Dangit, I bought a Troy rifle last year from DSG, and then boycotted DSG because of their 2A stance.
Now I have to boycott Troy for their 2A stance.
Looks like jwoods is just copy/pasting these exact same replies across the 'net. Example: http://dirtydozensbunker.com/showpos...8&postcount=10
That's disappointing. I thought there was at least some chance that jwood would bring some real answers here, but it now seems quite unlikely that will happen.
I don't understand how the firearm industry is so incapable of learning from the mistakes of others. In just the past few years we've seen personalities, manufacturers, publications, and organizations all stepping in various messes. It seems that 9 times out of 10, one of these god-awful PR campaigns is started ("Hey, let's blast everyone with copy/paste messages! That will persuade them!"). Heels dig in. People just get more frustrated. The Streisand effect ensures that word only spreads farther. And then when all the smoke clears, there's all this collateral damage that could have easily been avoided.
By the way, the whole "we are not involved in Chicago politics" argument is a hilarious excuse. Are we to believe that no one even did a basic Google search on Weis before hiring him? What year are we living in? It seems that internet daters investigate their partners more than Troy investigates someone who is going to represent their name. (Though I guess us gun-stroking basement-dwellers do have more time on our hands.)
"If you run into an a**hole in the morning, you ran into an a**hole. If you run into a**holes all day, you're the a**hole." - Raylan Givens
Speaking of the Dick's deal... I made the terrible mistake of ordering some of your rifles after that whole thing exploded, at the higher price point... They're still sitting in my back room. Distributors recently dropped the price $100 below what I paid, so I dropped them $100 and they still don't sell...
I have a hard time recommending that my customers buy anything made by a company whose values aren't in line with the average gun owner. I guess I will just cost them out and get my $$ back out of them and never order them again (wasn't going to anyway since they aren't moving, but definitely won't consider it now). We already put all our Troy Battle Mags in the $10 value bin to try and get rid of those and as much as I like your backup irons (I have a set on my personal DDM4V5) I guess we'll be looking into alternatives to those as well.
You made your bed, Troy. Time to lie in it.
Kyle
President of Kyle's Gunshop, Inc.
In that same thread he clearly argues as if he is on staff at Troy.
http://dirtydozensbunker.com/showpos...92&postcount=9
Why is the official statement never; "We kittened up, big time. Learning has occurred. Sorry about that, we will be more careful in the future. Thanks to the many people who brought this important issue to our attention".
I'd have a lot of respect for something like that.
It looks like Troy Asymmetric cleaned out all of their blog entries, recently. Luckily, Google cached them:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...tric.com/blog/
They also removed the link to their Instructors page.
ETA: As as result of their web site purge, they have a lot of bad links on their FB page. Doh!
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I am grateful to belong to a community that self-polices as aggressively as this one. It is a necessity in order to keep rotten apples from ruining the bushel, as it were; if only other industries would behave similarly.
Why, imagine if Congress as as interested in the moral integrity of their fellow members!