Shooting incidents in the news.

[0ddl0t]

The shooter brought the kid with them to the shooting.

Who shot the kid is unclear at this time.

There’s done other weird chatter about this thing but it’s unconfirmed. I suggest the usual 24-48 hours for accurate open source info applies.

Reading between the press conference lines makes it sound like the kid was hit by the good guys but that he was still placing all the blame on the woman for creating the situation.

"I will say this... That female, that suspect, put that baby in danger. I'm going to put that blame on her."

[Rex G]

Reading between the press conference lines makes it sound like the kid was hit by the good guys but that he was still placing all the blame on the woman for creating the situation.

That is my take. (I have been through police Active Shooter training.) The kid was, in effect, serving as a human shield, for the shooter, even if she was not actually holding the kid in a position between her and responding officers. (That detail has not yet been disclosed.) A reasonably-acting officer’s gunfire, striking the child, would, reasonably, result in a felony murder charge against the woman, had she survived the incident, and the child been killed.

I like Chief Finner. I like Houston’s new mayor. I am healthier, now, in some ways, than when I retired, six years ago. If HPD were to decide to adopt a reserve officer program, I just might renew my state peace officer license, and try to help with the manpower situation.

[TAZ]

There is some crazy talk of free Palestine ideology from the shooter, which could lend some credence to her bringing the kid along. However, all this talk is just that for now. I’ve not seen a single thing to confirm anything. The media and HPD are keeping a lid on things, which from HPD is a good thing till facts can be presented.


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[Malamute]

New Mexico officer stabbed to death while on duty before suspect is shot and killed by witness, police say


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-cru...death-suspect/


Not much for details yet, this was the most recent item.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

There is some crazy talk of free Palestine ideology from the shooter, which could lend some credence to her bringing the kid along. However, all this talk is just that for now. I’ve not seen a single thing to confirm anything. The media and HPD are keeping a lid on things, which from HPD is a good thing till facts can be presented.


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CNN says "Free Palestine" written on the AR. Some explosive, maybe, components with her. Identity of the child not specified yet. Her home is being taken apart and I'm sure her media presence, etc.

News conference in a bit but I'm going out.

Side bar, go to gym. Local PD officer at the door because of ethnic threats. Gives you the 'eye'. I look like a nice old geezer, we cross eyes - get wished a nice day, SIR.

[HCM]

There is some crazy talk of free Palestine ideology from the shooter, which could lend some credence to her bringing the kid along. However, all this talk is just that for now. I’ve not seen a single thing to confirm anything. The media and HPD are keeping a lid on things, which from HPD is a good thing till facts can be presented.


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CNN says "Free Palestine" written on the AR. Some explosive, maybe, components with her. Identity of the child not specified yet. Her home is being taken apart and I'm sure her media presence, etc.

News conference in a bit but I'm going out.

Side bar, go to gym. Local PD officer at the door because of ethnic threats. Gives you the 'eye'. I look like a nice old geezer, we cross eyes - get wished a nice day, SIR.

I would not put much faith in the reliability of CNN citing anonymous sources.

There are some other aspects of this that are weird and have been confirmed.

The suspect did claim to have explosives, which was unfounded. My understanding is the claim was made after the shooter was down, which makes me think it could have been to delay medical if this was a “suicide by cop.”

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[0ddl0t]

Church shooter was transgender El salvadorian identifying as a female named Genesse but with a criminal record & mental health hold dating back to 2005 under the name Jeffrey Escalante. There was a domestic dispute with the ex & his family.

According to the Washington Post, the 56 year old man shot in the hip and the shooter's 7 year old son shot in the head were hit by security. The 7 year old is not expected to survive.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Still the fog of war - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/12/u...-shooting.html

Gender issues, antisemitism, mental illness , assault rifle access, history of interactions - pick your causality for your politics will be the game for awhile.

Probably turn out to be a grievance, suicide by cop, gender identity, trying leave a message about something, maybe specific grudge with that church, freedom of religion and Christianity under attack? Who knows now.

For more:

“We don’t understand why these things happen, but we know God’s in control,” said Mr. Osteen, who tends to avoid wading into politics. “There are forces of evil, but the forces that are for us, the forces of God, are stronger than that.”

Let's cue up theodicy and Thomas Aquinas.

The gender identity and immigration issues will be played up or down by the usual talking doofuses and HERE'S OUR PANEL OF EXPERTS!

[HCM]

Church shooter was transgender El salvadorian identifying as a female named Genesse but with a criminal record & mental health hold dating back to 2005 under the name Jeffrey Escalante. There was a domestic dispute with the ex & his family.

According to the Washington Post, the 56 year old man shot in the hip and the shooter's 7 year old son shot in the head were hit by security. The 7 year old is not expected to survive.

That is my understanding but there is a local ABC story which seems to be claiming the opposite.

https://abc13.com/lakewood-church-sh...-boy/14414345/