Why I Love TN

[WDW]

http://www.wsmv.com/story/20605643/t...rcing-gun-laws

Long story short, come what may, I am not doing the following...

A. Registering anything I owned prior to these laws

B. Selling, registering, or in any other way getting rid of my "High Cap" mags

Some of BO's propositions are utterly unenforceable and I have my doubts that many of his proposals will even become law.

[F-Trooper05]

Same bill introduced in Alaska...

http://www.newsminer.com/news/alaska...9bb30f31a.html

[TGS]

This is awesome.

F-Trooper.....being you've worked in politics, can you tell me how much weight these laws actually carry when push comes to shove if they pass? Is it more of just politicians blowing smoke, or what?

[RoyGBiv]

Legally, Supremacy Clause trumps state law.
Practically, it's like any other law.
Enforcement is directly proportional to resources and the conviction of the people involved.

These proposed State laws are feel-good but ain't worth squat constitutionally.... Unless...

[LHS]

This is awesome.

F-Trooper.....being you've worked in politics, can you tell me how much weight these laws actually carry when push comes to shove if they pass? Is it more of just politicians blowing smoke, or what?

IANAL, but these are purely protest laws. For better or for worse, state law is subordinate to Federal law as long as the Federal law doesn't tread on the 10th or 9th amendments. Since almost all of the Federal regulations are based on the Commerce Clause, and the overly expansive view of its power by SCOTUS, any of these state laws would be effectively useless. These laws are political protest theater, and nothing more. That said, I'm glad they're being passed, because the statement needs to be made.

[F-Trooper05]

This is awesome.

F-Trooper.....being you've worked in politics, can you tell me how much weight these laws actually carry when push comes to shove if they pass? Is it more of just politicians blowing smoke, or what?

As far as whether or not this particular legislation has a chance of passing, I would say that at least in Alaska's case, it's more of just a political statement than anything.

With that said, our State Legislator does have a history of passing gun laws that give the Feds the middle finger. In 2010 Alaska passed the Alaska Firearms Freedom Act (which was sponsored by a State Rep whom my cousin was the Chief of Staff for at the time), which essentially states that any gun or accessory (IE: suppressors) made in Alaska and sold in Alaska cannot be regulated by the Feds. So obviously some of these bills are more than just for show.

On the other hand, I don't know of any firearms manufacturers in Alaska, and I have no idea how involved the Federal government would actually get if they suddenly started seeing a bunch of Alaskans shooting unregistered, suppressed, machine guns with "Made in Alaska" stamped on the side.

[RoyGBiv]

In Texas, HB553 was introduced today.

"Second Amendment Preservation Act"

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs...l/HB00553I.htm

I especially enjoyed that this Bill quotes Jefferson's Kentucky resolutions.

(b) The Legislature of the State of Texas hereby finds:

(6)That all federal acts, laws, executive orders,
agency orders, and rules or regulations of all kinds with the
purpose, intent, or effect of confiscating any firearm, banning any
firearm, limiting the size of a magazine for any firearm, imposing
any limit on the ammunition that may be purchased for any firearm,
taxing any firearm or ammunition therefore, or requiring the
registration of any firearm or ammunition therefore, infringes upon
Texan's right to bear arms in direct violation of the Second
Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, and therefore,
any such law is not made in pursuance of the Constitution, is not
authorized by the Constitution, and thus, is not the supreme law of
the land, and consequently, is invalid in this State and shall be
further considered null and void and of no effect in this State.

SECTION 2. Chapter 46, Penal Code, is amended by adding
Section 46.16 to read as follows:

Sec. 46.16. Second Amendment Shall Remain Inviolate;
Offences; Penalties.

(a) A person who is a Peace Officer, State Officer, or State
Employee commits an offense if the person, while acting under color
of the person's office or employment, intentionally enforces or
attempts to enforce any acts, laws, executive orders, agency
orders, rules or regulations of any kind whatsoever of the United
States government relating to confiscating any firearm, banning any
firearm, limiting the size of a magazine for any firearm, imposing
any limit on the ammunition that may be purchased for any firearm,
taxing any firearm or ammunition therefore, or requiring the
registration of any firearm or ammunition therefore.

(b) A person who is a public servant commits an offense if
the person, while acting under color of the person's office or
employment, intentionally enforces or attempts to enforce any acts,
laws, executive orders, agency orders, rules or regulations of any
kind whatsoever of the United States government relating to
confiscating any firearm, banning any firearm, limiting the size
of a magazine for any firearm, imposing any limit on the ammunition
that may be purchased for any firearm, taxing any firearm or
ammunition therefore, or requiring the registration of any firearm
or ammunition therefore.

<snip>

(d) An offense under Subsection (a) is a Class B
misdemeanor punishable by confinement for a term not to exceed 180
days, a fine of not more than $5,000, or both the confinement and
the fine.

(e) An offense under Subsection (b) is a Class A misdemeanor
punishable by confinement for a term not to exceed one year, a fine
of not more than $10,000, or both the confinement and the fine.

[RoyGBiv]

And this...
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem..._laws_move.php

Here in Texas, you will have the liberty and the opportunity to achieve your dreams. On top of that, we have no income tax, yet still manage to have a multi-billion dollar budget surplus. We have right to work laws and a reasonable regulatory environment. Texas has created more than 275,000 jobs in the last year alone! And we’ll fight like hell to protect your rights.

You’ll also get to keep more of what you earn and use some of that extra money to buy more ammo.

I hope to see you soon in Texas. In the meantime, sign up to show your support for our second amendment rights.

Addressing a conservative policy group in Austin last week, Texas Governor Rick Perry said that "I'm sure that I couldn't get all 49 other governors to admit that they would want to be Texans,” and then, referencing Cuomo's support for gun control said, "I'm thinking that Gov. Cuomo would not admit that he'd want to be a Texan."

"But if he were truthful," Perry added, "you could say that the economic climate that has allowed the state to grow and create jobs, he'd dearly love to be able to stand up and say, 'We did this in New York.' But he can't."

[Kyle Reese]

And this...
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem..._laws_move.php

I love it!

[WDW]

Even if these proposals don't become law or if they do, don't change anything, it's nice to see that at least some elected officials stand up for what's right in the face of a cruel, maniacal majority of fascist careerists.