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Thread: 9mm ammo, 147gr Gold Dot vs HST?

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    Winchester Ranger 147 grain JHP (RA9T) was not mentioned... but I prefer that in my Glock 19. Of the 2 loads you are trying to decide between, I would definitely go for the Federal HST 147 grain JHP.

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    FWIW, My "nightstand" gun is a P30s with a Tirant-9 and from the small amount of JHP i have shot through the can I know for fact that 147 Gold Dot can & will go supersonic out of my setup. That being said it may not have the time and distance to do so at HD/SD distances.
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    That's interesting about it not being sub-sonic...hmmm.

    So here's where I'm at: I've looked around and cannot find 147 HST, even in EE's on forums, gunbroker, etc. Also, even if I did find some, I would not pay the $50/box price the secondary market seems to be demanding right now. Thus, I'm left with the following 3 choices. All are in-stock currently and all are on Doc's list. Between these three, and pros/cons?

    -50 round box - 9mm Winchester Ranger ZQ4364 147 grain Bonded Hollow Point Ammo, $25.95/ea
    -CCI Speer 9mm 147 Grain Gold Dot Hollow Point - 50 Rounds per Box, $31.97/ea
    -Remington 9mm Golden Saber 147 Grain Brass JHP GS9MMC Ammo - 25 Rounds per Box, $15.47/ea, or $30.94/50 to make it an equal comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASH556 View Post
    That's interesting about it not being sub-sonic...hmmm.

    So here's where I'm at: I've looked around and cannot find 147 HST, even in EE's on forums, gunbroker, etc. Also, even if I did find some, I would not pay the $50/box price the secondary market seems to be demanding right now. Thus, I'm left with the following 3 choices. All are in-stock currently and all are on Doc's list. Between these three, and pros/cons?

    -50 round box - 9mm Winchester Ranger ZQ4364 147 grain Bonded Hollow Point Ammo, $25.95/ea
    -CCI Speer 9mm 147 Grain Gold Dot Hollow Point - 50 Rounds per Box, $31.97/ea
    -Remington 9mm Golden Saber 147 Grain Brass JHP GS9MMC Ammo - 25 Rounds per Box, $15.47/ea, or $30.94/50 to make it an equal comparison.
    I bought 200 rounds of exactly what you're looking for here, $30 per box of 50.

    http://www.rareammo.com/federal-prem...cal-hp-50-rnds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will_H View Post
    I bought 200 rounds of exactly what you're looking for here, $30 per box of 50.

    http://www.rareammo.com/federal-prem...cal-hp-50-rnds
    Dude, nice! Thank you! They only had 2 boxes in-stock, but I was able to get both. Thanks again!

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    I have 2 more boxes of 147 gr I can send you, if you need. I've got plenty of 124gr HST, and that's what I prefer to carry. PM me if you're interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will_H View Post
    I have 2 more boxes of 147 gr I can send you, if you need. I've got plenty of 124gr HST, and that's what I prefer to carry. PM me if you're interested.
    PM sent.

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    Is there a reason to prefer the P9HST4 over the P9HST2?
    50 FPS more at the muzzle and 34 Foot Pounds, but no info on penetration at le.atk.com
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    Doc has tested those, the results are very similar, as one might expect due to the velocity being close.

    I tend to prefer +p in most 9mms most of the time because I think it helps insure the gun cycles when conditions aren't "good day at the range" quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by md8232 View Post
    Is there a reason to prefer the P9HST4 over the P9HST2?
    50 FPS more at the muzzle and 34 Foot Pounds, but no info on penetration at le.atk.com
    9mm 147 gr HST (P9HST2) at 1014 f/s:
    BG: Pen = 12.2", Ave RD = 0.63", Ave RL = 0.39", Ave RW = 147.5 gr
    4LD: Pen = 15.4", Ave RD = 0.53", Ave RL = 0.50", Ave RW = 147.2 gr
    AG: Pen = 13.0", Ave RD = 0.50", Ave RL = 0.59", Ave RW = 143.6 gr

    9 mm 147 gr +P HST (P9HST4) at 1069 fps:
    BG: Pen = 14.4, RD = 0.64, RL = 0.41, RW = 147.5
    4LD: Pen = 16.3, RD = 0.59, RL = 0.43, RW = 147.8

    No autoglass test for the +P, but as you can see you get a little more penetration ability from the +P along with slightly better expansion.

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