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Thread: 9mm ammo, 147gr Gold Dot vs HST?

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    I like the Barnes bullet better for short barreled 9mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symmetry View Post
    The bullet is the same. Short barrel uses a faster burning powder to get the pressure high enough for adequate velocity out of a shorter barrel.
    Whats funny I read a article by Speer saying its a different bullet by design. Also stated it had a deeper HP.

    I may of read it at the ATK website. I look it up. but no doubt the performance is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock17JHP View Post
    I can feel more recoil (and see more flash) with the standard pressure Federal HST 147 grain JHP load compared to the Winchester Ranger 147 grain JHP load. For that reason I prefer the Ranger load, and think I would like the +P version of the HST even less in terms of 'shootability'. I know for many the differences I am describing are not very noticeable, perhaps I am like the Princess and the pea... I guess I will stick with the Ranger RA9T load.
    In my P30S I don't care for the felt recoil of the 147gr loads at all. I think Ranger 147T is loaded under 1000fps. HST147 ATK specs state 1050fps last I knew.

    Might try federal tactical 124 gr bonded ! Its a standard pressure load. (Be aware it is listed at a few websites as a 124 +P )

    The 124 standard pressure loads in my P30S make for soft shooting and fast recover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    In my P30S I don't care for the felt recoil of the 147gr loads at all. I think Ranger 147T is loaded under 1000fps. HST147 ATK specs state 1050fps last I knew.

    Might try federal tactical 124 gr bonded ! Its a standard pressure load. (Be aware it is listed at a few websites as a 124 +P )

    The 124 standard pressure loads in my P30S make for soft shooting and fast recover.
    You might need to consider moving to a different platform. The two things I don't like about the P30 is that the slide release interferes with thumbs forward grip, and it is much more jumpy compared to other pistol designs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symmetry View Post
    You might need to consider moving to a different platform. The two things I don't like about the P30 is that the slide release interferes with thumbs forward grip, and it is much more jumpy compared to other pistol designs.
    You are 100% right!!

    My Gut said to buy a P226R in 9mm! But with all the love for the P30 here . I took a chance on it.


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    I've been told the P226R 9mm is softer shooting when compared to the P30 9mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Whats funny I read a article by Speer saying its a different bullet by design. Also stated it had a deeper HP.

    I may of read it at the ATK website. I look it up. but no doubt the performance is different.
    UPDATE
    I went back to the ATK website and click on SB Gold Dot There Speer goes on to tell about the changes made. Who know maybe they lie.

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    All the loads EXCEPT the 9 mm 124 gr +P are different; that one is identical because it worked as is and did not need modifications.
    Facts matter...Feelings Can Lie

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    I run Federal HST 147 gr in my 9mm's, great round and performance IMO.

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    Both are good loads. I carry 147gr Ranger Bonded but wouldn't think twice about carry either load mentioned, the Ranger's were just available in bulk when I needed to restock on carry ammo.

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    Did they ever clear up the hard primer issues with the Ranger Bonded? Was the PDX1 also affected by that?

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