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    Never has the intellectual v emotional state of society been contrasted so heavily in recent times.

    Perhaps we are no longer living in the "Age of Reason", but now the " Age of Emotion". Facts and the truths of the universe no longer matter, it is only the social and individual feelings which matter and thus should be the basis of our policy decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GardoneVT View Post
    Never has the intellectual v emotional state of society been contrasted so heavily in recent times.

    Perhaps we are no longer living in the "Age of Reason", but now the " Age of Emotion". Facts and the truths of the universe no longer matter, it is only the social and individual feelings which matter and thus should be the basis of our policy decisions.
    Excellent observation.....I ll be stealing that.

    I I actually think the mass shooting folks were the stupid ones on this. I take second amendment discussions quite seriously, and making a a drama production bothers me to the core. I work my tail off trying to have logical debate with the other side, often using their own pet issues against them. Meanwhile, stupid gets press.
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    Stupid always gets press because real thought out logic gets the tl;dr in a newspaper page.

    That and reporters aren't known for their deep level of knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyeti View Post
    Excellent observation.....I ll be stealing that.

    I I actually think the mass shooting folks were the stupid ones on this. I take second amendment discussions quite seriously, and making a a drama production bothers me to the core. I work my tail off trying to have logical debate with the other side, often using their own pet issues against them. Meanwhile, stupid gets press.
    Indeed.

    The "Mock Mass Shooting" was IMO a major blunder. From a logical standpoint it was a slam dunk- can't predict when one will happen, LE and public response is always delayed , etcetera.

    Unfortunately it was a total failure because it had zero emotional relevance. We aren't debating Socrates in an Athens theatre. Too many people in the pro-gun camp think if we throw charts and facts and data the other side will fold up their tents in defeat, and it just doesn't work that way in the modern cultural idiom.

    Were I tasked with the unenviable job of educating Johnny Xbox and Jane Instagram about the relevance of armed self defense, I'd dispense with guns and blood. Folks who've never fought can't relate to violence.

    Instead I'd recruit ten or so folks, put mobile cell phone signal jammers in their backpacks, and have them camp out in various areas on campus with a lot of people. No phone service means no Instagram, Pinterest, Snapchat....or calling Mom and Dad.

    The next day id pose a simple question. You're cut off from the world . You're on your own.

    What
    Will
    You
    Do?

    Let the emotional relevance of being isolated sink in first. You'd be surprised how many "adults" in society collapse in tears at the thought of being without an iPhone for two business days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GardoneVT View Post
    Instead I'd recruit ten or so folks, put mobile cell phone signal jammers in their backpacks, and have them camp out in various areas on campus with a lot of people.
    Have fun sitting in jail for a very long time. You'd be violating multiple laws of the United States, each with penalties of up to 10 years imprisonment.

    Quote Originally Posted by GardoneVT View Post
    No phone service means no Instagram, Pinterest, Snapchat....or calling Mom and Dad.
    And also no emergency services.

    An even worse idea than the mock mass shooting.

    ETA: I get that you might only be suggesting this as a theoretical, but people do insanely stupid shit these days which are outright criminal. Like teenage gamers who "SWAT" each other as a seemingly harmless prank or demonstration to make a political point......and rightfully get their 25-to-life prison sentences. I can totally see some student group doing exactly what you propose.
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    "in droves"

    "about 100 protesters"

    100?

    That's like, not even remotely a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GardoneVT View Post
    Never has the intellectual v emotional state of society been contrasted so heavily in recent times.

    Perhaps we are no longer living in the "Age of Reason", but now the " Age of Emotion". Facts and the truths of the universe no longer matter, it is only the social and individual feelings which matter and thus should be the basis of our policy decisions.
    Cooper called it "The Age of the Common Man."
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    Sounds like excellent material for a future South Park episode.

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