Witnessed Model 1911 600yd shot

[BLR]

At what juncture is "a gun" not the same gun it was from the factory? Or are they like my dad's old axe that's had 3 new handles and two heads, but it's still the same axe.

I mean, replacing the frame is a pretty obvious one, but what about barrels and slides?

Good point.

[JAD]

Some folks definition of "not long ago" is skewed by their age. My 72 year old dad is an example.

Well I /am/ an old man, and my first car -- a '62 Galaxie 500 -- was purchased gently used with 102k miles on it. I put another 80k on it before the frame rusted through, but the engine and tranny were as original. Ditto my second car, a '69 Beetle, which I owned in the mileage span of 120k to 160k.

I recently bought a case of primers for more than those two cars cost me combined.

[Tamara]

Well I /am/ an old man, and my first car -- a '62 Galaxie 500 -- was purchased gently used with 102k miles on it. I put another 80k on it before the frame rusted through, but the engine and tranny were as original. Ditto my second car, a '69 Beetle, which I owned in the mileage span of 120k to 160k.

I hate taking the turn down the road to threadjack, but it was well within my memory that a domestic car with 100k on the clock was generally considered "used up". Heck, Detroit didn't start adding a sixth digit to the left of the decimal on their odometers until the mid-to-late '80s (Pontiac wanted to seem European.)

Sure, you could do a lot better with a well-maintained example, but most weren't. Heck, the term "planned obsolescence" originated with Detroit.

[JSGlock34]

At what juncture is "a gun" not the same gun it was from the factory? Or are they like my dad's old axe that's had 3 new handles and two heads, but it's still the same axe.

I mean, replacing the frame is a pretty obvious one, but what about barrels and slides?

Exactly my point about the AR15. What's the standard to apply? Is it once we've exceeded user level parts replacement? Armorer level? Depot/Manufacturer level?

[TGS]

Exactly my point about the AR15. What's the standard to apply? Is it once we've exceeded user level parts replacement? Armorer level? Depot/Manufacturer level?

With the AR15, I don't think there can be a standard. It's a big kid's lego set. So many of them are built from parts. When people ask me what AR15 I have, I'm sort of dumbfounded. Is it a Rainier Arms because the lower was bought from Rainier? Legally, yes, but that's only one part of many, and not even the part that matters on an AR15 for performance or reliability. So is it a BCM because of the upper? What about when I replace the barrel with an Afghan, should I just call it a Noveske at that point?

So, I usually just say, "It's a frankengun."

[Magic_Salad0892]

In fact, aside from the near lack of rifling, the loss of Armory Kote, and the beat to shit mag well - this gun might as well be brand new....at basically 66,000 rounds. If I sand blasted it, then re-sprayed it, put it together with the new barrel, I'd put my lunch money on it being indistinguishable from new.

Would you say the same would be true if it had been a .45ACP?

[BLR]

I wouldn't expect a properly sprung 10mm to be different.

The 1911 frame has massive buffering capacity. As does the slide. And the gun has huge locking surface area.

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