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Thread: Any downsides to 92D spring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    as I understand it, the E1 hammers had ignition problems, and were switched out by Beretta.
    Is this something That affected all E1s or just E1s with D springs?

    Did Beretta switch them out at the factory?

    When I purchased my E1 way back in 2000 I put in a Wolf "reduced power" mainspring that I thought was their equivalent of a D spring and fired thousands and thousands of rounds with no issues. I later realized that the Wolf mainspring was still heavier than a D spring and replaced it with a Beretta D spring. I then had my first ever light primer strike. It has only been one in 500 rounds or so, but it has made me wonder?

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    Damn, I just put an elite hammer in my M9.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    as I understand it, the E1 hammers had ignition problems, and were switched out by Beretta.
    What I am curious to know is which one's heavier, E1 or EII?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YVK View Post
    What I am curious to know is which one's heavier, E1 or EII?
    I seem to recall Todd saying that the E1 hammer was too light, so I assume that means the E2 is heavier.

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    That will go along with Bill Wilson's findings of heavier hammer hitting harder. Of course, hammer mass alone is a part of the story; velocity is another. Assuming same spring rate, heavier hammer will move slower.

    Anyway, I have zero reservations carrying Elite II/D hammer with D spring. If time ever permits, I'll play with 13-15 mainsprings and standard hammer.

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    I have a wolf 13# in my M9 and have put about 2000 rounds in it since putting it in. Two light primer strikes, one with Tula and one with a handload. They both happened the first time I shot it after the switch. Nothing since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    I have seen more light strikes in the last year, with Aguila and PMC, through a variety of pistols that are reliable, than I am accustomed to seeing. Makes me wonder whether they have been pumping out ammo like crazy, and something may be slipping.
    I've also had issues with PMC and a Sig 226 over the last year. I had never had any problems with any ammo with that pistol before, but I increased the weight of the mainspring by one pound, which seem to fix the issue. My impression is that PMC is now using a harder primer, but that is only an impression. I've always had a very occasional issue with Aguila (especially the .45 ammo), but I've chalked that up to slightly greater variability due to laxer manufacturing standards, and given the low cost I figure that is an acceptable trade off.

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