PASS: Premier Action Shooting Sports Announced

[Alpha Sierra]

TSA = Tactical Shooting Association, set up to promote the D.R. Middlebrooks style of shooting. Not connected with the present Bureau of Shoe Inspectors.

IDSA = International Defensive Shooting Association, a Dallas project of a number of years ago.

Ah, OK, thanks for the explanation.

Bureau of Shoe Inspectors......LOL

[jetfire]

Running a successful shooting league takes a lot more than passionate shooters. That's why a lot of these other leagues, TSA, ACEs, USCA, have all largely failed to make a nationwide splash. 3-Gun Nation has succeeded as a league because the people in charge are good at business and focused on making a good product that appeals to sponsors, which means they can deliver good rewards to shooters.

[premieractionshooting]

Hey folks, I'm the founder and President of PASS. I am a little late to this party, but wanted to wade in on a few issues. For those of you who have posted positive comments.......THANKS! For thos of you who voiced their displeasure, thank you too! I learn more ways to make things better from folks who aren't exactly thrilled with our product than those who like it.

The whole premise of this sport is to remove subjective rulings and calls. If the midline rule or the noticeable bulge rule get abused, they will be re-worded, clarified, and/or axed. The rules exist to prevent things like appendix carry, but it was difficult to put in a black/white rule without getting nitty.

As for the stock photos............I don't care for them either! As you can (hopefully) tell, we spent quite a bit to have a website designed that would appeal to people not currently involved in the shooting sports. Companies that know a lot about website design don't know squat about competitive shooting. The first pictures that they tried to use were way worse than what we have up now. If this sport catches on (things are looking pretty good in Texas and throughout the South), we will be changing those pictures soon.

I'm well aware of TSA and IDSA. I hope that I have learned a little something from their misfortunes. 3GN has a definite advantage in the sponsorship department BECAUSE they use three guns. With competitors using shotguns, rifles, optics, pistols, ect. they have a much wider base of potential sponsors than a pistol sport does. My business partner (my wife, who has an MBA) and I have learned quite a bit from the failure of those other sports as well as the success of 3GN.

We know that there will always be things in the rules that some people don't care for, but our goal is to be as responsive as we can to what shooters want. Prior to launching, we spent a considerable amount of time running test matches and we adjusted the rules to fit what shooters were telling us they liked and didn't like. Some of the rules that I liked when I first wrote the rule book got axed because shooters didn't like some of the things we did. The end result is a sport that really is pretty darn fun!

All we are asking right now is for folks to try it, we think you'll enjoy it.

I'll check back occasionally to see if folks have questions for me. If you want to ask me questions about ANYTHING, try the "contact us" tab on our website.

[Maple Syrup Actual]

Given how many pages are using it, I can only assume it's a stock photo:

• http://jtfcanada.com/why-us/
• http://personalprotectioninstitute.net/about.html
• http://flisb.com/istaw/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/c.png

I realize stock photos are an almost universally accepted element of web-design these days (my own company uses plenty), but it drives me nuts.

Don't get me wrong: I understand it makes way more economic sense to purchase a stock photo for a few bucks, rather than spend an order of magnitude more on a photo shoot.

But in cases like this photo, it almost borders on false advertising. I'm not saying this is what PASS is doing, but I could toss up a flashy website overnight for Byron's Awesome League of Legendary Shooting. The league might only exist in my head, but on my website there are tons of stock photos of shooters on the line, action shooting, etc. Someone finds my site, sees the images, and says, "Hey, this BALLS organization really looks like they're putting together great events!"

So how could I get in touch with your BALLS? I'm not looking for a huge commitment here...just a quick chance to feel it out and see how I enjoy the experience.

[Mr_White]

All we are asking right now is for folks to try it, we think you'll enjoy it.

For me, that's not going to happen unless I can compete as I carry and that means appendix. Why do you prohibit it?

[orionz06]

All we are asking right now is for folks to try it, we think you'll enjoy it.

There seems to be a solid list here as to why that won't happen. I would love to hear reasoning on some of the things.

[Kyle Reese]

For me, that's not going to happen unless I can compete as I carry and that means appendix.

Same here.

[Alpha Sierra]

All we are asking right now is for folks to try it, we think you'll enjoy it.

After several years of shooting IDPA, I've come to the conclusion that I want my shooting sports to be just that: sports. I don't want training. I don't want real life-inspired scenarios. I don't want to be told I have to shoot it this way or that way. I don't want to be told I have to use concealment. I want just sport, with zero pretensions of "real life", "training", or "practicality".

[Mr_White]

After several years of shooting IDPA, I've come to the conclusion that I want my shooting sports to be just that: sports. I don't want training. I don't want real life-inspired scenarios. I don't want to be told I have to shoot it this way or that way. I don't want to be told I have to use concealment. I want just sport, with zero pretensions of "real life", "training", or "practicality".

I love how wide open USPSA is on all that. I appreciate that you and i could shoot the same match under the same set of rules with our different approaches. For that matter, so could someone who wanted to use "tactics."

[Trooper224]

So how could I get in touch with your BALLS? I'm not looking for a huge commitment here...just a quick chance to feel it out and see how I enjoy the experience.

Oh my.