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My sons now have all Gen 4s with minus connectors and they turn out pretty well. I think we're talking about 9-10 guns total.
Now understand their standard like mine is to just get a not overly heavy Glock trigger and forget about it and concentrate on shooting fundamentals. I don't worry about overtravel or force of the resest vs standard connectors. It's short enough and strong enough so just shoot them is the thing.
Some feel a little better than others but close enough for really good shooting. The only one I've had the opportunity to weigh on my new scales is an early Gen 4 G19 (early summer 2010) that is superb and it's trigger actually weighed right at 5 lbs repeatedly - lighter than my Gen 3's with a minus. That's counter intuitive. It has been shot a good bit - around 5K rds I'd guess, he's not updating my logs.
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I typically run Glock OEM "-" connectors in all my glock 3rd and 4th gens. The 4th gen all get 3rd gen trigger bars. I have been using the Glock OEM "." connector in one of my 4th gen G19s lately, and I like it. A tad heavier than the "-" connector, not as heavy as the factory connector, but it doesn't have the roll that the "-" connectors has. After a few more range trips I may switch all my "-" connectors to "."
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For eight years I've run stock triggers in my Glocks, with the sole exception of an OEM NY1 plus 3.5# connector setup in my one Gen3 19.
I recently decided to try an aftermarket trigger and installed the GlockTriggers Vogel in my Gen4 19. It comes with a 4#, 4.5# and 5# spring; I initially installed the 4# and things were pretty good. I got a couple of light strikes on some reman ammo but then a whole slew on some Wolf - I'm the first to acknowledge that this is more the ammo than the trigger. I swapped to the 4.5# spring and Wolf ran much better but more importantly (to me) the trigger characteristics improved. I just bought a Gen4 34 and immediately installed a Vogel trigger with the 4.5# spring.
Is it worth it? Eh, this stuff all costs money. I put a trigger in my AR that costs $100 more than my Vogel Glock trigger, and I'll argue vociferously that an aftermarket trigger is way more beneficial on a pistol than a carbine.
It's all good.
I recently sold my Gen4 34 to a friend. It came with THE worst factory trigger I have ever felt. The break was easily 2X heavier than my Gen4 19. Took a dremel to the trigger bar multiple times before finally installing a Vogel kit (Gen 4 trigger bar). Tried running the 5# striker spring but had issues with light strikes. Put the factory striker spring back in. The break was much improved with the Vogel kit. I think my factory trigger bar was just way out of whack.
Replaced it with a USA made Gen 3 17. Put a Glock "-" connector in it and I'm calling it good. Figure it will break in nicely in a couple thousand rounds.
Last edited by MSparks909; 08-19-2014 at 09:21 PM.
Honestly the factory setup in my Gen4 34 didn't feel bad. But the Vogel trigger with the 4.5# spring felt like the 3.5#/NY1 after smoking some chiba and getting a massage.
I have the Vogel in my G23C. What it really seems to do, and quite well, is bring together one drilled tiny hole, a tiny screw, a Glock minus connector, four Wolf springs, and a 25 cent polish job, all for $150 plus freight.
While it feels good, I cannot tell any difference between a home job and this expensive kit except the over travel adjustment.
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