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    Week 77: Variable Scoring No.2

    Week 77: Variable Scoring No.2
    results may be posted until 11:59pm EST on Friday 16-August-2013.

    Range: 7yd
    Target: B-8 25yd Timed/Rapid repair center (download a .pdf of this target here)
    Start position: holstered
    Rounds fired: 5 (6 if starting from ready position)

    We continue our examination of different scoring systems and how they impact training with a single simple drill that we'll then score multiple different ways. This week's version uses a target with multiple scoring zones. Each hit is worth a certain number of points as indicated on the target.

    If you are using a holster, draw and fire five rounds at the target on the buzzer. If you are shooting from a ready position, fire six rounds. Record your points and your time. For purposes of this DotW, X-ring hits are worth 10 points.

    Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:
    • starting position (ready, competition holster, duty holster, or concealed)
    • gun & holster used
    • points scored
    • time


    Then calculate your "score" based on different scoring systems:
    IDPA: raw time and add 0.5 seconds for each point you dropped
    KSTG: raw time and add 1.0 seconds for each point you dropped
    USPSA: points (minus 10 for each complete miss) / raw time

    Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.
    Last edited by ToddG; 08-09-2013 at 08:06 PM.
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    • starting position: concealed
    • gun & holster used: SACS-Warren 9mm 1911 & 5 Shot Leather SME
    • points scored: 50 1st run / 48 2nd run
    • time: 2.29s 1st run / 2.11s 2nd run


    1st run: 50 points in 2.29 seconds
    IDPA: 2.29s
    KSTG: 2.29s
    USPSA: 50 / 2.29 = 21.83

    2nd run: 48 points in 2.11 seconds
    IDPA: 2.11 + (2 * 0.5) = 3.11s
    KSTG: 2.11 + (2 * 1.0) = 4.11s
    USPSA: 48 / 2.11 = 22.75
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    Starting position: Hands at sides, duty holster
    Gun & holster used: Glock 17 w/ TLR-1, Safariland ALS
    Points scored: 47 1st run / 40 2nd run
    Time: 2.62s 1st run / 2.18s 2nd run

    1st run: 47 points in 2.62 seconds
    IDPA: 2.62 + (3 * 0.5) = 4.12s
    KSTG: 2.62 + (3 * 1.0) = 5.62s
    USPSA: 47 / 2.62 = 17.938

    2nd run: 40 points in 2.18 seconds
    IDPA: 2.18 + (10 * 0.5) = 7.18s
    KSTG: 2.18 + (10 * 1.0) = 12.18s
    USPSA: 40 / 2.18 = 18.348
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    SW M&P Shield 9mm, 3:00 OWB, concealed underneath a tee shirt
    Federal 124gr Hydra-Shok (#P9HSG1)

    Run1: 4.10, 46/50, IDPA 6.10, KSTG 8.10, USPSA 11.22
    Run2: 3.47, 42/50, IDPA 7.47, KSTG 11.47, USPSA 12.10
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    M&P9L, Comp-Tac OWB Strong Side Hip under Vest

    1st Run: 50/50 in 3.12
    IDPA: 3.12
    KSTG: 3.12
    USPSA: 50/3.12 = 16.025

    2nd Run: 45/50 in 2.65
    IDPA: 5.15
    KSTG: 7.65
    USPSA: 45/2.65 = 16.981
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    Location
    SE Wisconsin
    My initial entry into DOTW:

    Starting position: Hands at sides, Concealed (heavy chamois, button-front shirt)
    Gun & holster used: Glock 17, Uncle Mike's LE Kydex Holster
    Points scored: 49 1st run / 50 2nd run
    Time: 5.08s 1st run / 4.39s 2nd run

    1st run (cold): 49 points in 5.08 seconds
    IDPA: 5.08 + (1 * 0.5) = 5.58s
    KSTG: 5.08 + (1 * 1.0) = 6.08s
    USPSA: 49 / 5.08 = 9.65

    2nd run: 50 points in 4.39 seconds
    IDPA: 4.39 + (0 * 0.5) = 4.39s
    KSTG: 4.39 + (0 * 1.0) = 4.39s
    USPSA: 50 / 4.39 = 11.39
    "Draw fast, shoot well," Mike W.
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    Location
    North Carolina
    Starting Position: Concealed
    Gun & Holster: S&W M&P9 in a JMCK AIWB

    1: 49/50, 3.89s
    IDPA: 4.39
    KSTG: 4.89
    USPSA: 12.59

    2: 46/50, 3.18s
    IDPA: 5.18
    KSTG: 7.18
    USPSA: 14.46

    3: 48/50, 3.71s
    IDPA: 4.71
    KSTG: 5.71
    USPSA: 12.94
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    • starting position (ready, competition holster, duty holster, or concealed): Concealed
    • gun & holster used: Gen3 G34, Keeper


    Run 1: 2.84 seconds, 50 points
    IDPA: 2.84
    KSTG: 2.84
    USPSA: 17.60

    Run 2: 1.83 seconds, 43 points
    IPDA: 5.33
    KSTG: 8.83
    USPSA: 23.49

    USPSA's scoring seems most realistic on this one.
    Technical excellence supports tactical preparedness
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    Concealed, M&P9, Blade-Tech.

    Run 1: 46 points, 3.48 seconds
    IDPA: 5.48
    KSTG: 7.48
    USPSA: 13.22

    Run 2: 43 points, 3.65 seconds
    IDPA: 7.15
    KSTG: 10.65
    USPSA: 11.78
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    by IDPA results:

    IDPA KSTG USPSA
    1 ToddG (1) 2.29 2.29 21.83
    2 OrigamiAK (1) 2.84 2.84 17.60
    3 ToddG (2) 3.11 4.11 22.75
    4 AJZ (1) 3.12 3.12 16.03
    5 01G8R (1) 4.12 5.62 17.94
    6 2a-d0 (1) 4.39 4.89 12.59
    7 dustyvarmint (2) 4.39 4.39 11.39
    8 2a-d0 (3) 4.71 5.71 12.94
    9 AJZ (2) 5.15 7.65 16.98
    10 2a-d0 (2) 5.18 7.18 14.46
    11 OrigamiAK (2) 5.33 8.83 23.49
    12 Corey (1) 5.48 7.48 13.22
    13 dustyvarmint (1) 5.58 6.08 9.65
    14 Skintop911 (1) 6.10 8.10 11.22
    15 Corey (2) 7.15 10.65 11.78
    16 01G8R (2) 7.18 12.18 18.35
    17 Skintop911 (2) 7.47 11.47 12.10




    by KSTG results:

    IDPA KSTG USPSA
    1 ToddG (1) 2.29 2.29 21.83
    2 OrigamiAK (1) 2.84 2.84 17.60
    3 AJZ (1) 3.12 3.12 16.03
    4 ToddG (2) 3.11 4.11 22.75
    5 dustyvarmint (2) 4.39 4.39 11.39
    6 2a-d0 (1) 4.39 4.89 12.59
    7 01G8R (1) 4.12 5.62 17.94
    8 2a-d0 (3) 4.71 5.71 12.94
    9 dustyvarmint (1) 5.58 6.08 9.65
    10 2a-d0 (2) 5.18 7.18 14.46
    11 Corey (1) 5.48 7.48 13.22
    12 AJZ (2) 5.15 7.65 16.98
    13 Skintop911 (1) 6.10 8.10 11.22
    14 OrigamiAK (2) 5.33 8.83 23.49
    15 Corey (2) 7.15 10.65 11.78
    16 Skintop911 (2) 7.47 11.47 12.10
    17 01G8R (2) 7.18 12.18 18.35




    by USPSA results:


    1 OrigamiAK (2) 5.33 8.83 23.49
    2 ToddG (2) 3.11 4.11 22.75
    3 ToddG (1) 2.29 2.29 21.83
    4 01G8R (2) 7.18 12.18 18.35
    5 01G8R (1) 4.12 5.62 17.94
    6 OrigamiAK (1) 2.84 2.84 17.60
    7 AJZ (2) 5.15 7.65 16.98
    8 AJZ (1) 3.12 3.12 16.03
    9 2a-d0 (2) 5.18 7.18 14.46
    10 Corey (1) 5.48 7.48 13.22
    11 2a-d0 (3) 4.71 5.71 12.94
    12 2a-d0 (1) 4.39 4.89 12.59
    13 Skintop911 (2) 7.47 11.47 12.10
    14 Corey (2) 7.15 10.65 11.78
    15 dustyvarmint (2) 4.39 4.39 11.39
    16 Skintop911 (1) 6.10 8.10 11.22
    17 dustyvarmint (1) 5.58 6.08 9.65
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