet-of-medicine-because-think-of-the-children system we have now and Thunderdome.
    Once you make the productive labor of others a "right" there is no good "happy medium", and by definition a government (at least as ours is allegedly constituted) designed to protect our rights is in to the hilt.
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  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Peally View Post
    I'm guessing there is a happy medium between the garbage government-intrusion-into-every-single-facet-of-life-because-think-of-the-children system we have now and Thunderdome.
    FIFY.
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  3. #63
    I have had a lot of experience being in the healthcare system, and I tend to agree with Nephrology's above sentiments at least in regards to critical and acute care situations.

    I do think there are a lot of services that could benefit from some more invisible hand regulation. Day to day stuff, not cancer treatment or you just wrapped your car around a light pole circumstances.

    Let's consider childbirth. You know; a thing we have been doing before we figured out how to rub 2 sticks together.

    I found the hospital bill for my mothers birth while cleaning out old boxes a couple weeks ago. It was $164. Now, those were 1950s dollars so they were obviously better than the ones we have now; but even adjusted for inflation, that would be a bill of just under $1500 in 2017 script.

    In 2012, which was the most recent year in the best vetted study I could easily find no longer having university library access, the average cost of an uncomplicated vaginal birth at a hospital was over $10,000.

    That is an indicator of a big fucking problem, and the problem ain't the fucking.

    I suppose if you happen to live near a large enough community you have the option of a skilled birthing center at a much more affordable rate of $2500 or so, but that is still significantly higher than what inflation would indicate.

    This sort of mundane shit should not cost what it does. Period.


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