You've got my support from ILOriginally Posted by Shenaniguns
Hey if we can get stupid laws knocked down anybody can. And hopefully with the ousting of that one Leland Yee guy up there who has a hard time practicing what he preaches, you guys can have a little momentum.
Back on topic. I had a Glock 21 that didn't show any significant problems with the supply of 10 round mags it came with. One of my favorite handguns no less. Cheers! Keep up the fight for your rights CA!
Thanks, I appreciate the support! With Smith, Ruger and the NRA fighting the roster I think we'll win eventually.
I live in a Socialist state. In New York, we can't have magazines over 10 rounds (pre-ban or not), and we have an assault weapon ban, which among other things, bans handguns over 50oz and/or with threaded barrels. Rifles are illegal if they are semi-auto, accept a detachable mag, and have just one of the evil cosmetic features, of which the pistol grip is one.
Many people use ingenuity to either make their ARs essentially bolt-action, or to permanently fix a magazine in there so no longer has a detachable mag. Beyond that, you can shoot for a Frankengun which does not have a pistol grip or collapsible stock or muzzle device. These things all potentially remove the assault weapon status, but nothing is certain until someone gets arrested with a modded-rifle and a ruling is made.
Having lived here for my entire life, I carry a P2000sk (10+1) or a Walther PPS (7+1), both in 9mm. I have an HK45 for home defense pistol (10+1). And I use a 12 gauge 870 (6 in the tube, 6 on the side saddle) as a primary HD weapon. I have bolt action rifles as well. A lot of people carry guns normally able to hold more than 10, with reduced capacity mags. I can't deal with the inefficiency of such an arrangement, so as you can tell from the above, I purchase guns that one way or another, are designed to hold 10 or less in the mag.
I used to have an AR but have basically opted out of the "do I want to be the test case with these modifications" game. I sold it for an $1,100 profit before the legislation passed. I have an assembled lower I am kind of sitting on. Yesterday I sold my Ruger 22/45 Lite, a .22LR target pistol which is an evil "assault pistol" because it has a threaded barrel. I refuse to grind off the threads or epoxy the thread protector on to an otherwise perfectly functional gun.
To answer the question generally, I think .45ACP is a lot more popular here because of its size-inefficiency (which, ironically, becomes a benefit). I don't think very many people are using ARs for HD. Even without the AWB, I would still use an 870, but that gets into a different conversation entirely.
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What rifle is that?
Is it actually fed with AR mags, or are those in the picture for size comparison?
That's a fascinating innovation. I hope it proves to be reliable.
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My solution to the ban state woes is to recommend folks to move...
I'd recommend to all the gun owning Californians to come to Virginia - as we need to get a few folks out of office that want to make this a ban state.
Also since California will someday soon fall into the ocean - the advantage on you not being there when it happens.
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I found that picture in the gallery at Superior Firearms: http://www.superiorfirearmsllc.com/
He has posted some of his work over at M4c.
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Hell I`d feel fine with this set up here in SWF.
Would be nice to have a 18inch 12GA if Ca allows them.
Man I'm glad I don't live there.
There are MANY states that are much worse than California - believe or not. NJ, NY, IL, MA just to name a few.
All legal in CA:
It's not a difficult (or illegal) as many posters are making it out to seem. Yes, with current magazine restrictions a .45ACP semi auto (read: M&P45) makes a lot of sense.
If not me, then who?
I would contest that.
First, IL doesn't even have a state AWB, mag cap limit, registration, ect.
Also, in NJ I can buy everything you posted, and without any bullet buttons. We have a roster of specifically banned rifles, but it is fairly limited concerning the state courts have ruled it overly vague....i.e. the HK91 is banned, but the PTR 91 or any other clone isn't. Otherwise, the gun shelves here are just as stocked with evil black rifles and shotguns of every variety as any other state. With the exception of NFA items, the only thing you're really losing out in NJ are stupid AR15/AK pistols and the Vepr-12.
Not that we're in an arms market haven here, but I think you've got just as much misinformation about various states' laws as the other posters you've commented on. Like I've said for a while now, gun owners in these states are more restrictive on themselves out of misinformation and ignorance than the actual governments are.
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I agree. I live in CA, and I'm a California LEO. With the recent enactment of the micro stamping law and the virtually assured passage of the ban on single shot exemptions starting next year, CA has effectively banned all new handgun sales in the state. I can only hope we prevail in the sure to come litigation.
That being said, single shot exempt an HK45 and an HK45c while you still can. As far as long guns go, get an M1A or equivalent, along with a decent shotgun and call it a day. Move away as soon as you retire or before if possible.
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