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    Quote Originally Posted by CCT125US View Post
    @donovanm ... so what you are saying is that many of us here have already shot our allowance for the year........ within this month
    I've shot 650 of that in 4 days this week, and this is just a "normal" week for me. I may hit 1,000 by Sunday. 1,000 a year is a sad life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOP View Post
    I've shot 650 of that in 4 days this week, and this is just a "normal" week for me. I may hit 1,000 by Sunday. 1,000 a year is a sad life.
    1,000 per year / 250ish a quarter is spot on for CBP/USBP/ICE. While no much by P--f.com standards, there are local agencies shooting far less. CBP/USBP/ICE and Legacy INS have been the largest buyers of .40 caliber in the U.S. for years.

    Re: FLETC: An average FLETC basic student will fire betwen 1500 and 2500 rounds of pistol ammuntion depending on their program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOP View Post
    I've shot 650 of that in 4 days this week, and this is just a "normal" week for me. I may hit 1,000 by Sunday. 1,000 a year is a sad life.
    Hell, 2,500-3,000 a year is a sad life. Ask me how I know

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    This was my take else where...

    That is standard government contracting talk. They aren't buying that
    many rounds, they have the option to buy that many rounds at that
    given price up to the specified number. The maximum number is going
    to be way higher than they every think they'll need to make sure they
    don't lose the price.

    Government contracting rules make it very difficult to do much of
    anything. If you're going to get ammo approved, you don't want to
    have to do it multiple times. If you want to start an interesting
    rumor, tell 'em that the NPS ordered 15,000 rounds of .22 ammo for
    just one park, which I just did. We must be bent on mass political
    assassinations with silenced 22's because how could we possibly need
    that much ammo - right? I don't need that many for this year's
    training block but I don't want to fight the bureaucratic crap every
    year to buy the particular load I want. When I order ammo, I try to
    order into the future with the additional consideration that the
    funding may not be there next year.

    It is also common practice to allow other Federal agencies to buy off
    of your contract. For instance, I can buy Federal Bonded Tactical
    ammo off of the FBI contract even though I'm not an FBI agent. Once
    the price is secured, it's good for everyone. Also, consider that DHS
    runs FLETC. FLETC fires something like 20 million rounds a year as
    part of its training programs. That isn't for the agencies, that's
    just for training at FLETC. The various agencies included in DHS
    aren't included in those numbers. When you have hundreds of LEO's
    qualifying on a quartely basis, the numbers can add up.

    Sorry, I've worked for the Feds for too long to believe that anybody
    can orchestrate anything behind anybody's back. They can't even
    orchestrate anything in the open...

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    If I had a stash of .40 S&W like that, I might just buy a Gen 4 G22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Hearne View Post


    Sorry, I've worked for the Feds for too long to believe that anybody
    can orchestrate anything behind anybody's back. They can't even
    orchestrate anything in the open...
    Thats Funny.....can you say Project Gunrunner

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