Haha, I just saw the post-date on this. Amazing how much things have changed in just 2 years, isn't it? I think the only thing that changes faster than LED technology are iPhones getting longer. I remember E-mailing Gene Malkoff a few years back asking about a 300 OTF lumen 2-CR123 single-die light. He said sadly it couldn't be done, and 230 OTF or so was about it. Now we have 800+ OTF lumens from that combination. Heck, factory Surefire lights are 500+.