All of that makes sense to me as well. I hope I'm not coming off as biased towards the smith, because that's not my intent. Personally, I stopped shooting my 10/22's when the 15/22 came about, but I'm not using it for anything too serious. If a weapon like the ruger works better than the smith, that wouldn't really surprise me given that the Ruger is a mature, well understood system. The Smith is still pretty new, and is very reasonably priced for what it is. I'm sure some improvements could be made.
Actually, now that I think about it, though my Smith has seen the volume of rds that I mentioned before, at the Appleseed that I shot a 249 at, I was using a TacSol upper on a standard Smith M&P 15 - not a .22. So I recant on my accuracy statement from before. My Smiths have been very accurate, but that Tac Sol definitely has the edge in accuracy. Also worked beautifully.
I love .22's, and so I love this thread. I have quite a few, including CZ's (ridiculous accuracy), Ruger's and Smith's. I also have quite a few conversion kits for Glocks, 1911's, AR's and even Ruger pistols. I mention all this because my last post made me realize that I need to throw a plug in for the Tac Sol stuff. All of mine have been very accurate and as reliable as any .22 I've ever seen. If you don't want to buy a complete gun for whatever reason, their kits are a great way to go. I also use their .22 suppressors and they work great as well. Really ideal for teaching people to shoot with, and I love to squirrel hunt with a suppressed 22. Did I mention that I love 22's?:-)
Sample of only 3 here (mine, a brother has one, and wife has one) but in my experience, they eat domestic produced High Velocity ammo with ridiculous reliability. Seriously, best 22LR semi-auto I've ever seen. Switch to the more sedate standard velocity stuff, or go with some imported ammo, and you are out of the area I've tested them. I did feed mine a brick of Aguila one time, and it ate it fine.
Mine has never been "cleaned," although I have pulled the "bolt group" and lubed it on different occasions. One Winter, every Saturday, my father and I would put 500 rounds (or 525, 550, whatever was in the bulk pack) through mine. That was before I did a real good job of record keeping, but the vast majority of stoppages were failures to fire, with rounds that we couldn't get to fire in any other gun. Dad was really, really impressed with how well it ran.
Any thoughts on a bolt action in 17 hmr? Although the ammo is about 2x as expensive as 22LR, it does have at least twice the range.
I bought my kid a 15-22, but since he is only 2 years old, I'll have plenty of time to break it in for him. That and I suspect, as many others have, I will start him on a bolt action of some sort.