Especially while doing your "duty?"Originally Posted by Suvorov
Especially while doing your "duty?"
"The victor is not victorious if the vanquished does not consider himself so."
― Ennius
My first thought was: If the gun belt can stay on, why not just leave everything in place? If the gun needs to come off, why not remove the entire belt and keep everything together and secured?
Thinking about this further, you may have a point. If the whole belt must be hung someplace where it could be grabbed by someone outside a stall, separating the gun might make sense.
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I agree with your practice of removing the holster with the gun when CCW. With heavy guns and belts during the limited experience I have carrying them, I really don’t like that laying on the floor of the bathroom (or porta John). I know a few who say they remove their weapon when taking a sit, but I know their are legions here with far more experience than me in this matter who can chime in.
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I have a hard time believing that a police officer in duty uniform (which can assume is the worst case scenario for this incident vs. plain clothes) has not figured out, in all the years of police officers wearing duty belts how to drop a deuce without taking their gun out of the holster.
I also have a hard time believing that anyone would think its a good idea to do so and that the legal liability of the brass above that person would ever say that was an ok thing to do. Even from a practical stand point, what do you do with the gun when you wipe?
I have been surprised before however... so there is that.
I use the Safariland QLS you reference, but that is to facilitate my need to attach and remove my weapon frequently. I know many who won't use it for fear that the clip will fail in time of need. I would be surprised if this method is used with Police Duty Belts.
Uniformed police officers?
Last edited by Suvorov; 04-05-2024 at 12:26 PM.
Carrying IWB, I will leave everything in place and roll the waistband of the pants inward. This keeps gear covered and secure. I can see that bit working with a duty belt
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We were taught to pop our keepers and wear the duty belt around our neck like a purse.
Ken
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Personally I use the QLS for this (and other) situations such as entering a correctional facility where the gun must come off. QLS or no, if in an unsecure facility the entire belt needs to be under control in the stall. I’m always impressed our female officers have figured out a way to deal with duty belts much quicker than me. It’s usually a few minutes to get the belt situated after taking care of business.
Personal opinion- anyone who can’t figure out how to drop trousers without upholstering should probably have washed out of a hiring process.
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So you utilize the QLS on a duty rig?
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