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  1. #21
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    I believe H&K experimented with caseless ammunition decades ago... the book about gun I had growing up talked about it, and that book was from 1978 or 1982 or around there...

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    H&K had some sort of Bullpup rifle that used caseless ammo, the G11 I believe. It was plagued with overheating problems
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyC View Post
    H&K had some sort of Bullpup rifle that used caseless ammo, the G11 I believe. It was plagued with overheating problems
    That and the Berlin Wall came down, and the BRD found itself in possession of tons of DDR / Soviet military hardware...
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    The US has also looked into caseless ammo in the last couple years. From what I understand, all we've done is rediscover everything the Germans found out 20+ years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGS View Post
    The US has also looked into caseless ammo in the last couple years. From what I understand, all we've done is rediscover everything the Germans found out 20+ years ago.

    NDIA Presentation: Lightweight Small Arms Technology (LSAT)

    HK G11 video. Just because, HK:
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGS View Post
    The US has also looked into caseless ammo in the last couple years. From what I understand, all we've done is rediscover everything the Germans found out 20+ years ago.
    The .mil has been looking at caseless ammo almost as long as the Jerries have, and keeps running into the same problems: Obturation, extraction, and lack of a cartridge case to serve as a self-disposing heat sink.

    I believe that we're fiddling with polymer-cased telescoped ammo now which will at least solve the first two problems.

 

 

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