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    By inclusive do you mean allow them to shoot their 1911's? Sure, go ahead. But don't bother with PF.
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    I think Major scoring is a total relic of terminal ballistics thought in 1976 and is pretty asinine at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrigamiAK View Post
    I think Major scoring is a total relic of terminal ballistics thought in 1976 and is pretty asinine at this point.
    I agree. Even allowing major 9 in Limited would be nice...
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    Cody,

    If you believe even a little that IDPA is defensive training, you should not avoid about stages that include running - even a lot of running. If it were real, (you're training, right?), running away might be your best option in many situations.

    Your finger scenario B seems to tolerate poor/unsafe gun handling.

    Chief in my list of IDPA rule dislikes: EMPTY magazine retention. If the rule is about real world tactics, then we should all be required to carry loose rounds in our pockets (and maybe a loading aid) to reload those precious magazines once we reach cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrigamiAK View Post
    I think Major scoring is a total relic of terminal ballistics thought in 1976 and is pretty asinine at this point.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Riehl View Post
    Why?
    A marginal hit with a 45 ACP is just as worthless as one with a 9 mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha Sierra View Post
    A marginal hit with a 45 ACP is just as worthless as one with a 9 mm.
    But its a game. This argument would hold more weight if the score zones better matched anatomy.

    That's like saying a TR3 should run in CanAm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha Sierra View Post
    A marginal hit with a 45 ACP is just as worthless as one with a 9 mm.
    Beware the danger of unintended consequences.

    If PF were to be removed, an incentive to shoot more powerful rounds would be removed with it. If every caliber is to be scored equally , then folks will show up on game day with high capacity long barrel .22LRs and FN 5-7s , ammo loaded to the smallest standard capable of cycling the pistol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Riehl View Post
    Why?
    I don't at all dispute that there is a difference between 9mm and .45ACP. I do think the difference is far less than is reflected in USPSA's Major vs. Minor scoring scheme though, where B/C hits are 4 vs. 3 points, and a D is 2 vs. 1 point. That's a 25% or 50% difference for non-A zone hits.

    I personally think the difference would be reflected accurately enough by the bigger bullet hitting a more valuable scoring zone a bit more often simply by virtue of being bigger.

    Maybe I wrong, but that's why I think that.
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    Honestly I have no issues with USPSA rules. Including hit factor scoring.

    Matches with too many hoser stages annoy me. I like some hard shots. Matches without good reload points for production annoy me, as they are typically again hoser stages (high road count with limited movement).

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