Ebola

[farscott]

From a BBC article: The charts of deaths in the highly impacted African countries show that the outbreak is no way close to containment. The graphs approximate an exponential increase in deaths from the disease. There are some caveats as the counts include "confirmed, probable, and suspected", but the trend line is not encouraging. With our highly mobile Western society and the very limited number of medical facilities both capable and trained to handle this type of issue, I suspect the outbreak will be harder to contain in the USA than the CDC has predicted. After all, the initial response in Dallas was as expected: people defaulted to the level of training.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29587803

[DonW]

If confirmed, this is the first known transmission of Ebola on US soil.

If you ignore the monkey to monkey infections during the Virginia 1989 ebola-reston outbreak.

Ebola Reston Outbreaks, web.stanford.edu/

How a Virginia suburb became an Ebola epicenter, foxnews.com/

[shane45]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

[Glenn E. Meyer]

All these proclamations of safety are based on the idea of almost perfect human performance in taking precautions and following procedures. What discipline of behavioral science has found that to be true?

In the case of Duncan's family, they broke isolation protocol. The NBC crew also broke isolation protocol.l Duncan lied to get into the USA.

Also the arguments against limiting air travel are based on false premises, they seem to insist that we would have a total ban including sending health workers to the stricken countries. The reasonable option is to ban non-essential and vetted travel. No coming here or going there for grandma's birthday or seeing your girlfriend. The idea that reducing the probability of infected folks moving around would be useful is being ignored for political reasons.

As a colleague said - when you hear to stay calm and it won't spread is when the zombie horde comes over the hill. I did opine that you antigun wussies will be the first to go! We get along and laughed. She wants to go to the range.

[JLM]

Download the free Ebola Toolbox.

"Lucille Blumberg, Delia Enria and Daniel Bausch, Eds.: Elsevier, (2014)

The latest clinical information about the epidemiology, diagnosis and treatment of viral haemorrhagic fevers, published in the well-known medical textbook ‘Manson’s Tropical Diseases’, has been made freely available by the publisher. The chapter is aimed at doctors around the world treating patients with all types of viral haemorrhagic fevers. These include Ebola, Margburg fever, Lassa fever, Lujo haemorrhagic fever, South American haemorrhagic fevers and Bunyavirus diseases including Rift Valley fever and Crimean-Congo haemorrhagic fever. Reproduced from: Farrar J et al. Manson’s Tropical Diseases. 23rd edn. Elsevier; 2014. Chapter 16: Blumberg L et al. Viral Haemorrhagic Fevers. pp. 171-94. © 2014, with permission from Elsevier. ISBN 978-0-7020-5102-9"

http://www.medbox.org/ebola-toolbox/...evers/preview?

[GardoneVT]

All these proclamations of safety are based on the idea of almost perfect human performance in taking precautions and following procedures. What discipline of behavioral science has found that to be true?

In the case of Duncan's family, they broke isolation protocol. The NBC crew also broke isolation protocol.l Duncan lied to get into the USA.

Also the arguments against limiting air travel are based on false premises, they seem to insist that we would have a total ban including sending health workers to the stricken countries. The reasonable option is to ban non-essential and vetted travel. No coming here or going there for grandma's birthday or seeing your girlfriend. The idea that reducing the probability of infected folks moving around would be useful is being ignored for political reasons.

As a colleague said - when you hear to stay calm and it won't spread is when the zombie horde comes over the hill. I did opine that you antigun wussies will be the first to go! We get along and laughed. She wants to go to the range.

Is it even possible to reduce or restrict travel ,sociologiclly speaking? Think about it. If one is dying from a fatal disease, that individual will be *very* motivated to lie and or evade controls to see their family one last time. Why not, from their perspective the resulting outbreak will be someone else's problem. The more restrictions are enacted, the more motivated people will be to dodge them. I can think back to people in the military who routinely violated 'off limits establishments' regs for kicks.

IMO,the Administration is taking the right step here. You cannot restrict what cannot be controlled, and the tighter international movement is locked down, the more morivated people will be in general to flout the restrictions.

[5pins]

People will also lie to get better medical care. Think about it, if you’re in West Africa and think you have Ebola and have a chance to get to the US, what would you do? Stay and get little or no care or go to the one place with the best medical care in the world.

[jetfire]

People will also lie to get better medical care. Think about it, if you’re in West Africa and think you have Ebola and have a chance to get to the US, what would you do? Stay and get little or no care or go to the one place with the best medical care in the world.

Which is basically why we have Ebola on our shores now, when you think about it.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

I would disagree that travel cannot be vetted. Even if folks try to circumvent travel bans, cutting down some potential risks reduces the probability of infected persons coming here. Duncan would not have been allowed in for his casual travel reason. If casual travel is permitted, then I agree folks will lie about their health state and exposure.

[TGS]

So, since you guys obviously aren't getting it, please review the newer screening procedures being implemented at major ports of entry.