Originally Posted by ST911
Yes.
Two of them, G19s, bought together at Don Streicher's Police Supply in '89.
Yes.
Two of them, G19s, bought together at Don Streicher's Police Supply in '89.
"Therefore, since the world has still... Much good, but much less good than ill,
And while the sun and moon endure, Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
I'd face it as a wise man would, And train for ill and not for good." -- A.E. Housman
No doubt the RSA of the glocks work well enough, I kept them in most of the glocks I had. But I have seen damage in many of them, in the front end.
I'm a KISS kind of guy, I really like metal guide rods (I've never seen one bent or damaged enough to impair function) and non captive recoil springs. Never had a problem losing a recoil spring, and it is a simpler setup.
I agree with Sawbones and exactly for the same reasons. I prefer Non-captured guide rod with Wolfe slightly higher powered spring weights. I carry primarily +p ammo. I'll adjust down for ball ammo. Only disadvantage I find is the reassembly is slightly longer/harder, but like anything else the more you do it the better & easier it is.
I've never had a Glock guide rod fail, so I've never felt the need to replace them with an aftermarket option. Here's a couple videos that show durability.
Not a Yeager fan, but the video serves it's purpose. 1000 rounds in 14 minutes. The guide rod melts and shoots out at 4:25, which was somewhere in the mid 900's but the gun keeps running...
And then there's this one...
Last edited by StraitR; 08-19-2015 at 06:54 PM.
No.
#RESIST
No. And for those citing guide rod meltdown, for at least 5 years Glock has replaced the original OEM polymer rod with one made with Zytel; these are noted by a number "1" on the guide rod's flange, underneath the part number. Zytel is a polymer that is notably stiffer and more heat-resistant; reportedly the priary impetus behind it was that there was a Southeastern US LEO who contract specified that their Glocks be capable of 1,000 rounds of sustained fire without degradation or component failure. I'm not quite sure what generated the need for such a requirement, as the last time I checked such sustained fire requirements were normally tasked to crew-served weapons, air or artillery....
Redundant/silly as it might be, it should assuage those of you overly concerned....simply replace your RSA with the updated one. I believe that the change occurred around 2008 or so. At this point, unit armors will likely only have the Zytel ones.
The Zytel RSAs are also reportedly more chip resistant, but the only chipping that normally occurs is when the RSA isn't properly placed in the crescent receptacle cut on the barrel lug.
Best, Jon
Thanks Jon, that's good to know. I've never seen a glock OEM RSA fail (and I've seen a lot of ammo fired in glocks in IPSC competitions), but seen a lot of guide rods chiped in the front end. I don't know the reason why, but it doesn't give me a good feeling.
White sound guide rod seems to have a few unique characteristics that may make it worthwhile, mainly stand-off and the use of a hole that facilitates spring installation. I'm testing a couple:
http://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=796475&CAT=737 YMMV
I recently replaced a guide rod on a Beretta with a much heavier Tungsten one, and noticed much less muzzle rise in recoil. I have seen aftermarket Tungsten rods for Glocks.
Somewhere, I saw a torture test video of a Glock, the guide rod failed, and the pistol kept functioning.
I've replaced guide rods with aftermarket ones twice in the last 15 years
Glock 17 Gen 4 with the screwed up original RSA, replaced it with an aftermarket single spring RSA and used it that way without failures until the factory got it right
CZ P-07 Gen 2, came with a captured 20 lb spring and I wanted to try a lighter one. No choice but to buy a CGW SS guide rod to try aftermarket springs. Right now pistol is still equipped with the CGW non captured steel rod and a Wolff CZ 75 compact 16 lb recoil spring.
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