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Thread: My kingdom for a modern 6-shot .38 snubbie - anyone else?

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    Hoplophilic doc SAWBONES's Avatar
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    Carrying J-frame "snubbies" in .357 Magnum is largely a sort of fantasy, IMNSHO and IME.
    I've shot lots of .357 Magnum loads in any number of J-frame guns.

    Sure, you can shoot .357 Magnum loads in them, but it's neither fun , nor practical, nor fast.

    Many years ago, having gotten older and having tired of long carrying relatively heavy semiautomatic higher capacity pistols, I decided to try carrying just a S&W 340PD as a sort of best balance between a "most easily carried" and "most powerful" sidearm.

    In anticipation of this, and to hopefully choose a "best load", I shot ALL available premium factory .357 Magnum loads in the guns, in bullet weights from 110 to 158 gr.

    As an aside, I'm not "recoil-sensitive".

    I shot a minimum of 20 rounds and a maximum of 50 rounds of each load.

    IME, NONE of the .357 Magnum loads were either particularly consistent nor precise in these little featherweight guns, though I had really hoped to find a "best choice" example in that loading.

    As it turned out, the most accurate and most precise load, in my hands, was the Speer Gold Dot 135gr Short Barrel .38 Special +P 135gr round.

    Well and good, but since I'm less than sanguine about carrying just a 5 shot J-frame revolver as a primary CCW gun nowadays, I simply don't feel confidant that it's my best CCW option (especially given the slow shot-to-shot recovery with shooting .357 Magnum loads in these little guns), and I opt instead for carrying either a Colt 1911 CCO or a Glock 26 for CCW.
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    And while the sun and moon endure, Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
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    I have no hands on experience with Armscor Revolvers. I just throwing this out there. I'm sure someone will say to throw it back at me.

    https://youtu.be/qrY9r4XxKt4

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    I have examined/fired a dozen or so of them at the lab. In my opinion, they are like Tauri revolvers... generally decent product, but one that should be kept as a limited-firing firearm. A stash revolver in the utility room/bathroom/vehicle/etc. would be perfect.

    The reason is, they are not built very sturdily. You want a hardcore shooter? Get a Ruger or a steel-frame S&W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveSigs View Post
    No. Those medium frame (K/L frame) revolvers with 6 shots you speak of are all far too big for pocket carry. About the biggest you can go is a Colt Detective Special (which I have and is no longer made) and a J-frame (5 shots) is the only thing currently made that will work for it (and the Ruger LCR which is the same size as a J-frame and also 5 shots). I'd be looking at carrying it IWB most of the time, and it's not that you can't carry a K/L-frame IWB it's that something smaller (like a Detective Special) would be easier to carry that way and why have it be any bigger than it needs to? I don't need .357, .38+P will do, and in that case, if all you're going to use is .38+P, then all the K/L frames are bigger than they need to be. In other words, I'd like to see a modern version of the Colt Detective Special made, I don't care if it's Colt or S&W who does it.
    Strong disagree on your FAR too big comment - totally depends on the cut of your clothing as I've carried a Model 12 in my front pocket many times in certain pairs of pants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckshot View Post
    Strong disagree on your FAR too big comment - totally depends on the cut of your clothing as I've carried a Model 12 in my front pocket many times in certain pairs of pants.
    Yeah. He also said that the Ruger LCR was the same size as the J frame.

    Wrong again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSP972 View Post
    I have examined/fired a dozen or so of them at the lab. In my opinion, they are like Tauri revolvers... generally decent product, but one that should be kept as a limited-firing firearm. A stash revolver in the utility room/bathroom/vehicle/etc. would be perfect.

    The reason is, they are not built very sturdily. You want a hardcore shooter? Get a Ruger or a steel-frame S&W.

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    Very much agree with this. Fire a box of not-too-hard recoiling .38's through it to find how it shoots; clean it and then set it aside as an emergency gun. My guess is that they will take 500 rounds but I wouldn't bet on 1,000. Still, they are cheap and can serve a useful function.

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