JRC's Appendix Holster

I currently use a CCC Shaggy for my Gen4 19, but I really wanted to try something in leather, so I bought an AIWB-CDA from JRC.

I had him duplicate the ride height of the Shaggy, and after some discussion, a chicago screw attachment for the loop. That should allow me to tune the ride height, in case it's not quite right, and use different width loops for belt changes.

I hope to have a review after I put it through some range sessions, and a match or two.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-j...0/IMG_8750.jpg

Awesome.

Whats the circular tab of leather over the bottom of the trigger guard?

It's a wedge that helps push the butt of the gun in to your body.

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Originally Posted by TGS

Awesome.

Whats the circular tab of leather over the bottom of the trigger guard?

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As JV said, it is an extra wedge to help push the butt of the gun in tighter to the body. It is removable. The welt under the wedge has 5 thickness of leather, with the middle one being wedge shaped. This makes the holster more adaptable to a particular individuals needs.

Looks good. I'm looking forward to the review

That looks very nice. I like the idea of the removable leather wedge. I imagine that would allow the user to adapt the holster to their liking.

I got to check out TG's JRC holster on Friday. The build quality looked outstanding. I didn't try it, but it the design looked pretty good and with some minor tweaks it could be good appendix holster.

JV -- Did you consider having the holster made with less material under the muzzle? There is a pic on JRC's website of an AIWB holster for an M&P that seems like it would be much more comfortable to me.

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JV -- Did you consider having the holster made with less material under the muzzle? There is a pic on JRC's website of an AIWB holster for an M&P that seems like it would be much more comfortable to me.

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I had it made for a 19, and there is enough material to work with a 17. The 17 fits pretty well, and I like the idea of being able to use it if I go back.

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I had it made for a 19, and there is enough material to work with a 17. The 17 fits pretty well, and I like the idea of being able to use it if I go back.

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Sorry, I meant the material that is under the rail/dustcover area. If you look at the pic I linked to, there is much less material there on that holster.

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Sorry, I meant the material that is under the rail/dustcover area. If you look at the pic I linked to, there is much less material there on that holster.

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Oh, I did not consider that. Wearing it at 1 o'clock, I don't notice it. Perhaps I'll notice when the ride height drops that last .5"...

You're welcome to give mine a whirl. I should have the new loop for my Friday range session.

The picture of the AIWB with the reduced area under the dust cover was on spec to a customers request. Every holster I do is custom to order, so there will be some variations. I can do what ever a particular customer needs if I have a clear understanding of what they want.

JV any updates?

I was looking at his holsters and was thinking of trying one out. How well does it conceal compared to the shaggy? I would presume that it would print a little more but be a little more comfortable.

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Originally Posted by Kevin P

JV any updates?

I was looking at his holsters and was thinking of trying one out. How well does it conceal compared to the shaggy? I would presume that it would print a little more but be a little more comfortable.

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Good so far. After tomorrow's range trip, I plan to post up my thoughts. I planned to do it this weekend, but family stuff took a higher priority.

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After tomorrow's range trip

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Which might not happen! I opted to write down my thoughts now, rather than make you guys wait until my schedule clears up. Standby.

I don't normally do gear reviews, or AARs for that matter, but I wanted to write down my thoughts about this holster.

After 1000 rounds and about 500 presentations - I might prefer this over my Shaggy! That's a bold statement from me because I consider the Shaggy to be *almost* perfect.

When I initially received this holster, I had mixed emotions. The leather work was clearly fantastic, but the ride height was way too high. With a Glock and a 1.5" belt, when the bottom of the belt lines up with the forward edge of the trigger guard - the ride height will be pretty good.

Here's a pic of how it arrived:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...sKHk/s576/.jpg

I fired off an email to JR mentioning the ride height problem, and he was very quick to reply and was anxious to resolve the issue. We exchanged more than a few emails and talked on the phone a good bit. In the end, we have a great fix. He built a new loop that sits lower and is adjustable!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-i...0/IMG_8754.jpg

With the loop lifted up, here is a picture of the adjustment holes:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S...0/IMG_8753.jpg

With the belt loop issue resolved, I focused on the butt tuck adjustment. In the first picture, you'll notice there is a removable disc near the trigger guard. It's supposed to contact the belt pushing the grip in to the body. It worked pretty well with a leather belt, but because of the stiffness of the Wilderness belt (5 Stitch), mine didn't make contact. The fix was very easy since it's adjustable, I just added another disc. That's the beauty of this new loop AND the adjustable disc system. You can customize the ride height and grip/butt tuck. I suspect this will fill a big void in the market.

I have no printing problems with this setup. But, I can see where it might print for some people that have more girth. To fix that, a lower profile belt loop would help a good bit. The good news is that one is in the works; it's a Kydex reinforced leather loop. Once that loop is finished, I think he'll have a real money maker. After all, it's a high quality AIWB holster that's adjustable for ride height and grip tuck.

Overall, I'm quite pleased with it and wouldn't hesitate to buy another. To be honest, I wish I had one for a Glock 34!!

Thanks for your evaluation of this holster JV. It's great to see another leather option out there!

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Thanks for sharing the review

Can you please post a good picture of the back side of this holster? The part that faces your body.

Great info....! And the adjustable-height belt loop with stiffener would be the shizzle.
I have a similar leather loop holster that I would like to be stiffer.

Thanks.!
Edit: Oops.. forget that photo... I see it in the original post now.

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And the adjustable-height belt loop with stiffener would be the shizzle.

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Just to clarify: I find the current adjustable leather loop to be sufficiently stiff. The issue is there are 3 pieces of thick leather between the back of the belt and the holster body. While it's not a problem for me, it might be too thick for some people. I don't think it protrudes any more than a Shaggy, but the leather loop is about .25" longer (going toward the sights), which can print. To make it smaller he will have to use something other than leather to offer rigidity, in this case, he's looking at Kydex.

Even without the smaller loop, this holster is great fit for me. If the smaller loop makes it conceal better for a wider range of people - awesome. I'd certainly like to try the new loop. Normally, I'd be worried about it making the grip print more, but because the inward angle of the grip is adjustable via the disc - I think/hope it'll be a non issue.

JV, Thanks for the nice review of the CDA holster. I should have something worked up on the belt loop in short order for those that need a slightly thinner option.

Thanks JV for the update and review.

The holster looks great, quick question for anyone or for JRCHolsters. How are the screws mounted on the inside of the leather? Just wondering if there is a chance were the gun will be pressed up against or rub on the backs of the screws?

Thanks

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How are the screws mounted on the inside of the leather?

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Recessed Chicago screw, the female portion is in the holster shell.

It shouldn't touch the gun and there is plenty of space.

Ok cool, thanks JV

Nice write up on the holster. Here's a link to a post showing the new and updated holster along with pictures. http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.p...ll=1#post52577

Thanks, I saw that. I'm glad to see it's becoming even more adjustable.
I have one of the new loops, I really like the design. The new loop width should help with printing.

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Thanks, I saw that. I'm glad to see it's becoming even more adjustable.
I have one of the new loops, I really like the design.

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Has it replaced your Shaggy?

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Has it replaced your Shaggy?

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After this last match, I'm officially switching to a Sig. I'm using a homemade holster right now, the one I made for my P30.

I've been in contact with JRC to get a new holster. I just can't decide if it'll be for my 226 or 229, they could share the same holster if it was kydex, but the width is different enough I'm concerned about it with leather.

The other night at the range, LittleLebowski almost walked off with my JRC holster. He seemed pretty keen on it. Since he's still shooting a 19, he's going to run it.

The new low profile loop, and other recent tweaks are listed here:
http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.p...ll=1#post53962

Excellent holster! I finally found an AIWB holster that fully conceals a full-size 1911.

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The other night at the range, LittleLebowski almost walked off with my JRC holster. He seemed pretty keen on it. Since he's still shooting a 19, he's going to run it.

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I am very happy with it to be sure. My daily carry holster and my first quality leather holster.

Hey JR

I'm checking to see what the consensus is regarding any noticeable comfort issues between the regular version and the slim version of your aiwb holster.

Also checking to see if the holster can be made to accommodate a Glock 17 with a RMR mounted just forward of the rear sight?

Great looking holsters, so keep up the good work.

All the best

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Hey JR

I'm checking to see what the consensus is regarding any noticeable comfort issues between the regular version and the slim version of your aiwb holster.

Also checking to see if the holster can be made to accommodate a Glock 17 with a RMR mounted just forward of the rear sight?

Great looking holsters, so keep up the good work.

All the best

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I really haven't gotten a huge consensus either way. I think the slim version is going to work better for people who wear really low cut pants or wear closer towards the front of the hip.

As for the RMR, as long as I know the dimensions it takes up, forward of the front sight, I can accommodate the cut to be sure it clears the leather.
Hope this helps.

After one of my typical bouts of waking up at 3-4am and not being able to sleep, I started thinking about some of the various belt loop pros and cons of the AIWB-CDA. It seems that no matter what I make, there is always someone who it is not going to work for. What would be the slimmest and most rigid loop that would not shift around, print much and hide well, especially in a tuckable unit.
I am making a belt for one of the guys on the forum that has a velcro backing and the two thoughts crossed and the light bulb went on.
http://jrcholsters.com/images/storie...wb/velcro1.jpg
http://jrcholsters.com/images/storie...wb/velcro2.jpg
http://jrcholsters.com/images/storie...wb/velcro3.jpg
http://jrcholsters.com/images/storie...wb/velcro4.jpg

The velcro is industrial mushroom hook style for a heavy duty grip. The width is a full 2 inches with wrench holes drilled through. Any belt would be able to be easily modified to take this. I am going to wear this everyday for a couple of months and practice as much as possible to check for stability and shifting. I have a pretty good feeling this will answer a lot of loop problems that people have. Any thoughts would be appreciated as always.

JR

Your Velcro hook design looks like a winner.

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JR

Your Velcro hook design looks like a winner.

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Thanks. I have been wearing it everyday, all day and it's working great. So far there is absolutely zero shift where it meets up with the belt. Sometimes simple is best.

I recently received one of JR's horsehide holsters and am absolutely in love with it. In addition to all the accolades previously mentioned, I thought I'd throw in a modification I've made to mine. I'm a pretty skinny guy (5'11, 148 lbs) and bulky holsters don't conceal that well. JR made my holster with the thinnest leather that would stay open (i.e. mouth wouldn't collapse) and I rigged up some Pull-the-Dot straps to create a super-slim version of his holster. It uses the kydex mounting plate that mates to the tuckable loop.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3...255B1%255D.JPG

And here is a photo of me with wearing it, with a relatively thin (synthetic material) and slim-fitting polo shirt:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...255B1%255D.JPG

ETA: Holster is for an M&P 9c

What can I say about the offset loop design but freakin' awesome! The offset loop puts the stress over the rear stacked leather which really pulls the butt of the pistol in.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/...la/photo-6.jpg

Here's what you don't see.
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/...la/photo-5.jpg