If you wouldn't shoot a 250 lb hog with it, why would you shoot a 250 lb hog rider with it?Originally Posted by Wayne Dobbs
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If you wouldn't shoot a 250 lb hog with it, why would you shoot a 250 lb hog rider with it?
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I ride a hog John why you got to shoot me?
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Makes sense when you put it that way.
I have generally been under the impression that animals are tougher than humans, pound for pound. Not sure where I got that idea from so it seems like it's ripe for questioning. Maybe I was thinking of the fact that humans are domesticated and probably not as tough as wild animals.
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There is a difference between hunting an animal and defending against an animal attack. Hunting, you need to kill the animal, and ideally without the animal running off for miles. To defend against an animal attack, you just need to make the animal leave you alone. That might range from a warning shot, to any hit, to actually having to either hit the upper CNS or break down the animal's ability to ambulate.
Over the longest running study of bear attacks, handguns do even slightly better than long guns in repelling a bear attack. This underscores the difference between stopping an attack and killing the animal, because we know handguns are not ideal bear killing firearms.
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Very interesting. Thanks for that tidbit.
What I find even more interesting, is the handguns used are not .44 magnum/.454 class handguns, but .357, .45, .40, 9mm and a bunch of calibers I don't associate with bear defense. Now, if the requirement was to KILL the bear, right there, the statistics would look a lot different for handguns (and long guns), and there would be much worse odds of surviving a bear attack regardless of handgun, rifle or shotgun choice.
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Do you think it's shot placement with the handguns that accounts for the slight edge?
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Not at all. Handguns make shot placement harder, compared to a long gun.
I am just heading out flying, but later I will try to post the link to the study for folks to read and form their own conclusions. My take is bears don't like to be shot, and a bear that doesn't like to be shot doesn't differentiate between a little bullets and big bullets. Also, handguns are easier to deploy when you are rolling around, and often are easier to fire quick follow-up shots compared to bolt action rifles and pump shotguns.
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All thus fuss about calibers and bullets ..... get you some bear spray and call it good.
http://www.polarbearsinternational.o..._23_07_utc.pdf
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