Even for folks who live in pro-issuance counties, reform is still a good thing.
As things stand now, should an anti gun Sheriff get elected in your county, your CCW days will come to a screetching halt with no effective recourse. If I recall that's basically what happened to Orange County before the recent policy reversal after Peruta.
The Minority Marksman.
"When you meet a swordsman, draw your sword: Do not recite poetry to one who is not a poet."
-a Ch'an Buddhist axiom.
It depends, visiting or living in the state.
For Califorina the laws require multiplied flow charts and a "shade tree" law degree if you want to push the envelope.
Out of staters Visiting CA for HG, bring whatever normal handgun, but leave the 10+ round mags at home and you wont be able to carry and need to have it locked in a secure container while traveling. (Those that resided, pre 2000, have mag options but probably know that.)
Out of staters visiting CA for rifle, go to Calguns and be confused at first. You can get more than you think but can bring a semi auto but the rifle won't either be pretty "featureless" or it will increase your manipulation time "mag lock".
If you want no questions asked by law enforcement for the most part on your semi auto rifle with detachable mag, ie no AR or AK, you will be limited to for Benelli MR1 with comfortech (AR Mags), Kel Tec SU 16 (AR Mags), Mini 14, M1A/14 type with no FH, V grips, etc... None are that appealing.
I think this is an Anti gun pic from NY newspaper whining about loopholes but same theory here in CA.
http://nomorecocktails.com/images/Bennelli.jpg
They tried to ban all semi auto rifles last year in CA but got vetoed.
If you want to be safe in the future if they get their ban, live or travel, pretend you are Clint Eastwood w/M1 Garand and 1911 are GTG.
Last edited by Doug; 04-19-2014 at 12:02 PM.
Or just run a normal looking AR with a Bullet Button and 10 round magazine so it doesn't look retarded:
Even my "basic" AR looks ok:
It affects them a bunch, but you already know that. But since they are range toys or at worst a SHTF gun it's something I've learned to deal with.
My HD gun is a G17 with 23 rounds before I need to reload and is in the same configuration as the rest of the free states. Reloads with it is fantastic.
No, I wasn't being sarcastic at all. I've never used one, and I'm wondering what kind of work-arounds folks have done, what with necessity being a mother, and all.
How hard it it to manipulate? Is it worth carrying a dummy 5.56 round in a loop on the inside of your off-hand wrist, in a manner similar to the wrist cartridge carriers used by Contender/Encore or double rifle shooters?
I posted before i saw this.
Yes, there are a lot of work arounds that people have made. One that i particularly like is a dummy 5.56 round on a retractable keychain that clips to your clothes. grab the bullet, press the button, let go (it zips back in) and reload.
the reality is, unless you have a gun equipped with a MMG so you have drop mags -OR- have a registered assault weapon, most people don't use AR pattern rifles for defense because it's not logical.
If not me, then who?
My bad, we Californian's get so much shit over it we tend to see snark when it isn't always there. I haven't looked for a fast way to disengage it but there are plenty of methods out there from rings to protruding mag bases. There are some classes are tailored around bullet button guns but I don't feel like wasting my money on one. If I'm going to train it will be around marksmanship or defensive uses with a handgun since that's what I carry and mainly use in my home with my living situation. If I ever move from here again, I may take a tactical fantasy camp for the hell of it.