Israeli point shooting method?

[Mr_White]

There is no shooting on the move.

My instructor told us that what we were taught in one day, the core of the method, is a two week block of instruction in Israel. I infer that there is a LOT of drilling of individual and small blocks of technique and segments of technique involved.

No shooting on the move in a two week block of instruction?!?!??!?!?!?!?!

Shooting on the move seems to me like a pretty important skill.

[Kyle Reese]

No shooting on the move in a two week block of instruction?!?!??!?!?!?!?!

Shooting on the move seems to me like a pretty important skill.

You don't say.

[Mr_White]

You don't say.

No, no, I do say, I really think so.

I heart shooting on the move!

[HopetonBrown]

I read somewhere that Paul Howe said he never shot on the move.

[Mr_White]

I remember reading of Howe's preference for move-plant-shoot, but don't remember it being 'never shoot on the move.' Maybe someone who has trained with him directly can clarify.

I still heart shooting on the move and personally consider it an indispensable skill.

[Drang]

Anyone have any exposure to the Army's "Quick Kill" training from the 70s?

[Mr_White]

Paging Brownie...

[KevinB]

First, let me make it clear that the shooting method has nothing to do with chamberless carry and does not require it. Tier One units in Israel load a round up. My understanding is that some civilian schools are teaching condition one as well..

FYSA - Israel has no accepted Tier1 entity. There are 6 Internationally (peer) accepted Tier1 entities - 2 of those SMU's reside in the US, 1 in Australia, 1 in UK, 1 in Canada and 1 in Germany.

[KevinB]

I read somewhere that Paul Howe said he never shot on the move.

He prefers not to for HR type precision accuracy.

[Kevin B.]

Anyone have any exposure to the Army's "Quick Kill" training from the 70s?

A few years back my boss sent me to James Rutland's School. Mr. Rutland learned the "Quick Kill" system from Lucky McDaniel.

I was able to make some fairly impressive shots using the "Quick Kill" methodology using a BB gun (shooting wadded up tissue out of the center of a washer thrown in the air; hitting a quarter and then a dime thrown in the air- I still have them somewhere).

Unfortunately, once we moved to the rimfire range for a more practical application of the "Quick Kill" technique, I had no problem delivering considerably better accuracy at greater speed using contemporary sighting techniques.

In the interest of giving "Quick Kill" a fair assessment, I subsequently used it to engage targets with an M-4 sans sights/optics on a moving target range. Once again, contemporary sighting techniques yielded substantially superior performance.

In all fairness to Mr.Rutland, I thought his program was well-structured and the presentation was very professional. I just did not find the techniques taught to be superior, in any regard, to using the sights.