Gun Companies ... Joe vs LEO

[Mitchell, Esq.]

To the NYPD carrying M9's loaded with mil spec ball in military holsters.

[TGS]

To the NYPD carrying M9's loaded with mil spec ball in military holsters.

Unfortunately, I don't think even 1/8th of the firearms industry has the fortitude to make that happen.

We've got Olympic and Larue. Now we need S&W, FNH, Glock, HK, Beretta, SIG, Walther, BCM, Noveske, Colt, Daniel Defense, Rock River Arms, Bushmaster, LWRC, LMT, ect ect ect

[Bigkrackers]

Unfortunately, I don't think even 1/8th of the firearms industry has the fortitude to make that happen.

We've got Olympic and Larue. Now we need S&W, FNH, Glock, HK, Beretta, SIG, Walther, BCM, Noveske, Colt, Daniel Defense, Rock River Arms, Bushmaster, LWRC, LMT, ect ect ect

We best get started contacting them then. If people on gun forums took half the time contacting these manufactures than posting we might get their attention. I'll help everyone out a bit who want to participate in the effort:

S&W - Could remind them that participating in a ban would go a long way to making up for what they did in 2000.
Email: qa@smith-wesson.com
Telephone:
1-800-331-0852 (USA)
1-413-781-8300 (International)
Fax:
1-413-747-3317 (USA)
1-413-731-8980 (International)
Mail:
Smith & Wesson
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01104

FNH USA
PO Box 9424
McLean, VA 22102
Phone: 703-288-3500
Fax: 703-288-4507
E-Mail: info@fnhusa.com

GLOCK, Inc. - might suggest that Glock could drop every pistol scheduled for LEO delivery into the civilian market and they would sell out.
6000 Highlands Parkway
Smyrna, GA 30082
U.S.A.
Tel.: +1 770 - 432 1202
Fax: +1 770 - 433 8719

HECKLER & KOCH
5675 Transport Boulevard
Columbus, Georgia 31907 USA
Tel: (706) 568-1906
Fax: (706) 568-9151
E-mail: cs@heckler-koch-us.com

SIG SAUER, Inc.
18 Industrial Drive
Exeter, NH 03833
Phone: 603-772-2302
Fax: 603-772-9082
http://www.sigsauer.com

BCM
Toll-Free 1-877-BRAVO CO
M - F | 8am - 4pm CST
info@BravoCompanyUSA.com

Noveske Rifleworks LLC
P.O. Box 607
Grants Pass, Oregon 97528
Phone: (541) 479-6117
Fax: (541) 479-2555

Colt Defense LLC
P.O. Box 118
Hartford, CT, 06141
Tel: (800) 241-2485 / (860) 232-4489
Fax: (860) 244-1442

Daniel Defense
101 Warfighter Way
Black Creek, GA 31308
Phone (866) 554-GUNS (4867)
Fax (912)-851-3248

Bushmaster
Phone: 1-800-883-6229
Email:info@bushmaster.com
Mail:
Bushmaster Firearms International
P.O. Box 556
Madison, NC 27025

Rock River Arms, Inc.
1042 Cleveland Road, Colona, IL 61241
Tel: 309-792-5780, Fax: 309-792-5781
Call Toll Free: 1-866-980-Rock (7625)

[Drang]

We best get started contacting them then. If people on gun forums took half the time contacting these manufactures than posting we might get their attention. I'll help everyone out a bit who want to participate in the effort:

S&W - Could remind them that participating in a ban would go a long way to making up for what they did in 2000.

If you go that route, make it clear that you understand that the pommies are gone, but many seem unaware of that fact.
(Tomkins PLC sold to Saf-T-Hammer in 2001. No one responsible for the 2000 agreement is left.)

[Mitchell, Esq.]

Even if the firearms industry stopped selling to liberal states Police Department, I'm pretty sure they could just hide the orders by selling to other states Police Department and sending FedEx boxes from 1 Police Department to the other with a wink and a nod from the ATF.

LAPD needs firearms, no problem. Las Vegas Metro seems to be going through an awful lot of them this year...

Read the book thank you for smoking. I believe the author was Kyle mills but I'm not sure. It's a fictional account of the tobacco industry fighting back by admitting cigarettes are dangerous, then stopping production of cigarettes and other tobacco products until the government finally decided what they were going to do with the tobacco industry.


I don't think they want to force the issue. If they did, then they would have to do something pretty drastic.

If the firearms industry simply said " we are tired of your ambiguity on the future of our industry and we are suspending all sales of firearms and ammunition to the civilian and government markets military included, until you figure out what are place in American society is going to be for the future." things would get pretty heated very quickly and instead of this death by 1000 cuts garbage which find out pretty quickly what the future will hold.

[Kyle Reese]

Even if the firearms industry stopped selling to liberal states Police Department, I'm pretty sure they could just hide the orders by selling to other states Police Department and sending FedEx boxes from 1 Police Department to the other with a wink and a nod from the ATF.

LAPD needs firearms, no problem. Las Vegas Metro seems to be going through an awful lot of them this year...

Read the book thank you for smoking. I believe the author was Kyle mills but I'm not sure. It's a fictional account of the tobacco industry fighting back by admitting cigarettes are dangerous, then stopping production of cigarettes and other tobacco products until the government finally decided what they were going to do with the tobacco industry.


I don't think they want to force the issue. If they did, then they would have to do something pretty drastic.

If the firearms industry simply said " we are tired of your ambiguity on the future of our industry and we are suspending all sales of firearms and ammunition to the civilian and government markets military included, until you figure out what are place in American society is going to be for the future." things would get pretty heated very quickly and instead of this death by 1000 cuts garbage which find out pretty quickly what the future will hold.

Could the powers that be nationalize certain firearms / ammunition producers in the event something like that happened?

[BCL]

Could the powers that be nationalize certain firearms / ammunition producers in the event something like that happened?

With the federal government having the TDP for the M16 FOW and the M9, they could probably resurrect the original (government-run) Springfield Armory or something of that nature to get most of the small arms for the military produced. I'm assuming after this happens, some drug deal could be made with certain states to provide said weapons to the states in question for further distribution.

At least that's how I would do it if I were the government.

[Bigkrackers]

Even if the firearms industry stopped selling to liberal states Police Department, I'm pretty sure they could just hide the orders by selling to other states Police Department and sending FedEx boxes from 1 Police Department to the other with a wink and a nod from the ATF.

LAPD needs firearms, no problem. Las Vegas Metro seems to be going through an awful lot of them this year...

You mean illegal straw man purchases? I think the ATF has done enough of those for awhile. Practically speaking, there are gun manufactures who are HQ'd out of the States that wouldn't go along with a ban. But there are a number of companies that call the USA home who should care.

[Bigkrackers]

With the federal government having the TDP for the M16 FOW and the M9, they could probably resurrect the original (government-run) Springfield Armory or something of that nature to get most of the small arms for the military produced. I'm assuming after this happens, some drug deal could be made with certain states to provide said weapons to the states in question for further distribution.

At least that's how I would do it if I were the government.

It would not get to that point. Besides, the states could not afford what the government would charge.

I don't see Glock, Sig, HK or CZ doing anything. But all AR15's that LEO use are made by companies HQ'd in the US and they should all be doing what Oly and York Arms have done. Same goes for parts manufactures and optics like LaRue did.

[hufnagel]

Could the powers that be nationalize certain firearms / ammunition producers in the event something like that happened?

With the federal government having the TDP for the M16 FOW and the M9, they could probably resurrect the original (government-run) Springfield Armory or something of that nature to get most of the small arms for the military produced. I'm assuming after this happens, some drug deal could be made with certain states to provide said weapons to the states in question for further distribution.

At least that's how I would do it if I were the government.

I ran that "war game" a bit back (on this site? I can't keep them all straight anymore. ) and the scenario was intriguing to say the least. they would have to federalize/commander more than just a manufacturing facility; they'd have to secure the entire supply chain from raw materials to end product delivery. just remember... small acts of sabotage.